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Chef Wan kena game by reno contractor
Chef Wan kena game by reno contractor
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Jul 15 2024, 01:14 AM, updated 2y ago
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People need to realize bad guy exist everywhere regardless of race. AteCerCiter, Zhik, and 23 others liked this post
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jul 15 2024, 01:20 AM) The difference here is, same type condemn same type. If it happens to everyone, no one would talk about it. But a celeb was in it. So people will talk about it. StorMx liked this post
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Jul 15 2024, 01:26 AM
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Jul 15 2024, 01:27 AM
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Oren tipu oren famous
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jul 15 2024, 01:20 AM) Yeah but the post written in such away, "nak tolong melayu" KekWa damnkids01 and kunited liked this post
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Jul 15 2024, 01:38 AM
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Xpe janji type M
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Jul 15 2024, 01:43 AM
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advance 421k is already wrong. even if the reno cost 1m. emburrar, Gon Freaks, and 5 others liked this post
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Jul 15 2024, 01:47 AM
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B40 here. What kind of reno can you expect from a 400k cost? Assuming starting from scratch. This post has been edited by graphidz: Jul 15 2024, 01:48 AM KIT39 liked this post
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Akibat nak tolong secara membuta tuli. Kalau nak tolong, tolonglah tolong mereka yang wajar ditolong saja
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QUOTE(graphidz @ Jul 15 2024, 01:47 AM) RM400K can do quite a lot for renovation in most of regular double storey house around klang valley even today. So long you do not opt for fancy materials and expensive designs. Usually replace all of roofing and ceiling. Change flooring. Erecting/ demolish new rooms and/or lavatory. Change dimensions of gates and even change type of doors. Thats the standard thing. But Chef Wan's house is like a typical own land kampung bangalow lot house. Assuming he is refreshing some parts and changing some parts, RM 400K can also do much excluding furnishing. Kelantan people pay a lot less to rebuild their kampung house with similar dimensions. Few years ago i asked they say back in their hometown can renovate bungalow for RM70K to RM120K. But have to pay cash only. But nowdays every renovation has main problem that is labour. Hard to find workers. Even my neighbour renovation stalled more than 3 months because no workers and just restarted recently. Freshmeat21, damnkids01, and 4 others liked this post
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Jul 15 2024, 02:23 AM
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if not wrong suppose to hire only from https://www.cidb.gov.my/eng/
PETALING JAYA: If a contractor is not listed by the Construction Industry Development Board (CIDB) or not even licensed, be wary – you could get ripped off on your house renovation. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...active-packages This post has been edited by Phoenix_KL: Jul 15 2024, 02:28 AM |
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 15 2024, 02:08 AM) But nowdays every renovation has main problem that is labour. Hard to find workers. Even my neighbour renovation stalled more than 3 months because no workers and just restarted recently. This is quite true. My wife's relative is in renovation industry. Really hard to get labour now. Government regulation also make it challenging in recent years.Plus cost of materials and labour has all went up. |
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any pic..?
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Jul 15 2024, 02:51 AM
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So many scams lately. Very sad state of affairs. march4th liked this post
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Jul 15 2024, 02:58 AM
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Typical reno contractor is like that
Most aim for that 50% to 80% from budget and then left you high and dry |
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Fuh. Trusted the wrong contrsctor jonthebaptist liked this post
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Janji type M .. semua ok.
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BMF strikes
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Kos Melayu memang tinggi sikit, Banyak kat rumah kena makan banding dengan bangsa lain.
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padan muka to bodos with "melayu kena tolong melayu" mentality.. march4th liked this post
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BMF
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BMF FTW
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He knocked down and rebuild ka??? Wat upfront need 400k fuh
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Kalo tak tipu bukan
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Aku rasa bodo jugak la upfront duit mcm tu
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Consequences of supporting BMF....
