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post Aug 8 2024, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Aug 8 2024, 01:06 PM)
Where your family go during Ching Ming?
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Visit quietly other times.

Qing ming always packed anyway
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post Aug 8 2024, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(EX Unseen Forces @ Aug 8 2024, 01:06 PM)
Cremation also 5 figures sad.gif
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18 Jan how many figures?

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atook
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what about India funeral? is it expensive to?
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post Aug 8 2024, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 8 2024, 02:07 PM)
To the Muslim cemetery lor

inb4 don't have family

inb4 no relatives
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I’d like that no need to convert lah if got no family.

If nobody claim, your body will be cremated
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post Aug 8 2024, 01:11 PM

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cina dont have free burial land?
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post Aug 8 2024, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 8 2024, 12:20 PM)
is true.

A lot want to seek burial plots.

The other day I attended my friend father funeral, he said the father already paid 80k reserve long time ago for him and wife.
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my friend early 30s already bought funeral plot RM60k 5 years instalment

current life not that good but already planned for death. don't understand him
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post Aug 8 2024, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 8 2024, 12:16 PM)
Wtf

Tame like hell la this comment. I bet many cinas also agree with him

Consider rescinding mods
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Acherly ayam agree, nothing offensive also. Donno why he kena sus.
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post Aug 8 2024, 01:11 PM

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1. simpan duit for coffin - done
2. beli condo for urn - done
3. simpan duit for funeral rites and wake - tengah create tabung

tu lah... hikayat seorang cina zaman moden.
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post Aug 8 2024, 01:12 PM

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It's expensive because it's difficult to get land allocation for non-Muslims. In Melaka, the Catholics and Protestants are expected to share the same area despite being different denominations.

I think most Malays really underestimate how challenging it is for the minorities. Consider these article from 2022 as comparison:

For Malays:
Harga barang naik, meninggal dunia perlu ada RM5,000
https://www.kosmo.com.my/2022/07/01/harga-b...rlu-ada-rm5000/

GEORGE TOWN – Umat Islam yang tidak menyertai khairat kematian perlu menyediakan antara RM2,000 hingga RM5,000 sebagai kos untuk menyempurnakan majlis pengebumian mereka yang semakin meningkat ketika ini. Wang itu termasuk digunakan bagi perbelanjaan majlis tah­lil tiga malam berturut-turut, tempahan makanan dan pembe­lian batu nisan. Selain itu, kos berkenaan juga bagi menampung van jenazah, kelengkapan kapan dan lain-lain.

For Chinese:
https://malaysiagazette.com/2022/06/20/kos-...umian-melonjak/
PULAU PINANG – Kos pengebumian untuk kaum Cina telah melonjak dengan harga keranda sahaja telah meningkat berterusan selama 10 tahun.

Presiden Pertubuhan Istiadat Pengebumian Orang Awam Malaysia, Kong Thian Hau berkata, harga keranda untuk pengebumian cara menanam telah meningkat antara 50 hingga 250 peratus dalam 10 tahun sementara keranda untuk pengebumian pembakaran meningkat antara 30 hingga 150 peratus.

Beliau berkata, harga untuk keranda tradisional yang melibatkan banyak kerja tangan pula boleh mencecah antara RM18,000 hingga RM28,000 sebuah, antaranya kerana semakin kekurangan tenaga mahir untuk menghasilkannya dan banyak masa diperlukan dalam proses pembuatan.

“Kenaikan harga keranda didorong oleh pelbagai faktor termasuk kos bahan mentah, kadar pertukaran, kos buruh, pengangkutan, malahan kesan rantaian daripada perang,” katanya kepada China Press.

Ujarnya, untuk pembakaran, pakej pengebumian dengan membakar yang ditawarkan adalah antara RM10,000 hingga RM30,000 manakala pengebumian tanah pula memerlukan antara RM20,000 hingga RM50,000.
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post Aug 8 2024, 01:13 PM

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poor one just settle in poor way . remember u come with ntg , u go with nothing too .
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post Aug 8 2024, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(bigduck @ Aug 8 2024, 01:11 PM)
cina dont have free burial land?
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Aug 8 2024, 01:12 PM)
It's expensive because it's difficult to get land allocation for non-Muslims. In Melaka, the Catholics and Protestants are expected to share the same area despite being different denominations.

