Adoi come on la, kata journalis

Bila news ni broke in lewat malam hr jumaat, aku x brp nak digest

Hrni bila start ramai influencer bola mcm rimauxi ulas psl benda ni…aku bru prasan surat JPN ada tulis takde bukti surat beranak
Haha

Sampai 7 org kebetulan xde bukti ke sorg je?

At this rate I dont think saifuddin going to entertain for the approval of naturalization easily…public scrutiny has become bigger

Isu ni bkn isu baru. Dah masuk parlimen pun few years ago.
Now? Can they (JPN/ KDN) going to bow so easily?

Ha apa lagi Presiden Kehormat, jalankan kewajibanmu.....

yes i have thought of it but if push comes to shove and it needs to be done to save this project from becoming vingada 2.0, it can still happen. yg definitely akan slow down tu is the ones yang nak cari heritage players from ntah mana2 country tu.

btw, https://www.bernama.com/en/news.php?id=2472389

oh my skrg ni naratif ultras fam ni jadi sampai mcm ni ke create perception kita dihukum because of our global political stand pulak? adoi la

This post has been edited by Rocko: Sep 28 2025, 06:37 PM

As always, push narrative dulu.

Yesss. Ni aku cuba sampaikan. Surat JPN tu tarikh 19/9 if not mistaken, before Fifa punya statement/ hukuman.

Meaning to say, Fifa dah bagi peluang Fam untuk jawab/ justify. Aku syak mmg tk ada proper docs pon, sebab tu Pengarah JPN buat ‘SD’.

And now nak main nerative ada orang complain. Kalau benda tak salah, tetap tak salah. Fifa tak simply punish berdasarkan complain kosong/ kabar angin.

Yg aku tk faham, ultras Fam boleh buy the idea. Cuba fikir logic sikit.

Internally boleh la control Fam/ Mfl/ Jpn/ Sprm apa bagai, kalau dah libatkan international agency ni, tak kan nak ‘pump duit’ juga?

Mana ada utk pride dah bang. Player Malaysia asal confirm panas la. Dia nak sedap dia amik 7 orang ni. Ada masalah terhegeh-hegeh cari yang asal. Haha. Mana mau ni…

its actually classic bila ko buat benda terlarang la. mula2 try sikit2 takut, pastu bila tengok mcm xde consequence, buat terus byk2 . first2 amek 1 lwn nepal pastu cam best xde issue, amek terus byk2.

Haha. Betul dah tu. Shortcut selalu 🤣

Anyway berita baru.

Aku rasa tak ada salahnya nak point out pada hypocrisy FIFA ni. Bila Rusia serang Ukraine, FIFA terus sanction Rusia tapi bila Israel bedil Gaza sampai dah jadi padang jarak padang tekukur, tetap juga Israel diberi peluang participate dalam FIFA matches. Amende double standards ni? Sama lah jugak dengan kes kita ni....bila fikir balik, kenapa cepat sangat buat hukuman denda pada FAM dan 7 pemain kita bila proses rayuan belum berjalan lagi pun?

This post has been edited by abmawie: Sep 29 2025, 02:34 AM

Clearly this quote is the best answer 👆

Sprm declare no fraud found during this issue

Fifa now having a massive problem after being exposed this case to public because there is potentially false complaint detected

Mula2 nafi..bising sape report..today ADMIT ada kesilapan teknikal ms hntr dokumen ..tomorrow apa plak.

Sefahaman aku, kena jatuh hukuman dulu baru boleh merayu. Kalau tk jatuh hukum, nak merayu apa kan?

Harini Fam keluar statement baru, so dah boleh agak keputusan tu kekal (we do admit mistake) tapi mungkin akan kurangkan hukuman.

Denda $$ boleh bayar, $$ boleh cari. Sanction, banned yang paling sakit. Pengajaran, jangan terlampau ghairah.

Kan manis keluar statement ‘humble’ mcm tu, daripada nak salahkan semua orang, kecuali diri sendiri.