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Jul 15 2024, 06:57 AM
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To be fair, non also got bad contractors... But when you have chance to serve Cheft Wan, do it nicely, it will be good reference next time.. netmatrix and wawasan2200 liked this post
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My 2 experience with malay vendor was pretty ok. 1. Car died middle of highway because of radiator. Came over slowly drove my car to his workshop 2. Change cat battery. Was in a hurry so he told me to tt him later. It was our first time dealing. I think nothing to do with race. It have everything to do with your mentality. Make your choice logically. This post has been edited by bengang15: Jul 15 2024, 07:03 AM yhtan, MegaCanonF, and 1 other liked this post
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I saw a post yesterday here that a Ktard rebuilt his house only need 300-400k…
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Jul 15 2024, 07:05 AM
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no expose the company name?
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QUOTE(danabu @ Jul 15 2024, 06:57 AM) To be fair, non also got bad contractors... some ppl don't think long term, they just wan short term gainsBut when you have chance to serve Cheft Wan, do it nicely, it will be good reference next time.. like they get a pack of rice and rm10, they will throw away their vote then wonder why 60 years, tak maju maju |
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Bmf all you want But the reason of bmf is by condemning type c or type i Then kena game by own ppl This is why racism is stupid and bound to smack you back in the face Just stick with individual a is bad, not the entire race damnkids01, JeremyLord, and 1 other liked this post
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Jul 15 2024, 07:13 AM
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QUOTE(mayhammer @ Jul 15 2024, 07:13 AM) Bmf all you want that is the narative they were all brainwashed with since youngBut the reason of bmf is by condemning type c or type i Then kena game by own ppl This is why racism is stupid and bound to smack you back in the face Just stick with individual a is bad, not the entire race always being told they are being attacked must plotek agama and bangsa not easy to reverse, as the brainwashing is still happening today |
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BMF is a scam for type M by type M
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Jul 15 2024, 07:24 AM
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Janji 100% hararrarr soilproduck
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Jul 15 2024, 07:36 AM
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My neighbor prefer type M contractor coz their price is cheaper ..
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Jul 15 2024, 07:38 AM
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Cost sudah lari
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No architect?
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Deswai dunwan stupid think that giving anyone business is helping them la, doing them a favor la, giving them a boost la. It's a transaction. You give money and you get something in return. Make wrong choice and you get shit. If you don't want to get shit in the end, then vet thoroughly and choose the vendor carefully. Slowpokeking liked this post
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Niat rasis tidak halal. Tidak berkat. Allah jatuhkan Bala ke atas org rasis seperti Chef Wan
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Kalau tak tipu makan tak kenyang tido tak lena.
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My own experience doing house extension is the boss dont supervise their underling. the bugger jibai mengular all day every day how the fuck the project will siap. duit habis rumah tak siap.
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Abikat BFM la tuuuuuuuu Those who kena scammed because of die die BMF I have zero sympathy for those mofos, tak kisah chef wan ke, don wan ke cawan Serve u mofos right This post has been edited by carloz28: Jul 15 2024, 08:13 AM damnkids01 and march4th liked this post
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xpela, janji scammer M, tlg bangsa kito
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Just guessing, because i'm M, so everything i charge you is to HELP me. Kita jaga Kita. Because in future i will help you back.
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thats why is right for our epf to direct more funds to help local business...
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Jul 15 2024, 08:24 AM
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Better than tipu dgn type c
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sometime this happend also lh...
