Chinese giant Geely has unveiled its new LFP battery cell, featuring 192 Wh/kg energy density, a 50-year service life, rapid charging to 80% in under 20 minutes, and minimal capacity loss in cold weather.

This technology, akin to iron phosphate batteries used in Tesla’s base Model 3 and popular power stations like the Anker SOLIX F1200, addresses various concerns about electric cars beyond their price.

The battery excels with 3,500 charge cycles, equivalent to about a million kilometers, surpassing the high internal resistance of long blade batteries supplied by BYD to Tesla.

The Chinese company also added that its LFP battery promises significant benefits for the used electric car market, as EVs could maintain performance over more than 600,000 miles with minimal capacity loss. This durability equates to approximately 50 years of service life, considering average annual driving distances.

Moreover, Geely’s adoption of carbon nanotubes and enhanced cover film accelerates the movement of lithium ions, achieving an impressive charging time of just 17 minutes to bring the battery from 10% to 80% capacity.

Due to improved ion transfer, Geely’s Aegis Short Blade Battery experiences only a 10% range loss in extremely cold conditions, matching CATL’s fast-charging LFP cell introduced last year.

Interestingly, CATL, the world’s largest battery maker, is pursuing EV batteries capable of lasting a million miles. They have partnered with NIO to offer 15-year warranties on EVs.

Geely will initially deploy its new LFP cells in Galaxy E5 SUVs before making them available to other customers. To guarantee the durability of the short-blade LFP battery, Geely subjected it to rigorous tests: exposure to open flames, puncturing with nails, rolling over, submersion in corrosive seawater, and operation in freezing conditions.

According to the company, the thermally resistant separator and self-healing electrode technology passed all durability tests with flying colors, paving the way for EVs with a 50-year battery service life.

Meanwhile, GAC Toyota’s upcoming Bozhi 3X SUV will be the first EV to feature self-driving tech, marking an exciting development. Toyota has also committed to updating its current EV lineup, with the bZ4X electric crossover set for enhancements between 2026 and 2027.

As part of this launch, Toyota will also introduce an autonomous driving system capable of navigating highways, urban settings, and providing parking assistance.

Additionally, Toyota is developing an LiFePO4 EV battery that could potentially reduce the production cost of the bZ4X by up to 40%. Whether these savings will be passed on to consumers remains uncertain, but it highlights Toyota’s renewed commitment to advancing EV technology.

https://interestingengineering.com/energy/g...m=article_image

good for China EV
over cap claimed by US is nonsense

will kebabooom?

Got battery ejection technology kan.

Why every thing must super fast charging ..

hope it has double sided or better 360 cooling for the battery

Cause that's the main issue people don't want opt for EV

Still no

Sorry

Maybe with the force of a tiny tactical bomb…owai

geely stronk

Fast charging not enough, consumer want instant charging comparable to refuelling petrol.

Bozhi, what a name.
Takde bola.

This post has been edited by killdavid: Jul 4 2024, 08:09 AM

Wait until the EV can also fly.

People only use car for 10 years

50 years for what?

Owai

Take it as a grain of salt.

Till it proof on the road.

It's another step in the right direction

You sure it’s all talk only?

if more battery swap station built around the city... better.

last time in our colleague nio in shanghai, sometimes he will be late for 15 min because he needs to detour to swap battery.

Will we be getting it in our Proton eMas-erati 7?
Said deploying on the Galaxy E5 SUVs which is our Proton EV right? Right? Or we getting our bateri from eveready? Sekali pakai habis, buang semua, buy batteri from Mr DIY to replace sebiji-sebiji.

Why Toyota tumpang the article at the end?

This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: Jul 4 2024, 08:36 AM

It’s about Toyota EV. So it’s related to EV news

Any technology improvement on battery is good, coz I think current battery technology for EV just cannot cope with our good-old petrol car...

But then, there is no rush for EV now...

Wait for few more years then perhaps we can see how EV will be...

True. We’ve seen this time and time again!

so 50 years maintain capacity 70-80%?

Every malaysian goes mamak TCSS.

When?

Battery 50 Years, other parts 3 months.

EV techs not yet matured, as ICE been around for 120 years

It’s just a matter of adoption. If everyone say it’s not matured and wait and see, it will actually slow down the tech development. That’s why EV was going nowhere until Tesla came out. Then China began mass adoption and we see the rapid changes today.

50 years, anneh already rotten away inside soil…. This battery still kicking…
Topkek…

Yes.

Geely announce the galaxy E5 will be getting this latest Aegis LFP battery pack. Latest tech.

