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post May 4 2024, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 3 2024, 11:57 PM)
Why New Zealand no ban products that say "Non-Dairy"?

What's next? A law to ban "No Durian" signs?
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their law their pasal la.
our law then please respect our law.

simple as that. As a citizen, you are indirectly also benefit from the sale of palm oil in the form of government subsidies and infrastructures considering palm oil is our 2nd biggest export.
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post May 4 2024, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2024, 12:09 AM)
Well I have the same issue with TS. What if I want an ice cream with no pam oil because I think dairy tastes better?

Isn't that my right as a consumer?

It's not because I believe Western propaganda about pam oil.

It's not because I think pam oil is bad.

We cannot just choose a product that we think tastes better?

And wow some of you argue until like if you don't drink pam oil everyday, you are not Malaysian. Wtf?
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then look at the ingredient and make sure there's no palm oil in the ingredient. easy isn't it?

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post May 4 2024, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 4 2024, 12:17 AM)
People do that for Ajinomoto/MSG. Why Malaysia so special need censorship laws?
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is ajinomoto a major contributor to japan's economy?

don't u know there's a war on palm oil by the western due to its versatility and affordability against their veg oil i.e. soy bean corn etc?
u need to read more news and get updated with information
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post May 4 2024, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ May 4 2024, 12:17 AM)
Where to get healthy no palm oil ice cream. Why hati tisu. Unhealthy palm oil. Causing haze yearly burning forest. Hope palm oil biznez go down further.
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even haagen dasz use palm oil amacam? lol
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post May 4 2024, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 4 2024, 12:22 AM)
Do you know why Ajinomoto had that reputation? Same shit here

u need to read more news and get updated with information
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wait I don't understand. what's your point again?
what ajinomoto reputation? some people are allergic to msg and causes hair to fall off and other conditions.
it is also the same reason why people think msg is very bad for health in the same way as how suddenly the woke ppl afraid of gluten after eating that for years.
japanese has been eating msg on daily basis and yet they got one of the longest lifespan human on earth.
so tell me, what reputation again?


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post May 4 2024, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(sdust9999 @ May 4 2024, 12:30 AM)
Bruh Palm Oil is no worse than any other form of vegetable oil. This myth has long been debunked. EU oppose palm oil because of excessive deforestation,nothing to do with the palm oil itself. In fact recently a lot of EU experts themselves are reverting their stance because they realise that Canola oil,Sunflower oil all actually even worst than palm oil when it comes to enviromental friendly.
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finally someone with proper knowledge.
they got so stuck up with their amdk ideology that if the west said palm is bad, they automatically follow their stance and questioning our own government and law on protecting our major export.

these kind of Malaysian really funny
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post May 4 2024, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2024, 12:42 AM)
U are doing the same thing that u accuse Westerners are doing towards palm oil.

Simply say MSG cause hair loss and other health problems.
But so what if there are food labelled No MSG? I wanna try food seasoned with other things cannot meh?
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yeah there's no evidence for hair fall cause by msg but that is what people use to scare ppl off the msg laugh.gif

there's no problem for labelling no msg. u can try all seasoning u want as long as there's no law prohibiting it
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post May 4 2024, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 4 2024, 12:45 AM)
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Most premium ice-cream do not have palm oil, eg Haagen Dazs, Baskin Robbins, Tillamook, etc.

Similarly for premium chocolates.
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lol. u wanna recheck your fact?
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post May 4 2024, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 4 2024, 12:46 AM)
Wait til he learns MSG can be found naturally occurring in a lot of foods we eat regularly.

As an additive it is commonly attributed to giving 'umami', 1 of the 5 basic tastes.

Saying MSG is bad is like saying sugar or salt is bad. Excessive amounts, yes. As with consuming anything.
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I know. dude. i know way more than you.
I'm using it as an example because you are the one who raise the msg and I'm defending it LOL.

please stick to your own argument and don't agree with me!

i never said msg is bad, at all! laugh.gif
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post May 4 2024, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 4 2024, 12:51 AM)
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Are you sure.? .......

https://www.haagen-dazs.ca/en/haagen-dazs/vanilla-ice-cream
... INGREDIENTS

Cream, concentrated skim milk, sugar, liquid egg yolk, vanilla extract. May contain peanuts / nuts.

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2024, 12:54 AM)
In Euro countries they have laws to properly label palm oil in ingredients.

How will we know if there's palm oil in the ingredients if we don't have laws to properly label it?

Ironically, Euro countries do that so that consumers can avoid palm oil.

Meanwhile, cybertroopers are telling me to check the ingredient list lol.
This is a strawman argument. So far nobody in kopitiam said palm oil is bad.

We are just asking, why keep censoring us?
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lol your argument so weak. its not about kopitiam saying palm oil is bad that get the law constructed to prevent reputation damage.
it is the government in the west that got so anti palm oil that triggers this.

still don't understand? obviously you don't since you think I'm doing a strawman argument for giving u the reasons why we erected this law LOL

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post May 4 2024, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2024, 01:01 AM)
Instead of trying to improve the way we produce palm oil and attain that Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO) certification, we make laws to censor people.
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my god. u n your dumb argument again. care to verify your info before you spew nonsense?
malaysia been a member of rspo for years. how do u know we didn't improve our farm and production?

you can only repeat the same thing, making law to censor ppl, while you have been given many reasons why they did so.

its the same as 3R, might as well u go full retard on 3R coz they are censoring you as well LOL

FYI, indon also censor the no palm oil labelling. so u wanna ban indon now? LOL

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post May 4 2024, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2024, 01:08 AM)
So what's the problem now?