but the other still learning how to trade properly... progress so slow also... maybe reach limit edi... |
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Jul 15 2024, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jul 15 2024, 01:20 AM) this kind of cases seem to be exclusively to type-Mhe isn't the 1st and isn't the last already many artist and influencer kena already and complained on their social media...same exact thing and complain meanwhile the part where they hire chinese to do already finished long ago |
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QUOTE(danabu @ Jul 15 2024, 06:57 AM) To be fair, non also got bad contractors... those house renovation...many already kena loh....famous or notBut when you have chance to serve Cheft Wan, do it nicely, it will be good reference next time.. the non contractor's part is done long ago....the type M part is not done until today...furniture and electronics cannot move in yet |
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 15 2024, 01:14 AM) “Niat nak tolong kontractor type M…†better get Indon, cheaper and better quality. Have worked with a few before, type M sembang kencang, ambik deposit dulu, masuk org keja, mia 2 minggu xbayar org keja then mintak advance. |
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 15 2024, 02:26 AM) This is quite true. My wife's relative is in renovation industry. Really hard to get labour now. Government regulation also make it challenging in recent years. Gaji rendah labourer.Plus cost of materials and labour has all went up. Try 30/hr. Then see if someone coming for it or not. Gone was the 50/day |
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 15 2024, 02:26 AM) This is quite true. My wife's relative is in renovation industry. Really hard to get labour now. Government regulation also make it challenging in recent years. Yet we not only not showing appreciation towards foreign workers but despise them flooding KLCC during holiday. Go figure.Plus cost of materials and labour has all went up. |
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Niat 😂😂😂😂
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QUOTE(ts1 @ Jul 15 2024, 08:37 AM) for type-C, who provide the best value, get the job. Cannot cannot mao said..no matter the color of the cat, as long as can catch rat is a good cat. Later the Saluran Arus atau aliran air dalam rumahhh harommmmmmm dan tidak menepati hukum agama This post has been edited by carloz28: Jul 15 2024, 08:53 AM |
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actually, cina contractor also for cheat. Depends on luck really. netmatrix liked this post
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Jul 15 2024, 08:56 AM
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Janji Melayu kite
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type m tipu type m?
mesti salah DAP |
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M vs M, nothing to see, lepas ni solat, pakai songkok, hok aloh abe baik ore nyo...semua sudah lupa.
Kalau type - C, Boikot! kapiaq |
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Advance that much is insane. Unless his remit is worth way more than that
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listen to contractor side of story first, fruit mana mungkin tipu punya.
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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Jul 15 2024, 09:03 AM) Yep agree. Hard to find proper ones la. Chinese also cheat then run away when house collapse. My close relative is the porch collapse lol.Best is find proper cidb registered Chinese contractor and do proper documentation la. Advance payment if want give also less than 10%, better if no advance payment unless got good reason. |
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depend on contractor, my house renovation..type C, after he has done 20% he asked for 20%..usually i instantly trf to him..so when he asked him do additional work, he is willingly to do fast coz i trf immediately to him once he has asked. there were some occasions i asked him u no need money why nvr ask money, responded said no time do billing haha
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thats why if tak reti handle projek, appoint konsultan.
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Kaki potong ape bangsa pun ade, just ur luck and due diligent.
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QUOTE(ts1 @ Jul 15 2024, 09:37 AM) for type-C, who provide the best value, get the job. Mao Tu orang mane? Kito kat MY tengok 3R saja, sejak bila Kita tengok kewarganegaraan? mao said..no matter the color of the cat, as long as can catch rat is a good cat. Asalkan ko bukan dalam kalangan kelayakan 3R, maka Lu tak dapat job, tak dapat la. Owaiii... |
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Jul 15 2024, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(bugijun @ Jul 15 2024, 09:26 AM) Either want to save moneh or have bad dealings experience with Consultant/Interior Designer.or.......maybe the reno contractor dulan due to frequent last minute change from him. One of my frens who own a reno business (he specialize in industrial renovation), sometimes lamented private house renovation have alot challenges due to unnecessary changes in last minute (he took some private house renovation due to low season order). Industry renovation mostly straight forward due to signed black and white. Any changes by the industry owner straight away additional bill. |
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Jul 15 2024, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jul 15 2024, 10:36 AM) Either want to save moneh or have bad dealings experience with Consultant/Interior Designer. Exactly, one of the reason, that is why many established contractor avoid private house reno, 90% of the time fussy house owner especially women, in one case a wall is beautifully constructed, plastered & painted, came the lady say dont like it, then have to break it down, same goes to tiles, installed nicely, don't like, then have to open back again.or.......maybe the reno contractor dulan due to frequent last minute change from him. One of my frens who own a reno business (he specialize in industrial renovation), sometimes lamented private house renovation have alot challenges due to unnecessary changes in last minute (he took some private house renovation due to low season order). Industry renovation mostly straight forward due to signed black and white. Any changes by the industry owner straight away additional bill. |
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ok lettew, bayar lagi RM500k kan dah boleh settel.. buat pe nak viral org kiter.. org kiter mmg tak boleh persoal ok
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Typical... that is why it is always own due diligence before appointing contractor.... big warning if price too good to be true but want high deposit to start works.
