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JohnL77
post May 4 2024, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(accordvtec @ May 4 2024, 12:14 AM)
then look at the ingredient and make sure there's no palm oil in the ingredient. easy isn't it?
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Really ah? So easy to spot palm oil in ingredients list?

https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/palm-oil/palm-oil-labelling

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Emulsifiers: E304, E422, E430, E431, E432, E433, E434, E435, E436, E470, E470a, E470b, E471, E472, E472a, E472b, E472c, E472e, E472f, E473, E474, E475, E476, E477, E478, E479, E480, E481, E482, E483, E493, E494, E495


QUOTE(accordvtec @ May 4 2024, 12:20 AM)
is ajinomoto a major contributor to japan's economy?

don't u know there's a war on palm oil by the western due to its versatility and affordability against their veg oil i.e. soy bean corn etc?
u need to read more news and get updated with information
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U katak di bawah tempurung? U dunno Westerners don't like MSG because of racism? Japan didn't hati tisu ban "No MSG" labels pun.
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post May 4 2024, 12:30 AM

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Bruh Palm Oil is no worse than any other form of vegetable oil. This myth has long been debunked. EU oppose palm oil because of excessive deforestation,nothing to do with the palm oil itself. In fact recently a lot of EU experts themselves are reverting their stance because they realise that Canola oil,Sunflower oil all actually even worst than palm oil when it comes to enviromental friendly.
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post May 4 2024, 12:31 AM

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what brand ice-cream...?
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post May 4 2024, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 4 2024, 12:22 AM)
Do you know why Ajinomoto had that reputation? Same shit here

u need to read more news and get updated with information
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wait I don't understand. what's your point again?
what ajinomoto reputation? some people are allergic to msg and causes hair to fall off and other conditions.
it is also the same reason why people think msg is very bad for health in the same way as how suddenly the woke ppl afraid of gluten after eating that for years.
japanese has been eating msg on daily basis and yet they got one of the longest lifespan human on earth.
so tell me, what reputation again?


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post May 4 2024, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(sdust9999 @ May 4 2024, 12:30 AM)
Bruh Palm Oil is no worse than any other form of vegetable oil. This myth has long been debunked. EU oppose palm oil because of excessive deforestation,nothing to do with the palm oil itself. In fact recently a lot of EU experts themselves are reverting their stance because they realise that Canola oil,Sunflower oil all actually even worst than palm oil when it comes to enviromental friendly.
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finally someone with proper knowledge.
they got so stuck up with their amdk ideology that if the west said palm is bad, they automatically follow their stance and questioning our own government and law on protecting our major export.

these kind of Malaysian really funny
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post May 4 2024, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(accordvtec @ May 4 2024, 12:31 AM)
wait I don't understand. what's your point again?
what ajinomoto reputation? some people are allergic to msg and causes hair to fall off and other conditions.
it is also the same reason why people think msg is very bad for health in the same way as how suddenly the woke ppl afraid of gluten after eating that for years.
japanese has been eating msg on daily basis and yet they got one of the longest lifespan human on earth.
so tell me, what reputation again?
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U are doing the same thing that u accuse Westerners are doing towards palm oil.

Simply say MSG cause hair loss and other health problems.


But so what if there are food labelled No MSG? I wanna try food seasoned with other things cannot meh?
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post May 4 2024, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(accordvtec @ May 4 2024, 12:31 AM)
wait I don't understand. what's your point again?
what ajinomoto reputation? some people are allergic to msg and causes hair to fall off and other conditions.
it is also the same reason why people think msg is very bad for health in the same way as how suddenly the woke ppl afraid of gluten after eating that for years.
japanese has been eating msg on daily basis and yet they got one of the longest lifespan human on earth.
so tell me, what reputation again?
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Censorship and how effective it is to counter propaganda.

Not surprising you terbabas with karangan as usual.
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post May 4 2024, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ May 4 2024, 12:08 AM)
Please tell me which ice cream doesn't have palm oil.
Ayam gonna avoid that brand.
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Most premium ice-cream do not have palm oil, eg Haagen Dazs, Baskin Robbins, Tillamook, etc.

Similarly for premium chocolates.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2024, 12:42 AM)
U are doing the same thing that u accuse Westerners are doing towards palm oil.

Simply say MSG cause hair loss and other health problems.
But so what if there are food labelled No MSG? I wanna try food seasoned with other things cannot meh?
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yeah there's no evidence for hair fall cause by msg but that is what people use to scare ppl off the msg laugh.gif

there's no problem for labelling no msg. u can try all seasoning u want as long as there's no law prohibiting it
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post May 4 2024, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2024, 12:42 AM)
U are doing the same thing that u accuse Westerners are doing towards palm oil.

Simply say MSG cause hair loss and other health problems.
But so what if there are food labelled No MSG? I wanna try food seasoned with other things cannot meh?
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Wait til he learns MSG can be found naturally occurring in a lot of foods we eat regularly.

