https://soyacincau.com/2024/02/21/proton-la...le-models-soon/

Given its partnership with Geely, it is likely that the upcoming Proton EV will be based on existing models under the Chinese automotive group. Several possible options include the Geometry brand which has several electric SUVs like the Geometry C and Geometry E

Hyblid la, hyblid is the best of both worlds.

Waiting for personal EV chargers to be allowed in my condo.

nah... the worse... worry about engine... worry about battery... 2x worry... lol...

So, your phone.

Worry about wifi, worry about camera?

worry dropping/crack screen... worry battery bulging...

Bro,

Don't worry, be happy!

The problem is the pricing. If below RM100K, it will complete with existing own model.

If higher than that, can't complete with BYD, MG, and another EV.

when excise duty ends... rm100k cbu evs will be say 200k...

plenty of wiggle room then...

Galaxy E5 is developed for RHD in mind so maybe this is the one for Proton
https://carnewschina.com/2024/04/15/geely-g...n-chinese-miit/

Best of both worlds = worst of both worlds too

It is like having two wives in the same house, if you can manage them both, well and good but if not......

Incidentally ...

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/p...ndemic-malaysia

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Apr 21 2024, 11:10 AM

The size of the Geely Galaxy E5 is 4615/1901/1670 mm, and the wheelbase is 2750 mm. That make it longer than 4519/1831/1694 mm and wheelbase of 2670mm of Proton X70. Proton X70 is already retailing at RM100k, that will makes E5 an unlikely "affordable EV".

It may still comes but perhaps as the second or third models?

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Apr 22 2024, 12:48 AM

Good thinking...Added to the injury, the road tax of EV can be creative too, to protect P1 and P2, just wondering how it will comes out by this month

Wait and see first for ckd quality. And if Geely remove some features on our market etc. If in China BYD play factor for EV so maybe BYD car better in future vs Geely

Proton no more Kramjit Singh. No more pedigree. I not interested.

Proton brand has legacy baggage. Don't think it can hold up EV image in market with new players and no ice baggage. Better off with Geometry brand than rebadge to Proton.

yes but wondering how much would it cost .. if around other EVs car , then i might consider other brand

Except Tsla and some Chinese newer players like Nio, Xpeng, leapmotor, etc. , most EV makers or brands actually comes from ICE making first including the EV pioneer Nissan, BMW, Volvo, Renault, Hyundai Kia and a whole load of EV makers from China, e.g. Chery, GWM, SAiC (MG), GAC, Changan

So I don't think Proton is that unique in that sense of carrying such baggage

https://www.sinarharian.com.my/article/2544...keluaran-proton

Not scared no spare parts ke?

And the usual “mmg macam tu punya” when complain of issues with the car, but to be fair I also hear it fromHonda SC too.

they complaint for warranty parts claim takes 2-3 weeks where that's the procedure. SC u went noted for warranty request, they send to HQ for approval and waiting for parts. This take 2-3 weeks. Same goes to Honda Malaysia

Let put it is this way, BEV =less parts , less spare parts required, problem solved?LOL

Also data show BEV less likelihood to breakdown compare to ICE

https://thedriven.io/2024/03/13/the-data-is...-than-ice-cars/

usually not the engine/parts fail... things like aircon thermostat, door locks, etc... how to survive 1 day without aircon nowadays...

But given a low price, some folks may just risk it, right?

Of course you have a point.

Also , buying cheap keeps people poor, I certainly have that experience when buying cars cheap , two times. Poor me!



But the key to these is affordable, if you live paycheck to paycheck, and want a BEV , an affordable BEV is a heaven sent.

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Apr 25 2024, 10:08 AM

think the most concern for EV potential buyer are the charging facilities' availabilities in the future when more EV car owners on the road. For the drive range, it improves yearly on the newer models launched.

imho... resale value... this is the stigma... stem from our low pay...

also bev quite new here... most folk taking the wait n see attitude because there is no real push yet away from ice... and public charging is confusing as fak...

people also don't realize the pull factor... i see ppl comparing say 100k mg4 to city/vios... its only 100k because zero excise duty, otherwise its really a 200k car for fair comparison here... des why when i looked at the electre... so cheap!!! but that car really too big... looking at the macan... still big... i prefer small pocket rocket, may have a long wait for this

So far the poll does show desire for both proton or perodua affordable EV....albeit to very varying degree, 20% of survey said waiting for Proton while less than 7% is waiting for Perodua

Almost 40% don't want BEV and almost 40% also willing to b to pay more when buying BEV beyond affordable pricing of P1 and P2


The encouraging note from the survey is more than 60% considering BEV

the keyword here is too open and many question marks are raised. affordable cz need to put it cheaper hence putting lower tech battery/ lesser range distance to compensate for the price? Or best just take the existing proven, finished product China EV or other EV and make some slight improvement for our market demand, better interior, etc.

