To be specific, K800i. Click on the thumbnail and have a look at the upper right corner to get what I mean by "Dot Dot".

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Is there anything can be done like tweaking the settings etc? Another problem is when I'm taking a picture of my room from outside the room, with flash on. It will be so bright that you can't see anything basically. Will take a demo picture and upload it if necessary.

I'm not posting this in the K800i thread as I believe I will hardly receive any good answers there. People might just have ignore the post, and this might not be the phone problem, but is the way we take the picture, no matter what phone we use.

Any ideas?

What are you trying to compare?

it look greenish on the top right.....is the ccd failing?

Basically it's hard for me to get another camera phone for demo. I'm the only one owning a camera phone in my house for the moment, so can't even test with even camera phones with different megapixels. By the way, if it is caused by low lighting, I capture the same location with flash now, and it is even worse. An example below:



The noise are still there, but it seems like there is a layer of smoke covering it. Hmm

first pic: low lighting condition causing the noise.

second pic: the smokey over upper right corner might due to the over exposure or reflection of bright item. i notice there is a bright white item on right bottom (the monitor), because the whole area is dark, the camera automatically increase its exposure value, shutter time whatever it is to compensate low light, then when the flash fired up, the reflection from the bright item + over exposure from that area, contributed to the smokey bright on upper right corner.

basically nothing much you can do, indoor shot is not so easy to master for a good quality picture.

from your first picture, why it is so bad? here is one more factor, the dark background (ceiling) should need higher exposure or shutter time (whatever it is again to increase amount of light into the camera), but then the monitor is so bright that the camera thought the lighting is enough, hence lowering down those setting again. therefore, finally, you have a over exposed (bright) for area with lighting or too dark (high noise) for low lighting (dark) area. got my point?

practice, experience and skill is essential. take time to learn. try to avoid capturing picture with dark something and bright something in a same picture. e.g. avoid the monitor for the dark ceiling shot. focus on what object you want to take. practice makes perfect.

apart of that, it is just a camera phone that you cant expect much. and make sure you phone have the latest firmware or not having any faulty hardware.

when did i said you can set it manually by yourself. the camera itself will detect the setting (aperture etc) itself. therefore i said try to avoid to cramp bright and dark object into the same picture lol....

lolz...thats why camera phones cant compete with standalone DC... thats why i get my self a SLR