
Woman falls into 8-meter deep sinkhole in KL, search and body recovery called off
Woman falls into 8-meter deep sinkhole in KL, search and body recovery called off
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Aug 30 2024, 03:25 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(Relaxing work 2 @ Aug 30 2024, 03:25 PM) Very hard to change this habit, parents are no help either cause they themselves also throw rubbishblatantly in front of their child. It's becoming a way of life here in malaysia summore enforcement lacking |
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Aug 30 2024, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(Relaxing work 2 @ Aug 30 2024, 03:25 PM) very hard because typical persons always buang. How to know? After certain event ends, you can see all sampah merata2... and Majlis needs to clear off. So good our Majlis helps to clear off sampah |
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Aug 30 2024, 03:34 PM
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UPDATE: Too risky to continue diving in SAR efforts
PUTRAJAYA: The Fire and Rescue Department (JBPM) has determined that it is too risky to continue using diving methods in the search and rescue (SAR) operation for the Indian national who was swallowed by a sinkhole on Jalan Masjid India in Kuala Lumpur. JBPM director-general Datuk Nor Hisham Mohammad said this decision was made after nearly 30 minutes of diving by two scuba divers at 4am today proved unsuccessful. He identified several risk factors, including strong underground water currents, limited space for rescuers and the presence of debris and hard blockages in the search area. "After tactical discussions and feedback from the two divers who entered earlier today, I concluded that it is too risky to continue the diving efforts and physical search for the victim. "We made several attempts from 5pm yesterday until 1am today to break through the backlog (blockages). However, it was found to be impossible - extremely difficult to break the solidified fats, which are like concrete blocks. Even pulling them with ropes using up to eight people was unsuccessful," he told the media after attending the JBPM monthly assembly on Friday (Aug 30). According to Nor Hisham, the diving method involving a firefighter and a sewer worker familiar with the design of the channels was employed after the water level was reduced using pumps. "We entered about 20 minutes, 18 metres in, and found that there was no space for entry. The space was very narrow, and divers had to lie flat to enter. "At the same time, the water level rose, so we agreed to withdraw the scuba team due to the high risks. That was the decision we made yesterday," he said. Nor Hisham said JBPM also deployed two underwater cameras in the SAR area, and so far, the images captured include fragments of cloth that could not be identified. "However, we cannot say if the pieces of cloth belong to anyone as various items are found in that space," he said. "So, that’s what we found, but I would like to clarify that based on the camera footage, there was no image of a body because the water turbulence was strong," he said. He said JBPM would hold a meeting with the parties involved in the SAR operation at the Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) building this afternoon to determine the direction of the operation, including other methods that can be used to locate the victim, and which roads will continue to be closed. When asked if the rescue team is "at a loss" for methods to search for the victim, he said the existing methods are too risky for the rescuers, and this needs to be weighed against the risks and probabilities. He explained that he was left speechless while observing the SAR activities at 4am today because he was extremely concerned about the safety of the divers, who had to lie flat and crawl through the narrow area. "When we saw the entry point, which was about two feet wide, we were really worried that they might get stuck. There was a 'piston effect' from the water, making it impossible for them to retreat, which is very dangerous," he added. When asked if there is still hope of finding the victim after the SAR operation has entered its eighth day, Nor Hisham said the chances are quite slim. "With the current methods, we feel that the chances are slim unless we have other techniques," he said. On Aug 23, an Indian woman identified as Vijayalaksmi, 48, disappeared after falling into the eight-meter-deep sinkhole while on her way to a nearby temple. The SAR operation was activated on the same day, involving personnel from various security forces and local authorities who employed multiple techniques, including jetting, flushing and water suction to clear the incident site. - Bernama https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...-says-fire-dept This post has been edited by annoymous1234: Aug 30 2024, 03:35 PM |
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Aug 30 2024, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Aug 30 2024, 03:34 PM) UPDATE: Too risky to continue diving in SAR efforts time to seek offer from Singapore?PUTRAJAYA: The Fire and Rescue Department (JBPM) has determined that it is too risky to continue using diving methods in the search and rescue (SAR) operation for the Indian national who was swallowed by a sinkhole on Jalan Masjid India in Kuala Lumpur. JBPM director-general Datuk Nor Hisham Mohammad said this decision was made after nearly 30 minutes of diving by two scuba divers at 4am today proved unsuccessful. He identified several risk factors, including strong underground water currents, limited space for rescuers and the presence of debris and hard blockages in the search area. "After tactical discussions and feedback from the two divers who entered earlier