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zidane28
post Sep 30 2024, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Sep 30 2024, 01:52 AM)
The biggest issue of Ten Hag is that, he has a play style that he want to play, and he insists that. Pressing and possession.

But it doesn't suit the most of the player in the team, or he keep using the wrong player to play.

Like Bruno and Rashford is counter attack type of players, if he wanna play possession football, be bold to drop them, like how he dropped Maguire in his first season.

Second thing is that, he just wanna improve on everything. People can only do one thing at one time. Focus on everything means focus on nothing.
Improved one area first, see the results, then continue to improve in other areas.

Stop talking about the players, more than 60% or even 70% of the team is not Ole players anymore.
It is about Ten Hag.
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I sometimes wonder the reason on why ETH insists on playing Rashy or Bruno regardless is because of his lack of proper management skills or still some interference in term of financial...

If we believe on what Bruno said, the reason on why he continue the contract is due to the promise on team will built around him...

Of coz Rashy needless to say, I heard a saying that need to play him to perhaps keep his financial value...

But at this rate, ETH will surely out first...

We can only wonder why ETH dare to bench Maguire but not Rashy and Bruno...
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post Sep 30 2024, 08:40 AM

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teng hag gg
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post Sep 30 2024, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(zidane28 @ Sep 30 2024, 08:40 AM)
I sometimes wonder the reason on why ETH insists on playing Rashy or Bruno regardless is because of his lack of proper management skills or still some interference in term of financial...

If we believe on what Bruno said, the reason on why he continue the contract is due to the promise on team will built around him...

Of coz Rashy needless to say, I heard a saying that need to play him to perhaps keep his financial value...

But at this rate, ETH will surely out first...

We can only wonder why ETH dare to bench Maguire but not Rashy and Bruno...
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so how was rash that game? to be fair to him. how was his game before the red? haha. did he take on any defenders or just backpass? laugh.gif
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post Sep 30 2024, 09:00 AM

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Malu la spent so much but kena thrash at home. ETH said to the press after the game they need more time lel. Bollocks.
It will be a miracle if he still there next week

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post Sep 30 2024, 09:14 AM

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My patience to ETH is now wearing thiner.

I blame both players and the manager. If this was like the 1st loss of the season, cause sometimes this the team can get an offday, just like during SAF days, it's acceptable.

But now, its the 1st few games, and only 1 or 2 glimpses of acceptable or good game.

The rest is trash
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post Sep 30 2024, 09:19 AM

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So how is aston villa doing...
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post Sep 30 2024, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 30 2024, 09:00 AM)
Malu la spent so much but kena thrash at home. ETH said to the press after the game they need more time lel. Bollocks.
It will be a miracle if he still there next week
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already 2 years... he can't use the "more time" excuse any more.
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post Sep 30 2024, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(tontolou @ Sep 30 2024, 09:14 AM)
My patience to ETH is now wearing thiner.

I blame both players and the manager. If this was like the 1st loss of the season, cause sometimes this the team can get an offday, just like during SAF days, it's acceptable.

But now, its the 1st few games, and only 1 or 2 glimpses of acceptable or good game.

The rest is trash
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Actually eth very consistent. We lost a bunch of game at the start of every season. The way the season heading, most likely we double digit lost like last season. Just searched back history, we lost 14 times last season! Didn't even realize it.

For 3 years, I can't see he got what special to turn this around. Maybe potential just a mid table club manager aje.
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post Sep 30 2024, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(verbatim @ Sep 30 2024, 08:28 AM)
Some of these players! is that what they can give to the club and fans?

Rashford.. lost the ball in the build up of Spurs' first goal.. He didnt even bothered to track back.

Dalot: How many times will we concede cheap goals because of poor marking at the far post? Brighton anyone? he was chasing Johnson and suddenly he slowed down only for Johnson scoring easily.

Watching Van De Ven running through our defence in a 'giggsy' kind of run, to set up the first goal, angers me further. He is a centre-back for God's sake!

If not for Onana, it would have been worse.

Some players are just not playing for the team now.. Its like they want to get the manager sacked. Just like what happened to Jose and Ole?
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My opinion remained the same, certain players is weak but at this point, tactical setup issue is bigger than individual player issue.

And I don't agree the point where the players play like wanna get Ten Hag sack.
Just look at the player names I listed in my previous post, most of them was under Ten Hag in previous club, they joined the club bcuz of Ten Hag more than the club itself.

There is no such thing as the players wanna throw manager under the bus this time.
I don't see it at least, what I see is a tactical plan for off-the-ball possession that is full with bugs and flaws.

This post has been edited by KennRicky: Sep 30 2024, 11:43 AM
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post Sep 30 2024, 01:55 PM

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Another familiar frustrating feeling of being a United fan.

I think the first 3 minutes really captured the essence of the entire game. Our players misplacing passes and miscontrolling the ball. Even the first goal which I missed because I tuned in a couple of minutes late. And Dalot who had his worst game in a United shirt, was a prime example leading to the goal.

With Spurs charging down the right side, Dalot had Brennan Johnson running from almost the halfway line into the box. He did not chase his man despite having half the pitch to do so, let him enter the box unmarked and score. Dalot then out his hands up after the goal went in. Why put your hands up when you've already let an opposition player have a tap in. 2nd minute of the game, and not chasing. The lack of energy from the entire team was so visible.