As an additive it is commonly attributed to giving 'umami', 1 of the 5 basic tastes.

Saying MSG is bad is like saying sugar or salt is bad. Excessive amounts, yes. As with consuming anything.
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QUOTE(Iamfro @ May 3 2024, 11:53 PM)
It's the "No Palm Oil" label is the issue..

Indicate that palm oil is bad,  if no palm oil, just say nothing.. why need to emphasize?
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How about no palm oil chocolate?

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post May 4 2024, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2024, 12:29 AM)
Really ah? So easy to spot palm oil in ingredients list?
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If you notice a lot of ingredients displayed are named by their basic chemicals.

Some put the layman terms in brackets. For those that don't, doesn't that make you curious? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 4 2024, 12:45 AM)
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Most premium ice-cream do not have palm oil, eg Haagen Dazs, Baskin Robbins, Tillamook, etc.

Similarly for premium chocolates.
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lol. u wanna recheck your fact?
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Some people racing find fault in everyday life to discriminate.

So...is the shop owner Chinese / Indian?
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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 4 2024, 12:46 AM)
Wait til he learns MSG can be found naturally occurring in a lot of foods we eat regularly.

As an additive it is commonly attributed to giving 'umami', 1 of the 5 basic tastes.

Saying MSG is bad is like saying sugar or salt is bad. Excessive amounts, yes. As with consuming anything.
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I know. dude. i know way more than you.
I'm using it as an example because you are the one who raise the msg and I'm defending it LOL.

please stick to your own argument and don't agree with me!

i never said msg is bad, at all! laugh.gif
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post May 4 2024, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(accordvtec @ May 4 2024, 12:20 AM)
even haagen dasz use palm oil amacam? lol
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Are you sure.? .......

https://www.haagen-dazs.ca/en/haagen-dazs/vanilla-ice-cream
... INGREDIENTS

Cream, concentrated skim milk, sugar, liquid egg yolk, vanilla extract. May contain peanuts / nuts.

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post May 4 2024, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 4 2024, 12:48 AM)
If you notice a lot of ingredients displayed are named by their basic chemicals.

Some put the layman terms in brackets. For those that don't, doesn't that make you curious?  hmm.gif
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In Euro countries they have laws to properly label palm oil in ingredients.

How will we know if there's palm oil in the ingredients if we don't have laws to properly label it?

Ironically, Euro countries do that so that consumers can avoid palm oil.

Meanwhile, cybertroopers are telling me to check the ingredient list lol.

QUOTE(accordvtec @ May 4 2024, 12:33 AM)
finally someone with proper knowledge.
they got so stuck up with their amdk ideology that if the west said palm is bad, they automatically follow their stance and questioning our own government and law on protecting our major export.

these kind of Malaysian really funny
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This is a strawman argument. So far nobody in kopitiam said palm oil is bad.

We are just asking, why keep censoring us?
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post May 4 2024, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 4 2024, 12:51 AM)
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Are you sure.? .......

https://www.haagen-dazs.ca/en/haagen-dazs/vanilla-ice-cream
... INGREDIENTS

Cream, concentrated skim milk, sugar, liquid egg yolk, vanilla extract. May contain peanuts / nuts.

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2024, 12:54 AM)
In Euro countries they have laws to properly label palm oil in ingredients.

How will we know if there's palm oil in the ingredients if we don't have laws to properly label it?

Ironically, Euro countries do that so that consumers can avoid palm oil.

Meanwhile, cybertroopers are telling me to check the ingredient list lol.
This is a strawman argument. So far nobody in kopitiam said palm oil is bad.

We are just asking, why keep censoring us?
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lol your argument so weak. its not about kopitiam saying palm oil is bad that get the law constructed to prevent reputation damage.
it is the government in the west that got so anti palm oil that triggers this.

still don't understand? obviously you don't since you think I'm doing a strawman argument for giving u the reasons why we erected this law LOL

This post has been edited by accordvtec: May 4 2024, 12:59 AM
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post May 4 2024, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(accordvtec @ May 4 2024, 12:58 AM)
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lol your argument so weak. its not about kopitiam saying palm oil is bad that get the law constructed to prevent reputation damage.
it is the government in the west that got so anti palm oil that triggers this.

still don't understand?
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Instead of trying to improve the way we produce palm oil and attain that Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO) certification, we make laws to censor people.
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post May 4 2024, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2024, 01:01 AM)
Instead of trying to improve the way we produce palm oil and attain that Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO) certification, we make laws to censor people.
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my god. u n your dumb argument again. care to verify your info before you spew nonsense?
malaysia been a member of rspo for years. how do u know we didn't improve our farm and production?

you can only repeat the same thing, making law to censor ppl, while you have been given many reasons why they did so.

its the same as 3R, might as well u go full retard on 3R coz they are censoring you as well LOL

FYI, indon also censor the no palm oil labelling. so u wanna ban indon now? LOL

This post has been edited by accordvtec: May 4 2024, 01:07 AM

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