I think most Malays really underestimate how challenging it is for the minorities. Consider these article from 2022 as comparison:

For Malays:
Harga barang naik, meninggal dunia perlu ada RM5,000
https://www.kosmo.com.my/2022/07/01/harga-b...rlu-ada-rm5000/

GEORGE TOWN – Umat Islam yang tidak menyertai khairat kematian perlu menyediakan antara RM2,000 hingga RM5,000 sebagai kos untuk menyempurnakan majlis pengebumian mereka yang semakin meningkat ketika ini. Wang itu termasuk digunakan bagi perbelanjaan majlis tah­lil tiga malam berturut-turut, tempahan makanan dan pembe­lian batu nisan. Selain itu, kos berkenaan juga bagi menampung van jenazah, kelengkapan kapan dan lain-lain.

For Chinese:
https://malaysiagazette.com/2022/06/20/kos-...umian-melonjak/
PULAU PINANG – Kos pengebumian untuk kaum Cina telah melonjak dengan harga keranda sahaja telah meningkat berterusan selama 10 tahun.

Presiden Pertubuhan Istiadat Pengebumian Orang Awam Malaysia, Kong Thian Hau berkata, harga keranda untuk pengebumian cara menanam telah meningkat antara 50 hingga 250 peratus dalam 10 tahun sementara keranda untuk pengebumian pembakaran meningkat antara 30 hingga 150 peratus.

Beliau berkata, harga untuk keranda tradisional yang melibatkan banyak kerja tangan pula boleh mencecah antara RM18,000 hingga RM28,000 sebuah, antaranya kerana semakin kekurangan tenaga mahir untuk menghasilkannya dan banyak masa diperlukan dalam proses pembuatan.

“Kenaikan harga keranda didorong oleh pelbagai faktor termasuk kos bahan mentah, kadar pertukaran, kos buruh, pengangkutan, malahan kesan rantaian daripada perang,” katanya kepada China Press.

Ujarnya, untuk pembakaran, pakej pengebumian dengan membakar yang ditawarkan adalah antara RM10,000 hingga RM30,000 manakala pengebumian tanah pula memerlukan antara RM20,000 hingga RM50,000.
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post Aug 8 2024, 01:14 PM

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how about sea burial like Osama Bin Laden?
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 8 2024, 12:16 PM)
Cremate and throw into the sea. Cheapest.
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if law permitted i think i will ask my family to bakar kat padang aje
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Aug 8 2024, 01:12 PM)
It's expensive because it's difficult to get land allocation for non-Muslims. In Melaka, the Catholics and Protestants are expected to share the same area despite being different denominations.

I think most Malays really underestimate how challenging it is for the minorities. Consider these article from 2022 as comparison:

For Malays:
Harga barang naik, meninggal dunia perlu ada RM5,000
https://www.kosmo.com.my/2022/07/01/harga-b...rlu-ada-rm5000/

GEORGE TOWN – Umat Islam yang tidak menyertai khairat kematian perlu menyediakan antara RM2,000 hingga RM5,000 sebagai kos untuk menyempurnakan majlis pengebumian mereka yang semakin meningkat ketika ini. Wang itu termasuk digunakan bagi perbelanjaan majlis tah­lil tiga malam berturut-turut, tempahan makanan dan pembe­lian batu nisan. Selain itu, kos berkenaan juga bagi menampung van jenazah, kelengkapan kapan dan lain-lain.

For Chinese:
https://malaysiagazette.com/2022/06/20/kos-...umian-melonjak/
PULAU PINANG – Kos pengebumian untuk kaum Cina telah melonjak dengan harga keranda sahaja telah meningkat berterusan selama 10 tahun.

Presiden Pertubuhan Istiadat Pengebumian Orang Awam Malaysia, Kong Thian Hau berkata, harga keranda untuk pengebumian cara menanam telah meningkat antara 50 hingga 250 peratus dalam 10 tahun sementara keranda untuk pengebumian pembakaran meningkat antara 30 hingga 150 peratus.

Beliau berkata, harga untuk keranda tradisional yang melibatkan banyak kerja tangan pula boleh mencecah antara RM18,000 hingga RM28,000 sebuah, antaranya kerana semakin kekurangan tenaga mahir untuk menghasilkannya dan banyak masa diperlukan dalam proses pembuatan.

“Kenaikan harga keranda didorong oleh pelbagai faktor termasuk kos bahan mentah, kadar pertukaran, kos buruh, pengangkutan, malahan kesan rantaian daripada perang,” katanya kepada China Press.