EV is about technology and its a game of big players.

I think we can still expect a few trims as P1 and P2 has room to play with that

Yes, agree. Most Malaysian if like to keep cars to around 10years hybrid will be more worse to maintain as it will need 2x to maintain compare to either pure EV or ICE cars.

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Zhejiang Zeekr Intelligent Technology Co Ltd technology vice-president Zhao Chunlin said the global electric mobility technology brand aims to sell the RHD vehicles together with the left-hand drive vehicles to at least 50 international markets by year-end.

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Would it be affordable?

Poll number has jumped from 30 respondent to 39, result has also changed in positioning.

Now it shows equal 20% waiting for Proton EV and another 17.5% waiting for Perodua.

32.5% will buy other BEV

That makes 70% willing to buy BEV

The reluctant to buy BEV percentage has dropped from 40% to 30% only

Resale Value won't be an issue if you can buy them cheap and in cash for some. RM100k is a big sum to pay in cash but, how about RM50k?

The real issue is PPP (Protection of P1 and P2). The protection comes at a cost. Bacause where they are no protection, see what happens :

In Indonesia

https://en.tempo.co/read/1839049/top-10-car...guo-ev-included


In Thailand

https://www.dsf.my/2023/12/wuling-air-elect...st-in-thailand/


In Vietnam

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/business/compa...er-4677483.html

In Philippines

https://visor.ph/cars/you-can-now-buy-wuling-evs-in-ph/


Does Indonesia has good charging infra, does Phillips has it, does Vietnam?

It doesn't bother them there, why would it bother us here, right?

With regard to the P1 & P2 price barrier protection, I feel that they should only be given a limited time period like perhaps 2 years before the market is opened to other brands.

https://voi.id/en/otomotif/378545

PHEV of Proton get sort of teased but anyone care?

good job on taking existing Geely model instead of spend big for another new model

proton is a unique brand that make cars that cant sell globally

Yet local seems to be supportive

https://www.wapcar.my/news/proton-sales-in-...-of-civic-79193

Also, we are not that unique, GM cars of America also can't sell well globally. So bad 7ntil they exited Europe and South East Asia

Only USA and China care about them

A bunch of Indian cars also don't sell elsewhere.



This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 6 2024, 11:22 AM

So what happen to homegrown EV?

https://www.mgtc.gov.my/2022/10/proton-to-d...or-rd-training/

x90 sales lack vs CX8 tell everything, this car model is failed big time. Thanks to fire accident last time, keep using 1.5T 3 cylinder engine + mild hybrid (taboo name for normal buyer) for the sake of getting 300nm and rival Tiggo 8 with better bang for money. If they need 300nm should use 1.8T engine instead

for less serious, just to claim R&D tax cut to gomen
They dont have volume of sales to ROI if make own model, better take existing, completed model and change Logo instead

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: May 6 2024, 11:30 AM

That is why Chinese +ICE is no good as far as I am concerned

Look at Chery Omoda , and look at this Proton

Headache and heartache

Less serious, here is mine

Proton stand for Pathetic RIP-OFF; Terriblle & Outrageous Nuisance

Proton has been doing well with their x-series until the "no spare parts" issue came up and then their branding went downhill.

The spare part issues was so yesterday, which happened during MCO time. Now solve already. If warranty part claim is 2-3 week waiting similar to Honda Malaysia.

The X series been years already, sure wow factor no more. Need facelift asap with meet customer features demand, AA and ACP. All China brand no issues giving that while Proton still slow with Acotech junk company

Poll number has jumped from 39 to 52

Wait list of Proton EV has dropped from 20% to 17%. perodua wait list jumped to 19% from 17.5%

31% will buy others, dropping him 32.5%

Reluctant to buy EV percentage has jumped back from 30% to 35%

The buy EV percentage has jumped overall from 70% to 75%

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 7 2024, 07:59 AM

Really? Then why


2022

https://focusmalaysia.my/two-years-on-owner...70-spare-parts/

https://www.carlist.my/news/will-there-be-a...es-88675/88675/

2023

https://www.dsf.my/2023/06/why-is-there-sti...es-with-proton/

2024
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2024/03/...arts-china-bttv

Maybe proton should sue customers like Chery?

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 7 2024, 08:13 AM

What sucks more is as far as I can tell Proton themselves also not so keen to deal with their brand image now. I think they wanted more to go back to become Proton "Edar"

https://www.carsome.my/news/item/smart-1-ev...20in%20Malaysia.

