To be specific, K800i. Click on the thumbnail and have a look at the upper right corner to get what I mean by "Dot Dot".

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Is there anything can be done like tweaking the settings etc? Another problem is when I'm taking a picture of my room from outside the room, with flash on. It will be so bright that you can't see anything basically. Will take a demo picture and upload it if necessary.

I'm not posting this in the K800i thread as I believe I will hardly receive any good answers there. People might just have ignore the post, and this might not be the phone problem, but is the way we take the picture, no matter what phone we use.

Any ideas?

it's called NOISE. go google or wiki

noise always appear under low light situation, all the camera in this world got this problem when low light, the camera cant determine which color hence showing some different color from real life.....


the only low noise camera is this world is DSLR or fuji/pana

One experiment for you to do.

1) try get the same model of handphone and snap at exactly the same location.
2) Compare the result with ur current handphone.
3) If the result(s) are the same, then nothing wrong with ur phone.
4) If results differ, try checking the settings of the two phones. Follow the setting that produces greater output.
5) If after u changed the setting of ur phone, and still not satisfy, check the firmware version. Update if necessary.
6) But...if after updating the firmware, and still not satisfy, it's time for the phone to go to "clinic".

This post has been edited by dgtel2: Nov 4 2007, 07:41 AM

all i can say is normal...........

remember this 3.2megapix is already good, go compare with nokia..... n80 or n73

u can reduce noise using photoshop software...

lolz...that RGB dots are called noise...
for a k800i i believe the picture quality shouldnt be that bad..maybe try taking pictures using your friends k800 and see if its the same...

You could also take pictures with less DPI, such as 800 x 600 considered good already. Taking big pictures are just waste of space and off-screen..

What are you trying to compare?

compare with nokia 3.2 megapixel ......

under low light condition, ask ts to snap see which one got more dot

it look greenish on the top right.....is the ccd failing?

LOL? is k800 using ccd?

K800i using CMOS sensor.
Only S700i using CCD sensor if I'm not mistaken.

higher resolution means you get more space to crop the picture out and more details...

Basically it's hard for me to get another camera phone for demo. I'm the only one owning a camera phone in my house for the moment, so can't even test with even camera phones with different megapixels. By the way, if it is caused by low lighting, I capture the same location with flash now, and it is even worse. An example below:



The noise are still there, but it seems like there is a layer of smoke covering it. Hmm

That sounds creppy....

ok bro listen, don use the flash the result will still be the same......

turn on the light of ur house (bright) or go outdoor take a pic tml....

no point using flash as the flash isnt strong to cover far distance.....

first pic: low lighting condition causing the noise.

second pic: the smokey over upper right corner might due to the over exposure or reflection of bright item. i notice there is a bright white item on right bottom (the monitor), because the whole area is dark, the camera automatically increase its exposure value, shutter time whatever it is to compensate low light, then when the flash fired up, the reflection from the bright item + over exposure from that area, contributed to the smokey bright on upper right corner.

basically nothing much you can do, indoor shot is not so easy to master for a good quality picture.

from your first picture, why it is so bad? here is one more factor, the dark background (ceiling) should need higher exposure or shutter time (whatever it is again to increase amount of light into the camera), but then the monitor is so bright that the camera thought the lighting is enough, hence lowering down those setting again. therefore, finally, you have a over exposed (bright) for area with lighting or too dark (high noise) for low lighting (dark) area. got my point?

practice, experience and skill is essential. take time to learn. try to avoid capturing picture with dark something and bright something in a same picture. e.g. avoid the monitor for the dark ceiling shot. focus on what object you want to take. practice makes perfect.

apart of that, it is just a camera phone that you cant expect much. and make sure you phone have the latest firmware or not having any faulty hardware.

he need to set the focus to SPOT......to avoid being affected by the monitor

in k800 there isnt a function to set shutter time lol......

even some digicam cannot do unless its a prosumer or compact cam with extra manual features like setting the iso, aperture, shutter time etc....


a long way to go to master photography

when did i said you can set it manually by yourself. the camera itself will detect the setting (aperture etc) itself. therefore i said try to avoid to cramp bright and dark object into the same picture lol....

This post has been edited by youngkies: Nov 4 2007, 08:49 PM