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jul 15 2024, 09:36 AM) Either want to save moneh or have bad dealings experience with Consultant/Interior Designer. usually if house reno, owner will tend to deal direct with contractors...if he knows how to handle contractors through contracts ok la, atleast if things go south, the damages is in control...owner also like to add there, change here and expect contractors to absorb the cost...or.......maybe the reno contractor dulan due to frequent last minute change from him. One of my frens who own a reno business (he specialize in industrial renovation), sometimes lamented private house renovation have alot challenges due to unnecessary changes in last minute (he took some private house renovation due to low season order). Industry renovation mostly straight forward due to signed black and white. Any changes by the industry owner straight away additional bill. |
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Jul 15 2024, 09:47 AM
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400 for reno is quite huge..... for the house in the pics?
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Jul 15 2024, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jul 15 2024, 01:20 AM) Unfortunately, people, regardless of whether they are comprehensible or not, realistic or not, dumb or not, is also entitled to their opinions.QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 15 2024, 01:24 AM) The difference here is, same type condemn same type. If it happens to everyone, no one would talk about it. But a celeb was in it. So people will talk about it. Whereas for this, I think its about a week or 2 before it goes swept under the rugBut if its certain race vs certain race though You will find it getting quoted for some similar but unrelated scenario in future |
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QUOTE(Rorschach85 @ Jul 15 2024, 09:39 AM) Exactly, one of the reason, that is why many established contractor avoid private house reno, 90% of the time fussy house owner especially women, in one case a wall is beautifully constructed, plastered & painted, came the lady say dont like it, then have to break it down, same goes to tiles, installed nicely, don't like, then have to open back again. I find established one banyak character..they all wanna do big renno..If sum less than 100K they will not be keen... |
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I once asked a reno contractor for examples of his past work. He took me to a nicely-done house and claimed it was his work. When the weekend came, I went back to the house and spoke to the owner. The owner said he never dealt with that guy before. Fortunately my bodycam was on when the contractor made that claim and I showed the video to the house owner. He was pissed off and asked for that contractor's phone number. We phoned the contractor and asked him to pop over to clarify. He never showed up and I never saw him again, nor did I bother to contact him any more.
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Jul 15 2024, 09:58 AM) I once asked a reno contractor for examples of his past work. He took me to a nicely-done house and claimed it was his work. When the weekend came, I went back to the house and spoke to the owner. The owner said he never dealt with that guy before. Fortunately my bodycam was on when the contractor made that claim and I showed the video to the house owner. He was pissed off and asked for that contractor's phone number. We phoned the contractor and asked him to pop over to clarify. He never showed up and I never saw him again, nor did I bother to contact him any more. Wow you are so carefulI doubt anyone can scam you |
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Jul 15 2024, 10:02 AM
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Type m king of scam of
beauty product Mlm Trading Tunggang agama |
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Jul 15 2024, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Jul 15 2024, 05:58 AM) I once asked a reno contractor for examples of his past work. He took me to a nicely-done house and claimed it was his work. When the weekend came, I went back to the house and spoke to the owner. The owner said he never dealt with that guy before. Fortunately my bodycam was on when the contractor made that claim and I showed the video to the house owner. He was pissed off and asked for that contractor's phone number. We phoned the contractor and asked him to pop over to clarify. He never showed up and I never saw him again, nor did I bother to contact him any more. he did tat reno in his dream maso he confident can replicate it for u |
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Why the contractor so dumb? Usually they prioritize VIP dato clients because they will recommend a lot of future jobs for them. Today u reno their house, tomorrow u reno their factories. Why they don't know how to do business?