Tp rasanya klu ada pesalah yg buat salah kne bg peluang dulu utk bela diri kan... xleh la terus jatuh hukuman baru nk bg peluang merayu bela diri utk kata tak bersalah... ke cmne? Cuma yg musykil knp fifa bg lulus dulu in 1st place? Diorg x semak betul2 ke dokumen sblm ni?

This post has been edited by stillriver80: Sep 28 2025, 11:47 PM

Sbb tu kita kena tuduh based on falsified docs.

Fifa endorse based on 'proven' doc yg kita bg. Tp burden of proof still on fam not fifa.

So most likely bila ada org complain fifa run its own investigation on the lineage. X susah pn die just perlu hantar PI utk check every family je dgn government records semua.

Tp aku x tkejut pn kalau either Vietnam or indon yg antor PI and bg result dekat fifa.

So kena clear balik sekarang. Fifa tuduh kita (FAM and government) doctored/falsified docs eg birth cert utk prove those players have Malaysia heritage but based on their investigation THEY ARE NOT.

Means kita as organization and country dah lose credibility.

Sbb tu JPN keluarkan statement. Malu la kalau gov kena tuduh cheating.

Mcm kantoi jkk kampung cop slip gaji tipu.

Igt burden of proof sentiasa FAM and PLAYERS as applicants. So kita kena cari jalan utk prove Fifa investigation is wrong.

And kes ni bnyk dah jd, Bolivia, Timor Leste, etc.

Cuma bnyk2 bnd aku x faham satu bnd je. Yg claim on initial list of heritage players tu dtg dari fifa.

This post has been edited by Iconia18: Sep 29 2025, 07:35 AM

Naratif je tu. haha

itu laa... katanya list tu dari FIFA sendiri & base on databse diorang... 'katanya' la...

kalau nak main tangkap muat ramai je yg dah digembar gemburkan ada darah malaysia & boleh buat je stail 7 org tu mcm kes mats deijl yg mmg ada juga keturunan malaysia dari moyang dia... tapi deijl tak lepas pun utk proses sbb hanya moyang dia malaysian & bukannya atuk atau nenek...

This post has been edited by stillriver80: Sep 29 2025, 09:03 AM

yup... hal ni akan menyebabkan kredibiliti kita sbg negara membangun with proper management system pun terancam juga...

tapi knp tak runs this investigation awal2 sebelum bagi kelulusan penuh utk beraksi dgn malaysia? ibarat mcm nak sabotaj dari awal... dah bagi kelulusan pastu tarik balik & bagi free wins kpd negara yg lawan kita.... ni melibatkan international issue kot kena check btul2 kan sblm bagi kelulusan? knp mats diejl tak lepas, boleh lak check lineage dia sampai moyang je?

This post has been edited by stillriver80: Sep 29 2025, 09:09 AM

Tu yg aku mention burden of proof itu FAM. Fifa takleh assume ahli gabungan dia antor falsified docs. Die assume document tu semua betul la and due diligence semua fam dah buat.

Keje fam - investigate lineage, prep docs, apply based on facts.

Keje fifa - tgk docs and approve. Fifa kena assume yg xkan fam nak menipu or gov Malaysia nak menipu. Xleh mntak fifa pulak utk pegi investigate. Ini bukan keje dia.

Keje Vietnam/indon - raise dispute and doubts based on their own investigation. Ask fifa to launch independent investigation.

Kalau dekat court hakim xleh assume peguambela pakai false evidence. Kalau proven peguambela pakai false evidence boleh kena ban terus Dari court and practice lepas tu.

Sbb tu fam skrg kena tggu full verdict and reasons dari fifa, kenapa fifa ckp doc tu falsified. Ape details.Apa investigation dorg dah buat and kite comeback dgn our own version lah utk counter. Kalau dorg tak agree then bwk CAS.

This post has been edited by Iconia18: Sep 29 2025, 09:30 AM