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stillriver80
post Sep 29 2025, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Iconia18 @ Sep 29 2025, 09:19 AM)
Tu yg aku mention burden of proof itu FAM. Fifa takleh assume ahli gabungan dia antor falsified docs. Die assume document tu semua betul la and due diligence semua fam dah buat.

Keje fam - investigate lineage, prep docs, apply based on facts.

Keje fifa - tgk docs and approve. Fifa kena assume yg xkan fam nak menipu or gov Malaysia nak menipu. Xleh mntak fifa pulak utk pegi investigate. Ini bukan keje dia.

Keje Vietnam/indon - raise dispute and doubts based on their own investigation. Ask fifa to launch independent investigation.

Kalau dekat court hakim xleh assume peguambela pakai false evidence. Kalau proven peguambela pakai false evidence boleh kena ban terus Dari court and practice lepas tu.
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sbb tu kata knp bagi lepas kalau ada keraguan dari awal? takkan diorg tak tau dokumen tu baru dikeluarkan atau tak? dah bila dah tau dokumen baru dikeluarkan kenapa tak cross check terus dengan negara2 kelahiran? in the end ini melibatkan keputusan besar utk perlawanan antarabangsa & possibility utk kena gantung & ban... juga maruah negara serta kredibiliti badan yg menguruskan pendaftaran kewarganegaraan.... takleh la base on assumptions yg government malaysia takkan menipu... diorg dah lama dlm bidang ni kan takkan takde unit yg memantau kes2 mcm ni sblm bagi kelulusan sbb bkn malaysia je yg buat bnda ni...

This post has been edited by stillriver80: Sep 29 2025, 09:36 AM
Iconia18
post Sep 29 2025, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(stillriver80 @ Sep 29 2025, 09:31 AM)
sbb tu kata knp bagi lepas kalau ada keraguan dari awal? takkan diorg tak tau dokumen tu baru dikeluarkan atau tak? dah bila dah tau dokumen baru dikeluarkan kenapa tak cross check terus dengan negara2 kelahiran? in the end ini melibatkan keputusan besar utk perlawanan antarabangsa & prossibility utk kena gantung & ban... juga maruah negara serta kredibiliti badan yg menguruskan pendaftaran kewarganegaraan.... takleh la base on assumptions yg government malaysia takkan menipu... diorg dah lama dlm bidang ni kan takkan takde unit yg memantau kes2 mcm ni sblm bagi kelulusan sbb bkn malaysia je yg buat bnda ni...
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Die mcmni bang. Kite xleh salahkan fifa sbb tak cek. Mcm aku ckp td itu bukan keje dia. Keje dia bagi guideline on doc needed. Dalam kes ni kite yg allegedly salah sbb menipu fifa eventhough kite ahli gabungan.

Tp betul ke kite menipu?. Itu yg kite kena defend diri sndiri sekarang. Bwk semua lawyer and facts bagai and cross check dgn fifa finding.

Kalau betul kite tak menipu xde mslh sbb boleh bwk ke CAS.

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stillriver80
post Sep 29 2025, 12:58 PM

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ada la sket berita baik dari jepun & eropah... richard chin & dion cools 1st goal utk kelab masing2... congrats to both...
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post Sep 29 2025, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(stillriver80 @ Sep 29 2025, 12:58 PM)
ada la sket berita baik dari jepun & eropah... richard chin & dion cools 1st goal utk kelab masing2... congrats to both...
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Timing tak kena

Berita AA top 3 afc pun hilang mcmtu je.
Fam sah2 la bakal kalah grassroot award tu huhuh (ke dpt award jgk)
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post Sep 29 2025, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 28 2025, 08:05 PM)
Haha. Betul dah tu. Shortcut selalu 🤣

Anyway berita baru.

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So all 6 remain suspended from footballing activities until then. Fantastic news for Alaves, America & Velez.
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post Sep 29 2025, 06:52 PM

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Jangan sampai FAM kena saman oleh tiga2 clubs sudah. Pernah ada precedent ke seblum ni?
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post Sep 29 2025, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(nazq @ Sep 29 2025, 06:52 PM)
Jangan sampai FAM kena saman oleh tiga2 clubs sudah. Pernah ada precedent ke seblum ni?
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JDT x nak saman FAM ke? brows.gif
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post Sep 29 2025, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Aztec @ Sep 29 2025, 07:00 PM)
JDT x nak saman FAM ke?  brows.gif
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Bro…..
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post Sep 29 2025, 08:54 PM

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MPs dah start raise an alarm…..

DAP national legal bureau chairperson Ramkarpal Singh urged the Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) to reveal the technical error which led to fines by the International Federation of Association Football (Fifa).

He said this is because the national football team is funded by taxpayers, and that public money will be used to pay Fifa’s fine of 350,000 Swiss francs (RM1.9 million) on FAM and 2,000 Swiss francs on each “heritage” player.

“Whether or not a mere ‘technical error’ can result in such a serious finding of document falsification by Fifa or whether there was an overt act of falsification by parties connected to FAM are matters which would, undoubtedly, be relevant for the appeal which FAM intends to pursue against Fifa’s decision."

Full story: mk.my/U99VZYZ
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post Sep 30 2025, 09:27 AM

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MPs dah start raise an alarm…..

