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 First Unofficial Benchmark is out!, Consider biasing to one side

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post Nov 3 2007, 10:55 AM, updated 19y ago


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AceCombat reporting in,first unofficial between HD3 series vs 8800GT benchmark is out.

the driver they using is Catalyst 7.11 which is newly developed.

but we can see that this is totally unbelievable,ATi pawned? laugh.gif

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We already knew RV670 will become HD 3850 and HD 3870. According to some comments, we now fully understand what's the name HD 38X0 stands for:

HD3870(RV670XT):core/memory: 800MHz/2400MHz,512MB GDDR4,suggested retail price: CNY2299(307.5 USD)

HD3850(RV670Pro):core/memory: 700MHz/1800MHz,256MB GDDR3,suggested retail price: CNY1699(227.3 USD)

And the only driver now support RV670 is Catalyst 7.11 which AMD-ATI just hand out to his partners about two weeks ago. According the info we knew earlier, the RV670 have 320Steam processor,256bit memory interface, UVD and PCIe Gen2.

AMD-ATI said when they announce the offical design, partners can begin to sell those unoffical design cards. And an asia graphic card maker Yeston said that they will be the first one to supply unoffical design card.

what's the difference between G92 and RV670? let's see what's in NV's slide pics.
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this is the graph that taken from nVidia website sweat.gif

nVidia really wanna kill AMD-ATi with this graph,u guys believe the benchmark result?
or if it's true,ATi will give lame excuse :no la,driver problem laugh.gif "
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:04 AM

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that just 8800gt, how bout new 8800gts, sure ati "makan more asap"....
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:04 AM

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if i'm not mistaken, thats only a forecast i think...
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:10 AM


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not sure la,but since from nvidia webby,they sure say their card is good mah,if in ati webby,RV670 sure skyrocketing than 8800GT one laugh.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:12 AM

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hahaha sales gimmick what.....
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:46 AM

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Anyone can make graphs without numbers, especially when your rival company is about to come out with a new product.

Though most already give in that RV670 can only compete in price but not performance; I could hardly believe that ATi are not responding to all these rumors.

As an average consumer, I would like to see "leaked" benchmarks this week, and I really hope that "Hey, I got DX10.1 first" won't be the major selling point of the new cards.
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:55 AM

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i think this is true, if false, i doubt ATI-AMD will sue Nvidia.
woot, 8800GT tech is newer than RV670. and, ATI always lose to Nvidia -.-....
i mean take both flagship cards to compare.
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post Nov 3 2007, 12:12 PM


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but when go back to AGP time,ATi rocks!!!
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muahaha....ya lo...think back 4years before...9800XT @ Rm2500 sweat.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 12:21 PM

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lame marketing tactics by both companies.

AMD wont sue nVIDIA, just gonna roll out a 'review' saying HD3 series 'rocks'. ambiguous marketing at its best !!!!
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post Nov 3 2007, 02:31 PM

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100% fake la , i think if the HD3 lose to Gt al, so in smal range . 10-20% maybe . that benchmark.... zzz lol
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post Nov 3 2007, 03:21 PM

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Rumours has it that ATI's new card will definitedly not top Nvidia's current high-end cards. The 3800 cards will probably be selling at a lower price to compete with Nvidia.

However, percentage doesn't mean a thing. We want absolute numbers. e.g. ATI 30fps, Nvidia 33fps - so nvidia wins by 10%..... doh.gif

Another thing about DX10.1. Have you guys heard? Apparently, for DX10.1, the AA will be running at 4x. You can't turn it on or off manually. Dunno. That's what I read. Would really kill the fps in lower end systems...... rclxub.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 3 2007, 03:21 PM)
Rumours has it that ATI's new card will definitedly not top Nvidia's current high-end cards. The 3800 cards will probably be selling at a lower price to compete with Nvidia.

However, percentage doesn't mean a thing. We want absolute numbers. e.g. ATI 30fps, Nvidia 33fps - so nvidia wins by 10%.....  doh.gif

Another thing about DX10.1. Have you guys heard? Apparently, for DX10.1, the AA will be running at 4x. You can't turn it on or off manually. Dunno. That's what I read. Would really kill the fps in lower end systems......  rclxub.gif
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just rumours. YOu can turn it of using driver control panel or in game option
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i noticed that those new chips got that 'RV' suffix. usually those are ati midrange tag ....... i suppose.


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so,u guys mean,there is moer powerful gc fromATi rather than this two 3850 and 3870? maybe 3890? tongue.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Nov 3 2007, 03:29 PM)
just rumours. YOu can turn it of using driver control panel or in game option
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The last I heard, you can't. It is NOT an option. However, I'm sure there will be a way around this....
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post Nov 3 2007, 03:59 PM

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What the?
This is weak!

Why do nvidia have to use this kind of marketing? shakehead.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 3 2007, 02:21 AM)
Rumours has it that ATI's new card will definitedly not top Nvidia's current high-end cards. The 3800 cards will probably be selling at a lower price to compete with Nvidia.

However, percentage doesn't mean a thing. We want absolute numbers. e.g. ATI 30fps, Nvidia 33fps - so nvidia wins by 10%.....  doh.gif

Another thing about DX10.1. Have you guys heard? Apparently, for DX10.1, the AA will be running at 4x. You can't turn it on or off manually. Dunno. That's what I read. Would really kill the fps in lower end systems......  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 3 2007, 02:54 AM)
The last I heard, you can't. It is NOT an option. However, I'm sure there will be a way around this....
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No, there is a difference between minimum level of AA support and "always on". Dx10.1 specifies 4xAA support as a minimum requirement. It doesn't have to be on all the time, because that would just be retarded.
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 3 2007, 03:59 PM)
What the?
This is weak!

Why do nvidia have to use this kind of marketing? shakehead.gif
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This is the norm in the IT industry.... you should see MSI sales kits.. those lagi funny
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 3 2007, 04:18 PM)
This is the norm in the IT industry.... you should see MSI sales kits.. those lagi funny
MSI jangan cakap lah, we all know they paid a premium price to Tom's Hardware.
Every MSI product that is given to Toms Hardware mesti win in their hardware review. laugh.gif
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