Ujarnya, untuk pembakaran, pakej pengebumian dengan membakar yang ditawarkan adalah antara RM10,000 hingga RM30,000 manakala pengebumian tanah pula memerlukan antara RM20,000 hingga RM50,000.
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post Aug 8 2024, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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lol sus edy
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Aug 8 2024, 01:08 PM)
18 Jan how many figures?
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QUOTE(Gratitude2022 @ Aug 8 2024, 01:11 PM)
Acherly ayam agree, nothing offensive also. Donno why he kena sus.
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u have to thank PN/Pas for constantly attacking type c to get votes
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QUOTE(titanz @ Aug 8 2024, 01:14 PM)
how about sea burial like Osama Bin Laden?
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Most of us prefer not to be on the USA's Most Wanted Terrorist list and be taken out by US Special Forces just so we can get a FOC sea burial
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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 8 2024, 11:53 AM)
Making early final arrangements
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Last stop: Some of the coffin shops and funeral parlours found on Jalan Masjid, Ipoh. — RONNIE CHIN/The Star

PETALING JAYA: Rising costs and limited options are driving more Malaysians to plan their final arrangements carefully, such as securing affordable burial plots or columbarium niches in advance, say industry players.

They said this allows individuals to plan the payment of their final arrangements, providing peace of mind as well as financial security for themselves and their loved ones.

Malaysia Funeral Public Association secretary-general Nick Chow said rising costs have made pre-planning a more practical and accepted practice.

“The price surge is not isolated to a single aspect, but a domino effect touching every part of the industry,” he said in an interview.

For example, he said coffins for burial have seen a 50% to 250% increase in the past 10 years, while cremation coffins have risen by 30% to 150%.

“Many essential funeral items have also gone up by 20% to 250%,” said Chow, who estimated a standard cremation funeral package costs between RM10,000 and RM30,000, with a burial package ranging from RM20,000 to RM50,000.

“The cost of a basic burial plot can range from RM40,000 to RM80,000 alone, before adding the funeral package.”


The director of Wan World Funeral Services said pre-owning packages for burial plots and columbarium niches are gaining popularity as people seek to secure affordable final resting places.

“This trend is gaining traction due to the rising cost of living and materials.

“Being prepared allows them to not be burdened by the financial strain of final arrangements and ensures that one’s wishes are heeded, rather than leaving that responsibility to grieving family members,” he said.

As the population ages and costs continue to rise, Chow says he expects the demand for these services to grow.

“Securing a final resting place in advance allows individuals to lock in current pricing and avoid future increases, providing peace of mind,” he said, adding that various reasons were behind the general price increase for funeral services, regardless of religious beliefs.

He noted that the recent diesel subsidy rationalisation has also led to higher transportation costs, creating a knock-on effect that has impacted the entire supply chain and raised prices across the board.

However, Chow said that the poor and underprivileged can always reach out to the association for assistance as it has been offering coffin donations and funeral services for the needy.

Perak-based Fook Loke Sau Casket Centre director Thung Siew Ching also cited increased costs in all essential funeral services, such as transportation, funeral staff, funeral parlour rental, cremation and burial sites.

“Other essential funeral items such as flowers, decorations, paper paraphernalia, burial clothes, incense and candles have also increased in price by 10% to 20%.

“This includes the coffin, which is the most important for any funeral, where prices have also gone up by at least 20%,” she said.

To alleviate families’ burdens and concerns, Thung said her company remains committed to support those facing financial constraints – to ensure that everyone has access to dignified final arrangements.

“We understand (times are) hard (so) we don’t simply raise prices.

“Also, any fixed-price package may not address what the family needs or match what they want.

“It’s important to provide affordable options and customised services to meet the diverse needs of the community,” she said.

Thung said the most basic cremation coffin that costs several hundred ringgit is still available, and is suitable for charity or those who need fast cremation.

“A funeral may cost from as low as RM3,000 to more than RM200,000.

“It only makes sense when providers respond by offering more flexible options and customisable packages – to cater to the diverse needs of consumers seeking to secure their final resting places in a cost-effective and meaningful way,” she said.

A casket and funeral service provider in Melaka who only wanted to be known as Heng said personalised packages with flexible payment plans will become increasingly popular in addressing evolving needs.

“People are more accepting of the notion of planning their final arrangements.

“This shift in mindset reflects a growing desire for control, financial security and the ability to alleviate the burden on loved ones during a difficult time,” he said.

Heng added that those who plan ahead were able to pay for their burial plot by installments, locking in the current price and lessening unexpected costs for their family.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...al-arrangements
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QUOTE(atook @ Aug 8 2024, 01:09 PM)
what about India funeral? is it expensive to?
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Estimating 7k-20k in Butterworth and Penang Island.

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