DAP national legal bureau chairperson Ramkarpal Singh urged the Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) to reveal the technical error which led to fines by the International Federation of Association Football (Fifa).

He said this is because the national football team is funded by taxpayers, and that public money will be used to pay Fifa’s fine of 350,000 Swiss francs (RM1.9 million) on FAM and 2,000 Swiss francs on each “heritage” player.

“Whether or not a mere ‘technical error’ can result in such a serious finding of document falsification by Fifa or whether there was an overt act of falsification by parties connected to FAM are matters which would, undoubtedly, be relevant for the appeal which FAM intends to pursue against Fifa’s decision."

Full story: mk.my/U99VZYZ
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abisla...bila politician yg xpenah4 amik port pasal bola tetiba terpaling terkesan dgn isu sekarang ni...hehe...aiyoookk jgn smp PMX plak besuara...bajet dh umum aritu juta2 dpt...ni hasilnya...
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post Sep 30 2025, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(sawanishi @ Sep 30 2025, 09:27 AM)
abisla...bila politician yg xpenah4 amik port pasal bola tetiba terpaling terkesan dgn isu sekarang ni...hehe...aiyoookk jgn smp PMX plak besuara...bajet dh umum aritu juta2 dpt...ni hasilnya...
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Actually dah few years gak lps dah masuk parlimen dah bro psl isu naturalisasi vs stateless kids kt Malaysia.

https://x.com/kdnputrajaya/status/1902573880130105454?s=46
Ni antara satu, bln 3 jwpn lisan dlm parlimen

Tp died down dah isu tu. (correct me if im wrong) rasanya ada perubahan akta abt this sbb problem ni mmg dah lama

https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/nasional/...laysia-lahir-di

Disclaimer ; bukan aku ckp sbb bola la kerajaan ubah akta, haha cuma lps isu2 omputih dpt pasport main bola makin ramai ni ramai wakil rakyat starts questioning sbb isu stateless kids kt Malaysia sgt tinggi
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post Sep 30 2025, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Sep 30 2025, 09:53 AM)
Actually dah few years gak lps dah masuk parlimen dah bro psl isu naturalisasi vs stateless kids kt Malaysia.

https://x.com/kdnputrajaya/status/1902573880130105454?s=46
Ni antara satu, bln 3 jwpn lisan dlm parlimen

Tp died down dah isu tu. (correct me if im wrong) rasanya ada perubahan akta abt this sbb problem ni mmg dah lama

https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/nasional/...laysia-lahir-di

Disclaimer ; bukan aku ckp sbb bola la kerajaan ubah akta, haha cuma lps isu2 omputih dpt pasport main bola makin ramai ni ramai wakil rakyat starts questioning sbb isu stateless kids kt Malaysia sgt tinggi
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tau...tapi lepas2 tu mmg diorg xamik port pn cuma most ngo bising pasal anak2 stateless n anak2 org asli/pendalaman treatment compare dgn player2 ni..cuma kali ni sbb isu ni dh mendonia seantero alam...so apa lagi ride the wave la tambah lauk kasi hantam kaw2..ni sume tcalit ni bkn yeffeyam je...imej gomen/agensi2 berkaitan mesti kena tembak ...lagi2 klu betul yeffeyam kalah rayuan...implikasi dia fuuu bukan takat bola malaysia je..

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QUOTE(sawanishi @ Sep 30 2025, 10:02 AM)
tau...tapi lepas2 tu mmg diorg xamik port pn cuma most ngo bising pasal anak2 stateless n anak2 org asli/pendalaman treatment compare dgn player2 ni..cuma kali ni sbb isu ni dh mendonia seantero alam...so apa lagi ride the wave la tambah lauk kasi hantam kaw2..ni sume tcalit ni bkn yeffeyam je...imej gomen/agensi2 berkaitan mesti kena tembak ...lagi2 klu betul yeffeyam kalah rayuan...implikasi dia fuuu bukan takat bola malaysia je..
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Tu lah

Isu dah jd semakin besar. Netisen pun dh start bukak artikel 19…and mcm tak tally…..


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post Sep 30 2025, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Sep 30 2025, 10:23 AM)
Tu lah

Isu dah jd semakin besar. Netisen pun dh start bukak artikel 19…and mcm tak tally…..
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Apa rasa gerak hati korang pasal issue ni? Gut feeling?

Macam ada hanky panky yg terlibat, tapi tak 100% la kot, cuma ada twist sikit2?
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post Sep 30 2025, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ahmad38 @ Sep 30 2025, 11:13 AM)
Apa rasa gerak hati korang pasal issue ni? Gut feeling?

Macam ada hanky panky yg terlibat, tapi tak 100% la kot, cuma ada twist sikit2?
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sy fikir kalau kena ban pun mungkin ada bnda baik yg nak jadi kot kpd bolasepak kita... mcm pawi ckp... mgkn dgn ni bolasepak kita akan jadi lebih transparent tak kira peringkat nasional atau kelab...
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post Sep 30 2025, 02:03 PM

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nak komen lebih2 tapi

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post Sep 30 2025, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(ahcab @ Sep 30 2025, 02:03 PM)
nak komen lebih2 tapi

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tangan rimau menghalang... ke tangan kucing? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 30 2025, 03:10 PM

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ni masa JAN 2025.

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let the blame game begin.

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