today, I concluded that it is too risky to continue the diving efforts and physical search for the victim. "We made several attempts from 5pm yesterday until 1am today to break through the backlog (blockages). However, it was found to be impossible - extremely difficult to break the solidified fats, which are like concrete blocks. Even pulling them with ropes using up to eight people was unsuccessful," he told the media after attending the JBPM monthly assembly on Friday (Aug 30). According to Nor Hisham, the diving method involving a firefighter and a sewer worker familiar with the design of the channels was employed after the water level was reduced using pumps. "We entered about 20 minutes, 18 metres in, and found that there was no space for entry. The space was very narrow, and divers had to lie flat to enter. "At the same time, the water level rose, so we agreed to withdraw the scuba team due to the high risks. That was the decision we made yesterday," he said. Nor Hisham said JBPM also deployed two underwater cameras in the SAR area, and so far, the images captured include fragments of cloth that could not be identified. "However, we cannot say if the pieces of cloth belong to anyone as various items are found in that space," he said. "So, that’s what we found, but I would like to clarify that based on the camera footage, there was no image of a body because the water turbulence was strong," he said. He said JBPM would hold a meeting with the parties involved in the SAR operation at the Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) building this afternoon to determine the direction of the operation, including other methods that can be used to locate the victim, and which roads will continue to be closed. When asked if the rescue team is "at a loss" for methods to search for the victim, he said the existing methods are too risky for the rescuers, and this needs to be weighed against the risks and probabilities. He explained that he was left speechless while observing the SAR activities at 4am today because he was extremely concerned about the safety of the divers, who had to lie flat and crawl through the narrow area. "When we saw the entry point, which was about two feet wide, we were really worried that they might get stuck. There was a 'piston effect' from the water, making it impossible for them to retreat, which is very dangerous," he added. When asked if there is still hope of finding the victim after the SAR operation has entered its eighth day, Nor Hisham said the chances are quite slim. "With the current methods, we feel that the chances are slim unless we have other techniques," he said. On Aug 23, an Indian woman identified as Vijayalaksmi, 48, disappeared after falling into the eight-meter-deep sinkhole while on her way to a nearby temple. The SAR operation was activated on the same day, involving personnel from various security forces and local authorities who employed multiple techniques, including jetting, flushing and water suction to clear the incident site. - Bernama https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...-says-fire-dept |
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Aug 30 2024, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Aug 30 2024, 03:37 PM) no need lah.why give this learning experience to outsiders to claim. develop our own knowledge worker lah. we can always buy equipment to match what outsiders have, but what we lack is opportunities to learn in live situation. -- kenapa tak bongkat sahaja seluruh dan sepanjang-panjang jalan tu. dah tutup dah pun sebab lhuatir roboh, kan? bongkar with intent to search, later we need to fix anyway. |
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Aug 30 2024, 04:10 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 05:13 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Aug 30 2024, 03:34 PM) UPDATE: Too risky to continue diving in SAR efforts Use the simplified alike 'pipe jacking' method? Have they consulted, explore on this feasibility ?PUTRAJAYA: The Fire and Rescue Department (JBPM) has determined that it is too risky to continue using diving methods in the search and rescue (SAR) operation for the Indian national who was swallowed by a sinkhole on Jalan Masjid India in Kuala Lumpur. JBPM director-general Datuk Nor Hisham Mohammad said this decision was made after nearly 30 minutes of diving by two scuba divers at 4am today proved unsuccessful. He identified several risk factors, including strong underground water currents, limited space for rescuers and the presence of debris and hard blockages in the search area. "After tactical discussions and feedback from the two divers who entered earlier today, I concluded that it is too risky to continue the diving efforts and physical search for the victim. "We made several attempts from 5pm yesterday until 1am today to break through the backlog (blockages). However, it was found to be impossible - extremely difficult to break the solidified fats, which are like concrete blocks. Even pulling them with ropes using up to eight people was unsuccessful," he told the media after attending the JBPM monthly assembly on Friday (Aug 30). According to Nor Hisham, the diving method involving a firefighter and a sewer worker familiar with the design of the channels was employed after the water level was reduced using pumps. "We entered about 20 minutes, 18 metres in, and found that there was no space for entry. The space was very narrow, and divers had to lie flat to enter. "At the same time, the water level rose, so we agreed to withdraw the scuba team due to the high risks. That was the decision we made yesterday," he said. Nor Hisham said JBPM also deployed two underwater cameras in the SAR area, and so far, the images captured include fragments of cloth that could not be