I saw a a ibanez RG series selling for Rm590 in a complex, i'm not sure what's the exact model name, but from site i guess it's Ibanez RG1820X, from the price i know it's China made & the package is with soft bag, strings & picks, my question is, does it worth for a beginner like me?what's the different from Indon made & china made in sense of quality/sound?

sound = ??
Quality= ??
Worth = ??

I'm not sure if that could be a genuine Ibanez. Usually the 4 digit models are the prestige models and usually goes for Rm3k and up. And i'm also not sure if Ibanez actually has any models that are made in China. AFAIk, only Japan, Korea and Indonesia.

You could be looking at some of the China pirated ibanez models, or Chibanez as some of the ppl call it

LOL at 'Chibanez'!!

For that price it's too good to be true man.. love NIN btw. Love your art too, but why oh so depressing..

This post has been edited by quarantined: Nov 3 2007, 05:33 PM

Nope, ibanez are also made in china

well, i saw it in 2 stores which is Harmony (uptown) & yamaha music (IoI), at the back of the neck stated clearly Made In China & the brand is Ibanez not Chibanez or anything, not sure whether it's genuine cos didnt ask the boss there & i dont know the existance of Chibanez too. btw whats the diff from other brand like Epiphone, between China & Korea have a big diff in price, in a sense of quality what's the diff?

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Added on November 3, 2007, 5:49 pmyo, thanks man, am i depressed?

This post has been edited by dennishew2004: Nov 3 2007, 05:49 PM

rg1820x for RM590? err..... fake 1? or u made a mistake? or extremely desperate seller? hah.

dude, ask the salesperson there lah what model it is.
Probably the Ibanez starter pack or something.

yeah, i think i mistaken some other model, i think it's the starter model,
will let u guys know.

if you say it's a whole package with bags and everything, then it should be the jump start pack from ibanez

the RG1570X is a prestige with piezo built in it...so it won't go lower than rm3K for a new one

This post has been edited by asura_86: Nov 3 2007, 11:17 PM

is it a worth buying from Jump Start Pack or a China made Ibanez guitar?

Really? Which models?

Sorry for the misinformation, Chibanez I just a nickname guitarists give to China made Ibanez fakes. You can see some of them here ibanezrules

Usually the fakes have impossible body colour/hardware colour/inlay combination which is not official from Ibanez. I'm not sure what guitar is that you are looking at, but it better to be cautious esp since the price is quite ridiculous. There is a saying, "if something is too good to be true, it probably is "

But anyways, there are some quality difference between same brand instruments that are made in different countries ie. Japan, Korea, Indo or China. Usually due to manufacturing costs the lower end models will be manufactured from the cheaper countries while the high end ones will be from Japan or the US. So due to the fact that countries like Korea and China make lower end guitar, ppl tend to associate that most instruments from there are inferior. Lower end guitars usually trade off quality (lower hardware, wood, inlays) for cost but they can be sufficient depending on your budget and use. For many hobbyist like myself, getting a full blown Japan model would really be ideal, but usually the cost would be way beyond our budget. Work out your budget and then choose the guitar model that would be suitable for you, and you can always ask a friend who has been playing for a while to give you some inputs too. And of course, you have this thread here for advise too.

This post has been edited by supercolossal: Nov 4 2007, 09:46 PM

i bet ongpohheng was talking about the gio series

Yup, lower-end series from Ibanez are produce in China, indon etc etc.
only higher ends guitar are produce in korea or usa

are there ibanez guitars made in the US?
I only know that the highest end ones are made in Japan.

i guess so.
cause last time i went to ibanez website to check out some GENG guitars and i think i saw it written there.
but i cant comfirm that la. wasnt paying much attention to where it was manufacture, more of droling over the cool guitar

supercolossal, thanks alot for the detail...my friends advise me not to buy the China made guitar, but they can't give me a certain reason of why China made is bad for beginner/budget, actually i'm planning for China made guitar for beginning then later on i'll buy a high end guitar.

does anybody have experienced of Squire Fender of Telecaster?Bently selling it of Rm580.

i recomended Ibanez Gio series. it's perfect for metal music for begginners like me.( u r playing metal right?)

anyway, i saw somebody selling ibanez gio for rm680 in the trAde zone area.