Maybe now we'll get to see if the team is better without Bruno in the team next game. Or if it is more of the same.
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post Sep 30 2024, 01:55 PM

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Another Chinese FB article that reviewing, why it is tactical issues more than player issues.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Rmp83q6Usn...mibextid=qi2Omg

All (or at least most of) bad players already out, thx Ten Hag for the rebuilding.
It is time to proceed next step with another manager.

Don't ask me who.
Southgate? Attack wise will be still the same, but he actually will be able to solve the midfield defense issue for short term, ironically.

Actually anyone will be better than Ten Hag at this point.

This post has been edited by KennRicky: Sep 30 2024, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 30 2024, 11:17 AM)
Actually eth very consistent. We lost a bunch of game at the start of every season. The way the season heading, most likely we double digit lost like last season. Just searched back history, we lost 14 times last season! Didn't even realize it.

For 3 years, I can't see he got what special to turn this around. Maybe potential just a mid table club manager aje.
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14 times is pl only right. i rmb we lost half the game we played. we were that bad.. and we got less than 10 games into the season. but already maintaining similar records. losing half of our games despite signing all the right players.

after spending so much money, likely to send the manager off dy.

aston villa i rmb ppl mentioning they have weakened their squad.. almost joint top of table last weekend.. unai join villa similar period as eth joining us.. they were having good results and playing bayern this week?

cfc spending and buying crazy amount of players also have results to show. with a new manager. also likely to be among league contenders at this rate.

lfc new manager, top of the league too. spent almost zero dim this window on a gk (that they are not going to use).

running out of excuse and time soon
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 30 2024, 02:08 PM)
14 times is pl only right. i rmb we lost half the game we played. we were that bad.. and we got less than 10 games into the season. but already maintaining similar records. losing half of our games despite signing all the right players.

after spending so much money, likely to send the manager off dy.

aston villa i rmb ppl mentioning they have weakened their squad.. almost joint top of table last weekend..  unai join villa similar period as eth joining us.. they were having good results and playing bayern this week?

cfc spending and buying crazy amount of players also have results to show. with a new manager. also likely to be among league contenders at this rate.

lfc new manager, top of the league too. spent almost zero dim this window on a gk (that they are not going to use).

running out of excuse and time soon
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Ya. Lose 14 just in pl. I thought it's bug when I search the history.
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post Sep 30 2024, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 30 2024, 01:55 PM)
Another familiar frustrating feeling of being a United fan.

I think the first 3 minutes really captured the essence of the entire game. Our players misplacing passes and miscontrolling the ball. Even the first goal which I missed because I tuned in a couple of minutes late. And Dalot who had his worst game in a United shirt, was a prime example leading to the goal.

With Spurs charging down the right side, Dalot had Brennan Johnson running from almost the halfway line into the box. He did not chase his man despite having half the pitch to do so, let him enter the box unmarked and score. Dalot then out his hands up after the goal went in. Why put your hands up when you've already let an opposition player have a tap in. 2nd minute of the game, and not chasing. The lack of energy from the entire team was so visible.

Maybe now we'll get to see if the team is better without Bruno in the team next game. Or if it is more of the same.
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I'm wondering what is going on with the players' mind in this game. Everyone seems to be "giving up" even before the game starts.

Was it the lack of support from the front-line, that players like Dalot were like-saying "screw this, rashy, bruno is not giving us shit!"?

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 30 2024, 01:55 PM)
Another familiar frustrating feeling of being a United fan.

I think the first 3 minutes really captured the essence of the entire game. Our players misplacing passes and miscontrolling the ball. Even the first goal which I missed because I tuned in a couple of minutes late. And Dalot who had his worst game in a United shirt, was a prime example leading to the goal.

With Spurs charging down the right side, Dalot had Brennan Johnson running from almost the halfway line into the box. He did not chase his man despite having half the pitch to do so, let him enter the box unmarked and score. Dalot then out his hands up after the goal went in. Why put your hands up when you've already let an opposition player have a tap in. 2nd minute of the game, and not chasing. The lack of energy from the entire team was so visible.

Maybe now we'll get to see if the team is better without Bruno in the team next game. Or if it is more of the same.
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waiting for you to declare #ETHOut bro.
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QUOTE(EightPhantomz @ Sep 30 2024, 02:22 PM)
I'm wondering what is going on with the players' mind in this game. Everyone seems to be "giving up" even before the game starts.

Was it the lack of support from the front-line, that players like Dalot were like-saying "screw this, rashy, bruno is not giving us shit!"?
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Rashy and Bruno need to be benched! Wondering who's going to run the frontline, now that Bruno is out. Mount? Eriksen? Just realized, we don't have anyone else!🤯
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post Sep 30 2024, 04:40 PM

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Not a straight red card, the referee got it wrong

The correct decision should be a yellow card.

If Bruno fernandes didn't receive red card, we are very likely to get at least a draw or even a win.
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Sep 30 2024, 04:40 PM)
Not a straight red card, the referee got it wrong

The correct decision should be a yellow card.

If Bruno fernandes didn't receive red card, we are very likely to get at least a draw or even a win.
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no way

man utd play like shit always gave away possession . how to win or even draw?

and bruno keep making shit passes and cross
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wasted all the money buying ETH players end up sacking him lel
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 30 2024, 05:14 PM)
wasted all the money buying ETH players end up sacking him lel
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the players are still good enough for southgate. we might callback sancho.

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