If we already have RSPO and people still want to sell No Pam Oil products, must fine and jail them?
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r u really that dense? or pretend to be dense so that you can win the argument by attrition?

come let unker spoonfeed you
https://www.malaymail.com/news/money/2023/0...ysian-law/75213

MPOC chief executive officer Belvinder Sron said palm oil is the number one national commodity and “plays a significant role in our economy and it should be protected as best as possible.”

Moreover, palm oil is a versatile and widely used ingredient across various industries, including the food, oleochemicals, and biofuel sectors.

“While it is important to encourage sustainable and responsible practices within the palm oil industry, it is equally crucial to avoid creating a prejudiced narrative against this commodity as a whole.

“If all anti-palm oil efforts in the country are not addressed, palm-based products will continue to be denigrated and boycotted in the world market,” she said.


QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 4 2024, 01:09 AM)
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Fyi, from direct source,  .......

https://www.haagen-dazs.es/en/quality-ingredients
Only Extraordinary Ingredients For The Ultimate Flavour

Extraordinary’s not just what we put in, it’s what we leave out. We only use clean label, kitchen-friendly ingredients (that’s all the real stuff!) to make ice cream like no other. We say no to preservatives, stabilisers, colours and palm oil . And we only add natural flavourings. We also refuse to pump our product full of air so that with every spoonful you get less air and more rich and delicious ice cream. Each scoop starts life as only four ingredients – cream, milk, sugar and eggs. To that, we only add amazing.

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What is your news source/link.?
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ive attached my photo didnt i?
well on more google search, it seems like they did not use palm oil but not sure why are they in the rspo if they dont use it.
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post May 4 2024, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2024, 01:21 AM)
You spoonfeed me opinion of palm oil lobbyist?

Thanks?
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then who should I spoonfeed you with? an anti-palm oil activist? laugh.gif
please tone down your dumbness. i cant handle it
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post May 4 2024, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 4 2024, 01:28 AM)
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Many brands, including Haagen Dazs, are owned by General Mills Inc, who is a member of RSPO. This does not equate to Haagen Dasz ice cream having palm oil. .......

https://rspo.org/members/4-0256-12-000-00/ - MEMBERS
GENERAL MILLS, INC


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Mills
.... Today, the company markets many well-known North American brands, including Gold Medal flour, Annie's Homegrown, Lärabar, Cascadian Farm, Betty Crocker, Yoplait, Nature Valley, Totino's, Pillsbury, Old El Paso, Häagen-Dazs, as well as breakfast cereals under the General Mills name, including Cheerios, Wheaties, Chex, Lucky Charms, Trix, Cocoa Puffs and Count Chocula and the other monster cereals. ...
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got it. but still, not all premium ice cream are palm oil free.

example:
https://www.baskinrobbinsathome.com/ice-cre...20Natural%20and
https://www.tillamook.com/products/ice-crea...okies-and-cream

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post May 4 2024, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 4 2024, 01:31 AM)
Clearly you only know how to hallucinate more than me as you're missing the point entirely.

I'd suggest you stop the hallucinogens.
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if that's what you think, sure lets go back and re-align the argument.
so you said ajinomoto got the same treatment.
please explain, what "same treatment" you were referring to?

IF you say ajinomoto/msg got demonized, then my reply is on-point and u r the one who are hallucinating.
if it is not, then I'm waiting for your clarification laugh.gif
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post May 4 2024, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 4 2024, 01:35 AM)
> Says realignment argument
> Terbabas

Yep
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no problem, let's unbabas it. i got time.
go on, realign it and I will reply accordingly
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post May 4 2024, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 4 2024, 01:37 AM)
Yea just like you derailing the other palm oil thread. When its obviously humour you don't get.
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eh don't change topic. come let's unbabas it. I'm waiting for your clarification.
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post May 4 2024, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(hellokitten @ May 4 2024, 01:37 AM)
"NO ADDED SUGAR" or "SUGAR FREE"... then how?????

Robert Kuok got make noise??
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wasn't regulated by law.
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post May 4 2024, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(jayakumarsc2 @ May 4 2024, 01:39 AM)
yes, to be malaysian, you must daily swallow 1 cup palm oil and believe all government statements. respect all laws, like the law last time that make publicizing the 1mdb case illegal.

dogs love to be petted by their master and will try very hard to satisfy the master. when they old, the master will give them a good quick death. some people are also good dogs. woof woof.
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the same can be said to the likes like you isn't it?
on how you got swallowed up by western propaganda that you demonized your own country's main commodity laugh.gif
oh the irony, woof woof to your amdk master laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ May 4 2024, 01:41 AM)
oh I remember him laugh.gif wat tan hor fried kuey teow man.

I suggest you just "ignore user" him
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if you are unable to debate with facts, sure, put me in whatever list because by doing so it hurts my feeling very very badly laugh.gif

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