No prob, it's always difficult to buy that first axe, but it'll be a lot easier with some advise.

for a beginner...get a Samick...you can find some nice ones on ebay.com.my...

all guitars around RM500 are made in china...you cannot avoid that...

i've tried samick at sg.wang, its not that bad man ..seriously and the price are affordable too

Got... the LACS (L.A. Custom Shop). But they only build for endorsees... Only way to get one without getting an endorsement deal is to buy 2nd hand off the market... but 2nd hand prices can probably challenge 1st hand price of the J.custom...

is Ibanez Gio can compete with SX strat in sound quality??

i donno bout SX strats quality la, but if u are into distortion and metal, i say this guitar not bad,and the design is awesome. cause i just use it for stage-performance last 2 week ago.
here is a review of the guitar
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NZLY4XP9i4A

i think somebody is selling it cheap at lowyat tradezone(bout 700 i guess)



edit: if im not wrong,my first guitar was SX strats=.= and i hate it, i trade it for a ibanez gio.but thats my opinion thou. u might hate the ibanez gio.

This post has been edited by ongpohheng: Nov 5 2007, 11:18 AM

What's your budget ?

Yes. I think that's the most important question!

If it's around RM1k, you'd probably be able to scout around a few deals for 2nd-hand guitars that are not MIC...

Actually SX vs Gio, I think you'd be better of going for a SX, provided that you find one that is decent. The thing about Gio is that the QC is pretty consistent, the problem is that the level of quality isn't very high at all!

IIRC, there are some SXs which have quite decent build quality, but you'll have to test it out first...

yup, agreed.
but is the choice of TS. so people(like me) find ibanez gio more appealing. and ibanez gio both has diffrent pickup. sx is a sigle-coil( if im not wrong).
but its all judge by TS budjet.

my budget for guitar below RM700, the look of Ibanez gio really attracts me, esply i love metal music, but i'm not sure the quality..

Samick TR1 - RM660

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This post has been edited by soraxroxas: May 7 2016, 02:53 AM

Nice. Same one I recommended for my nephews.....

errr... just to ask.. are all DX version of ibanez have bound neck?

Just one note of caution, if u plan to do crazy dive bombs and abuse ur whammy, don't expect it to stay in tune...

RG1820X at that price?Check the model properly

wow...thanks bro, even show me ya pics, yea i know Ibanez really attracts me & i saw in trade zone selling only rm680, is yours China made also??guess wont be big diff if that so, huh?

i guess all ibanez gio are made in china >..< cause ibanez gio are lower end model from ibanez

i think they're made in indonesia now...new RG's are made in indonesia

sorry bro, i've checked China made is rm580 & Indon made is RM1150 in IOI mall
not sure is the same model...

This post has been edited by dennishew2004: Nov 6 2007, 11:08 PM

i.e. fake?

no lah.. maybe one is MICh GIO and the other one is MIId RG

This post has been edited by neotoxin: Nov 7 2007, 07:33 AM

yea, agree...

GIO also got alot of model too>..<
Some of the GIO is old model. some is new.
LAst time i saw 1 model red color but difffrent neck >..<

yea...but i still prefer your model, with fret's neck marking like thunders..

then get it
u already loves the design of it, u already in love in it, ur mind set onto it, why not grab it on ur nearest store??

hahah.. yea... and make a gio club here at LYN. I'll be joining you all when my grg270 project finish...

oooooo, a new kind of gio??? looks the same except it doesnt have the thunder-kind neck

No lah.. Its an old gio bought cheap from fellow forummer here, and no, it doesnt have thunder-like neck (actually this thing called 'sharktooth inlay' )., it has dot inlay instead. I'm trying to get the electronic working (still looking for 500k pot with longer threaded collar) and then to get the mechanical parts working (fitting a new trem - Lo-TRSII, getting string clamp, string retainer). Finally, maybe a repaint.. hmm.. still in dilemma what color scheme should i choose

wow......so much work........... msut cost alot. why dont u just buy a new guitar istead??

i guess he just wants to have a 'project' guitar.
Dude, don't just go for plain colours la, airbrush ur gf pic or something.