ps: I know because I was the client who got deprioritized from my fukin contractor. Bastard put my reno on hold and completed a dato's reno first, didnt even bother to hide it from me |
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jul 15 2024, 10:02 AM) I'm just an imperfect human...but my money is from sweat and aching back, so i try to take precautions. vapanel liked this post
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Jul 15 2024, 10:08 AM
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'angkara bukan M buat huru hara sama M' - BMF logic
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Jul 15 2024, 10:10 AM
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Jul 15 2024, 10:10 AM
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a lot shit renovation contractors like to scam
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I am sorry that Chef Wan kena game by earth prince contractor. He should have tender out the project, get at least 2 quotes or 3 if the price is above 500K. His intention to 'tolong' put him at a disadvantage and is a lesson to be learnt not only by him but anyone else. Best be neutral and fair from the get go. No need to have preference or give job to 'tolong' or give to friend. sage61 liked this post
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QUOTE(graphidz @ Jul 15 2024, 01:47 AM) I just reno a whole 3 storey, from wire/piping and everything from scratch including changes on stair as it is a house almost 40+ already. 380K only including electronic equipment.Furniture i move from old house so it save abit. |
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Jul 15 2024, 10:15 AM
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Classic. This is call tak masak tak makan
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like my cousin
borrow RM5k from me, not paid after due date (got agreement black and white also) Then want to borrow another RM15k with no definite date of payment Haizz |
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Jul 15 2024, 10:31 AM
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Renovation man is as evil as insurance agent and foreman sometimes.
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QUOTE(bugijun @ Jul 15 2024, 09:26 AM) Get yr point..My case renno was very simple..maybe 50K - 70K...If get a consultant, jacked up to 90K ...so makes no sense to get a consultant...was simple and straightforward..anyone can also manage using common sense... |
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QUOTE(LDP @ Jul 15 2024, 10:35 AM) Get yr point.. not everyone is capable of managing. say a woman with no experience whatsoever, i would advise them to get a consultant. My case renno was very simple..maybe 50K - 70K...If get a consultant, jacked up to 90K ...so makes no sense to get a consultant...was simple and straightforward..anyone can also manage using common sense... later contractor do work will bully the woman by giving lots of excuse and delay the work. and of course sign contract document as proof then if anything happen can go court claim. |
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Jul 15 2024, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(Silfer @ Jul 15 2024, 10:38 AM) not everyone is capable of managing. say a woman with no experience whatsoever, i would advise them to get a consultant. Agreed..If you are a lady, it is better to get a consultant or ID to manage it for you...later contractor do work will bully the woman by giving lots of excuse and delay the work. and of course sign contract document as proof then if anything happen can go court claim. |
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QUOTE(LDP @ Jul 15 2024, 09:58 AM) I find established one banyak character..they all wanna do big renno..If sum less than 100K they will not be keen... Is understandable they have experience end user/commercial/industry style punya , their gaji is expensive, example shopping center or office renovation either at night/after working hour they only give you one week in some office area they don't have month to complete, first few days they deploy 30 to 40ppl if all the preparation is done probably, you see them work and watch with your own eye no shortcut/straight forward very satisfied experience tengok also feel seronok/entertain 😂Don't know lah maybe since young i already interested this sort of thing always like to see them doing from start to end, mechanic lah, cooking lah, renovation lah etc etc is feel so curing even got one time renovation abang tell me adik pergi lah main jangan lah nanti dah dewasa tak ada masa nak main 😂 This post has been edited by zuozi: Jul 15 2024, 10:49 AM |
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Jul 15 2024, 10:51 AM
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Sejak bila bumi contractor but sendiri , selalu sub luar je
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Jul 15 2024, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 15 2024, 01:14 AM) Anyone can be gamed by anyone one lah. Just do kampong style contract work you buy the stuffs n the contractors do the work. Ay their agreed salary package. The foreman will tell where to get what. You Want cheap expensive standard your money. Things here the staffs work. You don't feel the contractors cheating tiu on material price cuz you checked n yiu know the price |
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Jul 15 2024, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 15 2024, 09:30 AM) But I don't understand why got people so bodo wanna scam someone so famous and no doubt has big cables. Silap haribulan kena balik. Scammer no flying fark who r u or ur fader is la, janji scam kaw u then chow.Ape pe lain citer. Klu dorang ade hotak kerja baik2 lor ... janji jalan jauh. Ni tak, scam left right n middle. |
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jul 15 2024, 01:20 AM) very true... My reno contractor, Chinese, took our money to Genting and show hand... lost everything and runaway leaving the Indon worker dont' know what to do...oh yea, it's not full payment upfront... it's just part of the material payment for that milestone... This post has been edited by thankyou: Jul 15 2024, 10:58 AM |
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With that budget, you could have gone through an ID company who would've handled the renovation altogether. nabielz liked this post
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Scamming happen everywhere, that’s why need to be extra careful especially huge money is involved. Never paid more than needed to avoid losing more. I’ve done 2 renovations, each time I will monitor closely the work before I release the next payment.