BYD current blade battery oso lose. Their version/mach 2 only on par in density with this battery. Only gonna be mass produce in their new car by end of the year or early mext year.

It's that battery 50 years, Geely's gauarantee ke apa or talk cock je ?

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Jul 4 2024, 09:05 AM

very good car expire 1st before the battery

cant be helped, your other option is imagine waiting hours to fully slow charge your car at EV stations

of course, just like starfleet starships technology

I preferred a car that can traveled >2000km in a single charge/fuel, anything below 2000km is a none starter.

Agreed.

IMHO, hybrid market will boom first then only EV once they have solve the charging duration & infrastructure

Sometimes I also feel lazy to refill my ICE car LOL so i aint goin to wait 20min to charge the EV

It depends. Like my neighbour. He will take 1 hour every week to charge his EV. It’s his me time away from wife and kids. LOL

After discharge, battery become lighter?
Same analogy like petrol tank?

Is your hand phone lighter when battery is low?

This post has been edited by 30624770: Jul 4 2024, 09:38 AM

50 years seems like a very far fetched claim. Wait actual come out see how

Apparently yes
Make sense?

It’s negligible decrease where you can’t really feel it

Do you think Geely will break through the technology on weight reduction after discharge?

Google “GEELY SPACs” and you’ll understand the mentality that Geely adopts for its investments, ventures and products.

And if you don’t know yet, as a person who did a lot of business with the Chinese between 2016-2018, for the Chinese “warranty” and “guarantee” is a sales pitch and not a promise. They have no interest in maintaining any goodwill after they’ve secured your money.

Resale value obviously. The whole EV value highly dependent on how much life is left from the battery module for the next buyer.

Look at how Xiaomi launched the SU7 also know la. There was literally no news or reports at all on if there was any remedial fixes issued for all the problems the SU7 had. But then again all CN products where consumers posted Soc Med videos about problems with their products are generally are NATO'ed (No Action Taken Onwards) by the brand.

But the launching of the product was like promising the benefits of the sky, land and sea. In the end it is just a piece of animal dung.

That’s right. I’ve stopped doing business with the Chinese. I’d rather pay the 18-22% premium for Korean or 30-35% for the Japanese equivalent, be it product or services. You’ll save money and your mental health in the long run.

I think the weight of battery for EV is not the biggest priority.

The priority is longevity and fast charging.

Anyone that can reduce the charging time to 10 minutes and below will be a big game changer

TIL there is a expire of charging battery, should have know, i wait until like 50% of the people use EV

Remember Wuhan and how China denied COVID at first!

Stirp the battery from junk cars to be solar power storage. cheap cheap.

are you sure. the different in weight is in microgram or maybe less. Weight of grain of salt is higher than full charge battery against depleted battery.

Did China denied?

It was a new disease and they were unsure how it was spread.

Once they were certain of how it spread, they immediately lock down. All that within 2 weeks from discovery.

They shared with WHO back in end Dec about emergence of new disease.

From discovery on 31 Dec 2019 to 11 Jan 2020, they managed to share the genetic sequence.

Very true. Which is why Proton still doesn’t have enough spare parts.

Geely simply isn’t used to producing enough spare parts to support its cars. They’d rather move on to the next product or iteration. More profitable!

Yea right! Cool story bro!

😱😱😱😱😱
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Nasib baik here cuasa panas, so boleh pakai la cerita sejuk macam ni. Jimat sikit bil aircond tu.

I hope it comes with 50 years warranty on battery and it's associated parts.

Then we will see a lot of people start buying EV. Sampai anak and maybe even cucu cicik conco cumak also can use.

This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: Jul 4 2024, 10:36 AM

Cool story? It’s all on WHO and CDC website lah.

You can Google chronology of covid and the same thing will appear.

i am confused, 3500 cycles, if charges once per day, then isnt it less than 10 years?

1 cycle is considered as 0 to 100.

If you do charging everyday, it’s never 0 to 100.

If you really need to charge everyday from 0 to 100, can you really say it’s not lasting enough if it’s 10 years?

This post has been edited by 30624770: Jul 4 2024, 10:41 AM

thks for explaination, but why battery charges between 40~80% not degrading the battery? but charging 0% to 100% degrades it more?

Charge overnight at home is not an option?

This is my understanding. So, you might need to confirm with EV salespeople.

40-80% does not mean no degrading to the battery. It just degrades less.

It says 3500 time. So, only when your recharging is total up to 100%, it is considered as reduced to 3499.

Of course, it's all estimate. Real life usage will of course be different.