identified. "However, we cannot say if the pieces of cloth belong to anyone as various items are found in that space," he said. "So, that’s what we found, but I would like to clarify that based on the camera footage, there was no image of a body because the water turbulence was strong," he said. He said JBPM would hold a meeting with the parties involved in the SAR operation at the Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) building this afternoon to determine the direction of the operation, including other methods that can be used to locate the victim, and which roads will continue to be closed. When asked if the rescue team is "at a loss" for methods to search for the victim, he said the existing methods are too risky for the rescuers, and this needs to be weighed against the risks and probabilities. He explained that he was left speechless while observing the SAR activities at 4am today because he was extremely concerned about the safety of the divers, who had to lie flat and crawl through the narrow area. "When we saw the entry point, which was about two feet wide, we were really worried that they might get stuck. There was a 'piston effect' from the water, making it impossible for them to retreat, which is very dangerous," he added. When asked if there is still hope of finding the victim after the SAR operation has entered its eighth day, Nor Hisham said the chances are quite slim. "With the current methods, we feel that the chances are slim unless we have other techniques," he said. On Aug 23, an Indian woman identified as Vijayalaksmi, 48, disappeared after falling into the eight-meter-deep sinkhole while on her way to a nearby temple. The SAR operation was activated on the same day, involving personnel from various security forces and local authorities who employed multiple techniques, including jetting, flushing and water suction to clear the incident site. - Bernama https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...-says-fire-dept This post has been edited by jojolicia: Aug 30 2024, 05:27 PM |
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Aug 30 2024, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Aug 30 2024, 03:34 PM) When asked if the rescue team is "at a loss" for methods to search for the victim, he said the existing methods are too risky for the rescuers, and this needs to be weighed against the risks and probabilities. Let the IWK people clear the bloackage?They are the ones experienced and knowledgeable in sewer matters? |
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Aug 30 2024, 05:25 PM
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no need find d..
prolly the body also melted or devoured by millions of bacteria down there |
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Aug 30 2024, 07:09 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 07:10 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 07:14 PM
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PETALING JAYA: The search for the Indian national who fell into an 8m-deep sinkhole on Jalan Masjid India, Kuala Lumpur, will be enhanced with the use of a robot later tonight.
A source close to the rescue efforts, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the self-propelled float robot, from China, which is equipped with cameras, could be used to get into tight spaces. We hope the use of the robot would yield results, the source told FMT. The source also said that the robot, which is en route from Guangzhou, would likely be deployed at 9.30pm tonight. It is understood that three engineers from China would be flown to Malaysia to operate the robot. Earlier today, the search and rescue operation, which has entered its eighth day, began using heavy drilling equipment to facilitate access, which has so far been restricted. Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) said the search team needed to drill access points for additional suction pipes provided by Indah Water Konsortium Sdn Bhd to keep water levels as low as possible. Yesterday, it was reported that two fire and rescue department divers descended into the sewer channel at the sinkhole area but resurfaced about half an hour later due to a wall of debris blocking them. In the incident on Aug 23, a tourist from India, Vijayaletchumy, 48, was walking down the street outside the Malayan Mansion when the sinkhole suddenly opened up. |
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Aug 30 2024, 07:17 PM
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I suspect all this flowing water, strong current and turbulence are originating from burst pipes underground and not from natural water flow. smallcrab liked this post
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Aug 30 2024, 07:23 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 07:44 PM
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So apa Kata raja bomoh?
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Aug 30 2024, 07:51 PM
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Did someone promised that the search and recovery ops will not stop until the victim is found? Not sure how much is the cost for this futile effort smallcrab liked this post
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Aug 30 2024, 08:03 PM
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mh370 again
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Aug 30 2024, 08:20 PM
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If there is large debris down there, the victim's body is likely not on the other side of the pipe. Even the divers are struggling to get through, so it's doubtful the body is on the other side. This debris removal seems to be an improvised task, especially since they've opened up a 'Pandora's box' down there.
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