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QUOTE(LDP @ Jul 15 2024, 10:35 AM) Get yr point.. u will be surprise that common sense is not so common...lots of case reno works overpay...owner paid 90% but work done is only 30%My case renno was very simple..maybe 50K - 70K...If get a consultant, jacked up to 90K ...so makes no sense to get a consultant...was simple and straightforward..anyone can also manage using common sense... |
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QUOTE(Panda12 @ Jul 15 2024, 11:04 AM) With that budget, you could have gone through an ID company who would've handled the renovation altogether. Proper process would be go through architect. Architect is governed by the board of architect is a registered professional by law. You don't go trust a sdn bhd ID that is actually a contractor also lol. Architect will lead the team of c&s consultant, m&e consultant, contractors and ID and architect will be the person responsible for verifying works and signing payment release forms and dealing with majlis. |
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TYpe M and Type C , sama sama banyak scammer reno contractor.
Cause upfront payment term for reno contractor are 30% and some even request higher, once dapat payment reno contractor pergi tutup kuali dapur projek lain, and keep on repeat sampai KABOOM(Lari) This post has been edited by Clement1001: Jul 15 2024, 11:15 AM |
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cainis also a lot of conman, better hire ID with foreman, they will take care of everything, but of course more expensive la
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Jul 15 2024, 11:20 AM
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Don’t think this is type M or C. All types got scammer enduser liked this post
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type kaya
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Jul 15 2024, 11:25 AM
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Melayu mau cepat kaya beli lambo...
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Jul 15 2024, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Jul 15 2024, 11:12 AM) TYpe M and Type C , sama sama banyak scammer reno contractor. Yes scammer Ade tak mengira bangsa dan ugamaCause upfront payment term for reno contractor are 30% and some even request higher, once dapat payment reno contractor pergi tutup kuali dapur projek lain, and keep on repeat sampai KABOOM(Lari) But if u get scammed because of BMF mindset, then dei len sei la lmfao… zero sympathy from me |
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Bodo chef
Nak tolong , tolong sampai habis lah Kalau nak reno, cari reno contractors yang bersejarah baik. Kalao nak tolong, expect lah perangai ketuanan since 1957 |
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Jul 15 2024, 11:12 AM) TYpe M and Type C , sama sama banyak scammer reno contractor. Yep thisCause upfront payment term for reno contractor are 30% and some even request higher, once dapat payment reno contractor pergi tutup kuali dapur projek lain, and keep on repeat sampai KABOOM(Lari) Many don't realize that's the real reason for their "advance payment" Tadak duit jangan jadi contractor lah celakak |
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Kita Makan Kita.
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Jul 15 2024, 11:39 AM
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They say melayu x kelentong melayu
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regardless of race. I fcking hated renovators who extort owners. work slow, contract give to another contractor and then to another. never come to monitor work progress give many reasons cannot do Hope government implement licensing system for Renovators. jack2 liked this post
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Attached new video in 1st page. So it is a 4 months reno job. Even have black and white. That company is cooked.