If you stay in condo and there's no EV charging port, it is not an option

One time charge equal to 500km, 500X3500= 1.7million km. Translate to 50 years of usage.

1 day you drive 350-450km full battery capacity cycle?

I thought there is a groundbreaking technology at this era. Sounds disappointing.

lets say i am a grab driver, or my workplace is really far, or i meeting many clients in a day... and the 500km capacity is only fetched 80% in real world usage right?

Biasa la Tesla/ BYD brag their EV car can go to 600++km.
Real life around 500km.

million km in 50 years or million km in 10 years is still a million km

ICE cars also do the same thing lar. Can anyone really achieve the so called fuel consumption they advertise?

Rapid self ignition of Chinese EV more like it.

Ada... Lagi bagus dr ads..

https://www.tiktok.com/@paultancars/video/7...256450715454736

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jul 4 2024, 11:09 AM

At a high state of charge, the battery operates at a higher voltage, which can increase stress on the battery's internal components. Keeping a battery at high charge levels for prolonged periods can accelerate unwanted side reactions in the battery, leading to the formation of a solid electrolyte interphase (SEI) layer on the anode. While some SEI formation is normal, excessive growth can impede battery performance and capacity.

Likewise, at a low state of charge, the voltage is lower, which can also stress the battery and lead to degradation of the cell's structure. Allowing a battery to remain at very low charge levels can lead to increased internal resistance and potential for electrolyte decomposition, both of which degrade the battery’s capacity over time.

guess what, you can also hypermile with ev

That's just a battery, it's not whether it can last 50 or 500 years, it's whether YOU HAVE ANOTHER 50 YEARS TO LIVE NOT? Lol...

This post has been edited by Atrocious: Jul 4 2024, 11:40 AM

So the 3.5K cycles only applicable if we are doing 20-80% recharge? Another question is the battery degrade per the cycles, so assuming the after 10% cycle, our range will drop 10%? This is at least applicable to phone battery.

i need a car that travel outstation frequently for family holiday without additional hassle

charging a night at home is barely enough for that usage

It translate to high resale value, or pass down to children

blade battery won't kaboom

So is Proton getting this?

If selling at price around RM80k then it is a real bargain liao

That’s why when I talk to Ora Good Cat salesman, he was honest in saying if you need to travel a lot, it’s still better to have ICE cars. EV is more suitable for city driving like going to office or shopping.

The BYD salesman said if you want to use EV for long distance traveling, you need to do a lot of research planning ahead as we are not like China where charging is available everywhere.

Anytime these how many litre/100km or what is laughable, have to drive slower than snail and drive on highway lol

Drive in start stop traffic what great consumption also gone

Sadly, there's nothing high value to look forward to.. Even the chinese drivers themselves are disgusted with EV..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCb3MkOgEg

Pass down to children? Lol. Don't joke.. You wouldn't even want to drive your proton wira for 50 years if its not sold off.. Lol.

Most travel long distance less then 10 times a year. Better rent a car for that purpose.

unless ev charges 300km in 3 mins.

Family holiday tak kan you no stop at RnR for rests?

Ora salesman speaking the cold hard truth and alternate solution which is honest

BYD salesman is merely giving a heads-up hoping you could buy into it, anyway a lot of charging stations does not cut short the charging duration which is the main point. Some salesman i've met even propose that not necessary to charge until 80% (20mins) per session if busy but that also means I need to plan for another session again? Pening la itu maciam.

That’s why the BYD salesman said you need to do planning first if you want to travel outstation.

However, if it’s for daily city driving, it’s not much of problem as you just need to sacrifice 1 hour every week to charge. Can just go shopping mall lepak 1 hour and kaotim

Thai consumer body investigates BYD over aggressive discounts



Win the battle, lose the WAR
https://www.wapcar.my/news/thai-consumer-bo...discounts-80347

Nope, because i dun like the food at R&R and we stop for WC only.

And why should I plan to go makan place that cater for the EV? LOL

So conclusion we are not willing to sacrifice for the EV. We only could use as little time as possible just to get a vehicle working to get us to the place that we wanted to go, not the other way round.

You can see my reply above.

Holiday with family is planning for the family

As for city drive, yes this I agree but I don't need that charger at mall. I have a landed house but then we are talking about outstation.

I believe a lot more discount incoming, wait until year end and see with more and more EV brand coming out.

Like I say before it’s not totally undoable but just need to do planning first

It’s also changing your habit on driving. If you’re not people who are willing to change, then EV is out of the question

Next potong emas

say no to geely