Smart brands make them look best since losing Lotus in 2017

I don't blame them actually . Making car is super hard and not done right, you will close shop. it has happened to too many : Ssangyong, Daewoo, Saab, Fisker and many more



Selling what other make is much easier

Moreover, back then (2012 to mid 2017) Proton has one boss , DRB Hicom, now have two, with china mari Geely

Do you want to be them?

Don't believe me? Who signed up for Tg Malim?


https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/10/...omotive-hub-nev

Bapa call the shot, anak diam diam

Some more bapa ada ramai anak angkat through many "marriages": Honda, Isuzu, Mitsubishi even VW


Why Proton dekat bawah sekali at their websites? Aiya...
https://www.drb-hicom.com/group-companies/a...e-distribution/

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 7 2024, 08:49 AM

Q1 2025

https://www.wapcar.my/news/ckd-neta-v-to-st...y-q1-2025-79503

75k?

P2 quickly responded...

https://www.nst.com.my/news-cars-bikes-truc...en-rm50k-rm100k

https://soyacincau.com/2024/05/20/is-proton...g-ev-sub-brand/

Proton is asking the public to guess the brand name of its first EV via the company’s new Decode The Future contest. With total cash prizes of RM8,000 up for grabs, it may seem like another name guessing contest but we believe there is more to it than just that.


“Brand Name” is not equal to car name

For one, the contest is specifically asking the public to guess the “Brand Name”. Proton didn’t say what exactly it means by “Brand Name” but we don’t think it is the name for the EV series.


We believe that Proton might be hinting at a new sub-brand for its first-ever EV which will be launched next year. While this might seem like an odd move by the national automaker, this is nothing new within the automotive industry, especially for manufacturers from China.


Geely Geometry A – when it was launched in 2019.
As an example, Proton’s co-parent, Geely has several sub-brands under its name such as the Galaxy which focuses on hybrid and EVs. There was also the Geometry but this sub-brand has since been reconsolidated into the main Geely Auto marquee as an affordable EV series.


Another well-known example would be BYD which has created a luxury-oriented sub-brand together with Mercedes-Benz called Denza. The company has another luxury-oriented sub-brand called Yangwang and there is also the Fangchengbao which covers the off-road segment.

Is Proton EV based on the Geely Galaxy E5?

At the same time, the imagery that Proton has used for the contest features a silhouette of a car that seems to be identical to the outline of the Geely Galaxy E5. First announced back in March, the E5 has been rumoured as the main candidate for Proton’s first-ever EV given how the model was developed from scratch to have a right-hand variant.

Official details regarding the true capability of the new EV are still scarce at the moment. According to the listing on China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT), the E5 is equipped with a 160kW (215hp) electric motor and is capable of delivering a top speed of 175km/h.


The listing also said that the EV is powered by an LFP battery pack although its capacity was not mentioned. According to Geely Galaxy China’s official website, the E5 is 4,615mm long and 1,901mm wide while it also has a wheelbase of 2,750mm.

Proton invites the public to “Decode The Future”

Back to the Proton’s contest, it is not a walk in the park. For one, it is not a multiple-choice question and you only have one attempt to do it as Proton only accepts one submission per IC or passport number.

If you submit more than one, your entries will be disqualified. Not to forget, this contest is only open to individuals aged 18 years and above.

After you submit your name prediction, you will be presented with another test. While the task is fairly simple, you must complete the test correctly as soon as possible.

If you want to try your luck, do submit your name prediction over at the Proton EV Brand Name Contest’s mini-site right here by 5 June 2024.

https://soyacincau.com/2024/06/09/proton-ev-event-12-june/


Proton EV to be revealed on 12 June?

No EVs for me as long as ICE cars are still available for sale and gas stations are still in operation.

Of course no ev…

Until gomen punch us in the face with rm3.35 - 3.50 a litre of ron95…

By that time even charging outside will just cost 36% from filling up petrol… 😼😼😼

https://soyacincau.com/2024/06/12/proton-e-...h-december-gma/



Proton e.MAS first EV to launch in December, built using Global Modular Architecture

https://themalaysianreserve.com/2024/06/19/...the-evs-market/

The very long read...

“With Proton being Malaysia’s premiere automotive brand, Proton must invest in EV infrastructure to help EV buyers instead of leaving them high and dry, and that infrastructure will need to be completed before we advance into the selling stage. So said Proton Edar CEO Roslan Abdullah

Stop believing what he said lol. Remember the fiasco of AA, ACP for Geely car, the results of X90 poor sales

Well he can talk all the talk but we can see how the walk is . Buyers won't be easily fooled

Zeekr is doing well btw