I just read about this new Peugeot 408 recently launched, and it's now under Stellantis instead of the old Naza. Any thoughts or experiences on this new dealership for Peugeot vehicles? Has anyone seen the new 408 in the flesh or perhaps test-drove it already? The car looks good, looks like a hybrid between sedan and SUV. Price is also quite down-to-earth at RM147k for the base model being locally assembled (CKD) in Gurun, Kedah.

Are there any other vehicle brands being CKD's in Gurun Kedah apart from this new Peugeot 408? Is this Gurun plant known to produce good quality vehicles?

CKD already present for 2008, 3008 and 5008.

As for good quality vehicles, other people could interpret in a few ways.
1. Quality on manufacturing?
2. Quality on assembly?

Which quality are you after?

I checked out the car few weeks ago during preview before the launch. This is the type of car where going by your heart you would 100% buy it (the design and specs are all on point), but your brain would keep telling you no due to all the stories about Peugeot's after sales and reliability

Never buy when new.

Useful to know current Peugeot models are locally assembled in the Gurun plant.

When I mentioned good quality vehicles being CKD in the local plant, I am just referring to one aspect - fit and finish, particularly rattling sound in the cabin. Does the vehicle show rattling sound in the cabin wedged less than 1 year old, 5 years old and up to 10 years old. Some new cars less than 1 year old already showed rattling sound.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: May 3 2024, 10:18 PM

Agreed. It's mainly reliability and after-sales which are important for any vehicle. These days I don't care about resale value anymore. Even though after 5 years the price dropped from 147k to say 50k, that doesn't bother me anymore if the quality and performance of the vehicle are good, and that goes the same for support, reliability and after-sales.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: May 3 2024, 10:13 PM

I tend to agree for some cars. However, I haven't bought any 2nd hand cars before throughout my 30 years driving experience. I used to look at some used cars previously but after viewing the condition of the actual used car at the 2nd hand dealer and actual owner who was selling the car, all plans went to the drain as the condition of those cars was terrible.

actually Peugeot changed hands twice after Naza - Bermaz and now Stellantis - i trust that under the parent company you should get better service standards and parts compared to distributorship.

i’ve previewed the car too a couple of weeks back and it is a damn good looking car. i am not too sure about the base model because you will lose alot of the bells and whistles - most importantly are the exterior aesthetics. but that 20” wheels are feisty!

Yo bro, since Stellantis is newly handling direct only so ever recently this year 2024, many will not have experence to share and all thoughts are more like guesses.

But as the first gen 408 owner of 9 years until I let it off, let me tell you this.

Peugeot are wannabe , wannabe alternatives to Germans VW or even BMW and they fight with what they do best, designs that screams, watch me!

Are they are well engineered? No way like the Germans. In a lot of way they are fighting like Koreans which I have also owned one before: Beautiful in a quirky way, but like all beauties with oddities, they are temperamental ,a bit of a wild thing, tends to throw tandem now and then, if that is your thing, go ahead.

If not your thing, best admire from far, like how we often do when looking at high fashion and maintenance chics.

This applies for conti. Zero RV after 3 years. Best not to buy new and buy used them.

Example. My 2012 Peugeot 3008 is now worth 6-7k only. If it kaputs, it would cheaper to scrap it and buy another. And being a Peugeot, it has the most amount of electronics and requires a lot of TLC.

Yes, from the photos it already looked stunning so I can imagine the real thing to look even better. Read about the hopeless after-sales and support of Naza and Bermaz, so this new Stellantis will need some time to be proven.

So bro, you are an ex-owner of the Peugeot 408 for 9 years. Good to know.

The new 408 model with completely new engine and body will be different from the old 408 and yet to be proven. Nevertheless to me it's best to admire from far for now, although it's one desirable machine at a price that's not too exorbitant. It's the same with other Chinese vehicles such as Jaecoo J7 for instance, looks nice and promising with a fairly decent price tag. I've said it before if all these vehicles have a Toyota badge stamped on it, the it's worthy of consideration.

Currently the upcoming Nissan Kicks is the top in my shortlist. The entry price remains unknown but hopefully it's around RM100k-120k mark to be competitive.

Bro, not exactly zero RV I believe? You put it like it's completely trash. haha I just sold my Ford Focus mk3 which I owned for 10 years earlier this year, still can fetch RM12k. Not exactly total loss. Bought RM110k, sold RM12k, at least it can still fetch a little money which is better than nothing.

Ford Focus can fetch better price because you can still go back to SD if you get into trouble, Peugeot, no more Naza, no more Berjaya, now it is only a Careline...

I sold my 9 year old Pug for less than 10k 2 years back

Nissan?

Kick was on my wanting list too for a while, a long while actually but it never arrive despite whatever SA says back then , so my fear is only will it ever come?

Yes, Nissan kicks. My sales advisor told me it's coming by year end. Even if it's delayed, I would expect it to come by early to middle of next year. As for the new X-trail, it's postponed to next year.

Wow, in your case totally no more support from Naza for Peugeot vehicles? So bad? Stellantis can't provide after-sales for old Peugeot vehicles? If that's the case, not a surprise resale value is low. Can still go to outside workshop if that's the case, though spare parts will be problem.

I traded in my Ford when getting the new Nissan Almera. If I post on Mudah.com and sell alone, it will likely fetch a higher price around RM15k+/- but I don't want the hassle since I have replaced the steering rack with a poor condition unit. The interior of the car is in tip top condition.

After warranty, I have already get serviced elsewhere , not from Naza anymore and never been to Berjaya.

I sold my car before Stellantis take back, so can't comment about Stellantis.

Outside service is not bad but too many cars waiting to be served and repaired, I think 408 was more popularly sold than Focus back then, too many long waits and sometimes have to leave cars overnights are the reason why I said I am done with it.

Spending money is one thing, but your time and energy get sucked out like that is another.

That is why I dislikes service visits. That is why my next car will all be EVs if given the choice

I hope you are right but I don't share your optimism on Kickc's arrival.

You can check out how many previous gen get push out country by country using the link below


https://www.chinamobil.ru/eng/cars/nissan/n...sales_thailand/

https://www.chinamobil.ru/eng/cars/nissan/n...es_philippines/

https://www.chinamobil.ru/eng/cars/nissan/n...ales_indonesia/

The car just does not sell that well