AceCombat reporting in,first unofficial between HD3 series vs 8800GT benchmark is out.

the driver they using is Catalyst 7.11 which is newly developed.

but we can see that this is totally unbelievable,ATi pawned?




this is the graph that taken from nVidia website

nVidia really wanna kill AMD-ATi with this graph,u guys believe the benchmark result?
or if it's true,ATi will give lame excuse :no la,driver problem "

that just 8800gt, how bout new 8800gts, sure ati "makan more asap"....

if i'm not mistaken, thats only a forecast i think...

not sure la,but since from nvidia webby,they sure say their card is good mah,if in ati webby,RV670 sure skyrocketing than 8800GT one

hahaha sales gimmick what.....

Anyone can make graphs without numbers, especially when your rival company is about to come out with a new product.

Though most already give in that RV670 can only compete in price but not performance; I could hardly believe that ATi are not responding to all these rumors.

As an average consumer, I would like to see "leaked" benchmarks this week, and I really hope that "Hey, I got DX10.1 first" won't be the major selling point of the new cards.

i think this is true, if false, i doubt ATI-AMD will sue Nvidia.
woot, 8800GT tech is newer than RV670. and, ATI always lose to Nvidia -.-....
i mean take both flagship cards to compare.

but when go back to AGP time,ATi rocks!!!

muahaha....ya lo...think back 4years before...9800XT @ Rm2500

lame marketing tactics by both companies.

AMD wont sue nVIDIA, just gonna roll out a 'review' saying HD3 series 'rocks'. ambiguous marketing at its best !!!!

100% fake la , i think if the HD3 lose to Gt al, so in smal range . 10-20% maybe . that benchmark.... zzz lol

Rumours has it that ATI's new card will definitedly not top Nvidia's current high-end cards. The 3800 cards will probably be selling at a lower price to compete with Nvidia.

However, percentage doesn't mean a thing. We want absolute numbers. e.g. ATI 30fps, Nvidia 33fps - so nvidia wins by 10%.....

Another thing about DX10.1. Have you guys heard? Apparently, for DX10.1, the AA will be running at 4x. You can't turn it on or off manually. Dunno. That's what I read. Would really kill the fps in lower end systems......

just rumours. YOu can turn it of using driver control panel or in game option

i noticed that those new chips got that 'RV' suffix. usually those are ati midrange tag ....... i suppose.

so,u guys mean,there is moer powerful gc fromATi rather than this two 3850 and 3870? maybe 3890?

The last I heard, you can't. It is NOT an option. However, I'm sure there will be a way around this....

What the?
This is weak!

Why do nvidia have to use this kind of marketing?

No, there is a difference between minimum level of AA support and "always on". Dx10.1 specifies 4xAA support as a minimum requirement. It doesn't have to be on all the time, because that would just be retarded.

This is the norm in the IT industry.... you should see MSI sales kits.. those lagi funny

MSI jangan cakap lah, we all know they paid a premium price to Tom's Hardware.
Every MSI product that is given to Toms Hardware mesti win in their hardware review.

funny answer

is it ah?
the one with gold hammer one right?

Dunno. Hope not. Here's an excerpt :

"What are the changes? DX 10.1's goals are to offer the "complete" DX 10, giving developers better control over image quality and making mandatory some of the things that are optional in DX 10. For example, 32-bit floating point filtering is optional in DX10 (16-bit FP filtering is mandatory), but will be mandatory in DX 10.1. Also, in DX 10, the number of multisample anti-aliasing samples is optional-DX 10.1 will make 4x AA mandatory, and require two specific sample patterns. Graphics cards can offer more sample patterns, and developers can query them in their shaders. Graphics cards that are DX 10.1 compliant will have to offer programmable shader output sample masks and multisample AA depth readback. Game developers will be able to index into cube maps and perform bitwise copies from uncompressed textures to block-compressed texture formats. "

It's just regulating the supported AA modes and sample patterns which is a good thing because right now this is quite fragmented. So what dx10.1 is attempting to do is regulate the output result for AA, and give developers more flexibility in using AA. Not the same as "always on" AA.

Can the graph be trusted? My heart keep telling me to not believe that graph...

I see. Yeah, I thought is was a bit funny to have the AA turn on all the time.

Hehe, now that I read that excerpt again, it makes more sense....

This post has been edited by kmarc: Nov 3 2007, 04:49 PM

Who cares, in about 10 days we'll find out.

well in that 10 days many buyers can be gained. Thus nVidia used their time wisely

Part of me kinda wish that RV670 would be good and put up some fight with current nvidia cards. Because then we stand to benefit from it with low competitive prices.

oh man..it's just RV670 not R670.still have good time to wait

R670 better than RV670?

Really?

How about say... Need For Speed: Pro Street?

R600 already pwns 8800GT here (AA does not have a performance hit on both cards lol)

RV670? Answer is so obvious.

Plus, this is not an nVidia PR slide.



So as it goes, I think the ATI architecture will still have minor to noticeable gains on non TWIMTBP Xbox 360 ports.

This post has been edited by X.E.D: Nov 3 2007, 10:50 PM

looks like ATi driver got big improvement or the game perform well with R600 architecture?