Not so much cost la.. A new guitar of the same model would cost 700++. That one bought at 250. I have a spare Lo-TRSII trem (previously planned to be swapped with licensed floyd rose on my other guitar but realized it had different width and radius). Pots should be cheap. All other missing part already got it. Just a few more tweaking and it done!

I've been thinking of either VH1 scheme or ibanez DY..

An irbrush? Should I want an airbrush, its not for this guitar.. my other guitar maybe

airbrush??u got ya design?what pic u planning?
one more Question, i love metal song(MM, APC) & sometime play sentimental song(the Calling, Vertical horizon), if Ibanez Gio VS Squire Tele,
which is suitable?

Definitely the Ibanez..... Mainly because the Tele has a more twangish sound..... and also the Ibanez uses humbuckers which is more suited for the metal tone you want. And yes........ even sentimental songs you mentioned above would sound better with the humbuckers.

maybe no airbrush lah.. need to fork a lot of money for that alone. .. and I'll cry if the guitar suddenly knock to something and ruin the airbrush.. hahha.. better stay low with el-cheapo aerosol paint. If want background pic, just stick a sticker there and spray some lacquer, or cut my house curtain, stick it up on the body, and lacquer.. That a floral pattern (JEM77FP)

I can't give you advice on what guitar that will suit you as I havent tried both guitar. I just recently got this GIO. When I first got it, its not really in a fully working condition. I dont even know how gio plays like. How it sounds... And I'm not a tele fan either... I'm more into strat and super start guitar (but also have a lust for xiphos)

This post has been edited by neotoxin: Nov 9 2007, 05:37 PM

or u can smack in a seymour duncan hotrails in the bridge of the tele and u can still play both types of songs.

but what do u mean by VH1 scheme?

This is VH1 (a replica of Eddie Van Halen's black/white guitar)


...for those who might be asking whats an ibanez DY, here it is

is that RG550MXX?

Wah Wah WEE wah! Some SERIOUSLY nice guitars you have there!

Getting SERIOUS gas for an Ibanez S right now!!!!!!

WOW....Class....

might need to correct something here.. NO.. those axes are not mine.. I leeched those pics from internet. What i'm trying to say was, those are color scheme that I want for my project guitar.

Hmm.. wish I own that RG550..sigh

p/s: that pic is the original RG550DY, not reissue/20th anniversary ed.

I am sorry

this pawns the sh*t out of ori RG 550 ...

Ibanez RGR 580 JBB

Mahogany body , Reverse headstock maple fingerboard (you can never find this specs for other ibanez) , made in japan ,edge trem

rare ass jewel blue finish , made for jap domestic market on 2001 only

if you see em ..grab em





This post has been edited by gapnap: Nov 11 2007, 04:51 PM

for once I tot it has an arched top lol.. So little blue burst

and it really bring the feel of Eddie Van Halen...still rmbr he wears those white latex pants just like VH1.

Rare stuff, but I've never liked maple fingerboards, even the 550DY (the 20th/reissue are seriously overpriced too). It's sad to think back that the 5xx series used to be quite affordable and was considered mid-range back in the 80s/90s. But now, they are marketed as the prestige model range which I think is kinda out of most of the hobbyist guitarist's budget. Good instrument, but just too expensive for most people.

As a result we have to compromise and make to with MIK, MIIndo and MIC stuff.

This post has been edited by supercolossal: Nov 11 2007, 11:32 PM

ahh..dont worry RGR 580 JBB was produced in 2001 , right before the prestige era ..

maple fingerboard are the pawners wei ! i think 80% of my guitars are maple fingerboard

actually arch top got what difference in terms or sound?

A fuller bodied sound because the body will actually help to resonate the sound produced by the strings.

hmm...I get your point but then most acoustic guitars should be arched top right? But acoustics are predominantly flat tops
Anyone here care to shed some light?

Hmm.. good point. Let me try to find out
With regards to the similarity between acoustic and archtops, bear in mind that archtops can be played acoustically also

pure human laziness.

archtops are big, especially since most are also arched at the back.
imagine carrying around an archtop to like a campfire? too troublesome right
regular flattops are much smaller and lighter.

there are still a few purely acoustic archtops around tho.