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Jul 15 2024, 11:12 AM) TYpe M and Type C , sama sama banyak scammer reno contractor. Cause upfront payment term for reno contractor are 30% and some even request higher, once dapat payment reno contractor pergi tutup kuali dapur projek lain, and keep on repeat sampai KABOOM(Lari) QUOTE(11c @ Jul 15 2024, 11:20 AM) Yes all type also got scammer, but we all know if Cina scam, sure write "kalau tak tipu bukan xxx"But if Malay scam, "Semua bangsa pun ada scammer" Ha one Cina do, all Cina kena label. But if Malay do, suddenly can think rationally "all race got scammer one, don't be racist" |
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Jul 15 2024, 01:41 PM) Yes all type also got scammer, but we all know if Cina scam, sure write "kalau tak tipu bukan xxx" Dugaan..................But if Malay scam, "Semua bangsa pun ada scammer" Ha one Cina do, all Cina kena label. But if Malay do, suddenly can think rationally "all race got scammer one, don't be racist" |
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thats why petronas pun tak nak award their contract to bumi players for their solar power project.
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how many same case in gomen contract in malaysia history topkek
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Boycott la
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WTF.........of all people, u choose to scam a celebrity, AND it's chef wan u scam.........most loud mouth mulut tajam......for sure he's gonna blow this out of proportion n viral kaw u....... LOL Human Nature, netmatrix, and 1 other liked this post
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that is why last time i hire contractor for my house, I study and research very hard which contractor I will hire. Dont want to deal with this kind of issue |
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15,182 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Damansara Heights |
Should look for those registered with CIDB
Also in Facebook/tik tok/Instagram got many few contractors show their renovation works. Can go for them I seen a few. They are pretty knowledgeable |
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Jul 15 2024, 02:41 PM
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1,481 posts Joined: Dec 2014 |
jgn cabar hak kita !!
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Jul 15 2024, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(Rorschach85 @ Jul 15 2024, 01:56 PM) For the same reason that i just mentioned. Some of them have upwards of 10 workers & equipments, so small scale might not be economical for them. Understood they have overhead and etc.....There are always pros and cons working on big projects..big projects require huge capital and more risky..whereas with smaller project, less risk as houseowner will definitely pay you as they wont runaway...This post has been edited by LDP: Jul 15 2024, 03:43 PM |
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Jul 15 2024, 04:11 PM
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109 posts Joined: Jun 2016 |
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Jul 15 2024, 04:45 PM
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174 posts Joined: Sep 2007 |
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Jul 15 2024, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Jul 15 2024, 01:41 PM) Yes all type also got scammer, but we all know if Cina scam, sure write "kalau tak tipu bukan xxx" Bagi lah nampak tolerasi sikit dari Type C, nak batu lawan dengan batu buat apa , semua parah jugaBut if Malay scam, "Semua bangsa pun ada scammer" Ha one Cina do, all Cina kena label. But if Malay do, suddenly can think rationally "all race got scammer one, don't be racist" |
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Jul 15 2024, 05:43 PM
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912 posts Joined: Mar 2011 From: Infinity & Beyond |
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Jul 15 2024, 06:14 PM
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189 posts Joined: Feb 2021 |
QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Jul 15 2024, 09:03 AM) Best is to separate themwet work contractor will do Foundation Roofing Plumbing Electrical Aircond piping conceal Safety door Concrete and brick work Finishing contractorr Tiling Ceiling Cabinet Window and grill Air cond installation Auto gate Wall deco and paint Water filter Or get a interior designer with 100k upah |
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Jul 15 2024, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Jul 15 2024, 06:14 PM) Best is to separate them ya don let main contractor pau everything. wet work contractor will do Foundation Roofing Plumbing Electrical Aircond piping conceal Safety door Concrete and brick work Finishing contractorr Tiling Ceiling Cabinet Window and grill Air cond installation Auto gate Wall deco and paint Water filter Or get a interior designer with 100k upah IF want to tiling , go to tile shop ask for contacts and if want to do wiring works, go to electrical shops and ask for technician contacts. If get a main contractor, u will be paying a lot of money to the contractor and the job done is usually unsatisfactory. |
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Jul 15 2024, 06:24 PM
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268 posts Joined: May 2014 |
Must be use the money go buy new car and cover somewhere else
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Jul 15 2024, 06:33 PM
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semua ada bad contractor. U just need to choose from review and rating or company with valid license
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