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 Every Malaysian have to use MyInvois?, Or else face legal action? So strict?

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bashlyner
post Apr 25 2024, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(jayakumarsc2 @ Apr 19 2024, 10:53 PM)
when they make everything too hard and too dependent on some online portal that run by incompetents

then black market will grow

people will stick to cash, you can already see people starting to switch back to cash rather than QR

people will keep cash, even switch to foreign currency

LHDN should focus on big players , taukays, not try to push SME to e-invoice.
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THIS. Macai PH with their one dimensional thinking that e-invoice can achieve the same anti tax evading effect like GST.

In reality it's not, tax evader still gonna evade. At the same time, tax payer need to get through more trouble else will get punished by government. Kesian those law abiding senior citizen or small business owner.

This post has been edited by bashlyner: Apr 25 2024, 02:41 PM
Mixo Mania
post Apr 25 2024, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Apr 25 2024, 02:14 PM)
That is exactly what GST is being used for. So why remove GST that will benefit the tax evaders?
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Because existing tax payers will also pay gst.

Myinvois existing tax payers don’t pay extra.
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post Apr 25 2024, 03:16 PM

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Nolah takkan Makcik Kiah nasi lemak also use? And those seasonal lemang sellers how?
eidrag
post Apr 25 2024, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Apr 25 2024, 02:21 PM)
still waiting for their demo/test a.p.i to actually confirm whatever scraps of info that we have/understand is correct.

so far only see tba for their a.p.i in their documentation
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rly? we already engage with 3rd party, they seem confident....
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post Apr 25 2024, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(eidrag @ Apr 25 2024, 03:26 PM)
rly? we already engage with 3rd party, they seem confident....
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My vendor also confident at first, when meeting ask this ask that all become unsure, while we have a few models that can pump in data to match everything required, still need to test if the data structure is correct or wrong.

hasil's "sdk (beta) release" page is still saying TBD, so can't test yet
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post Apr 26 2024, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Apr 25 2024, 07:29 AM)
This is where you're wrong. GST was rushed out by Najib because he needed the money to cover all the holes he dug up  laugh.gif
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You think MyInvoice is not rushed out? They keep moving the implementation forward when the details wasn't even ready LOL.

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post Apr 26 2024, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Mixo Mania @ Apr 25 2024, 08:14 AM)
Because existing tax payers will also pay gst.

Myinvois existing tax payers don’t pay extra.
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still got GST?

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post Apr 26 2024, 02:46 PM

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dont spread fake info lah.....
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post Apr 26 2024, 02:57 PM

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This will be a test to see if the IT capabilities of vendors for MY gov is good. Alot to consider, security, data privacy, loading, resilience etc.
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post Apr 26 2024, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(NoComment222 @ Apr 26 2024, 02:57 PM)
This will be a test to see if the IT capabilities of vendors for MY gov is good. Alot to consider, security, data privacy, loading, resilience etc.
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Data privacy confirm fail
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post Apr 26 2024, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 25 2024, 02:41 PM)
THIS. Macai PH with their one dimensional thinking that e-invoice can achieve the same anti tax evading effect like GST.

In reality it's not, tax evader still gonna evade. At the same time, tax payer need to get through more trouble else will get punished by government. Kesian those law abiding senior citizen or small business owner.
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Yes should cancel einvoice immediately. Let the next government does it if they want. Now no one wants einvoice.
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post Apr 27 2024, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Apr 24 2024, 03:40 PM)
Thing will get complicated if you are just a co-owner of the property. So which of you going to issue the myinvoice?
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Just pick one person to issue the e-invoice, I think.

No point in issuing multiple from different person.


QUOTE(Mixo Mania @ Apr 24 2024, 03:48 PM)
MyInvois better because responsible tax payer won’t pay extra tax.

Only tax evaders will need to pay.
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I dont think so, you still need submit income tax every year, this is just extra steps to tax honest people.

Dishonest big time tax evaders have many ways to not pay tax, notably transfer to tax haven, want to investigate also impossible.

Only small time rakyat will be stressed out.

QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Apr 25 2024, 02:28 PM)
They really need to make it clearer/easier for small businesses, sole props (hawker, freelancer, etc.) to implement la. Don't put technical burden on the taxpayers. If they have a simple template or website that you can key in detail and it spit out an invoice with QR then easy, but at this point I don't think that's available yet, only the API route is ready.
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At least give mobile App, cannot ask nenek kuih muih to use laptop right?

Also one time entry of info, only the changing prices need frequent entry, but will still take time compared to paper invoice/resit.

Plus need basic technical knowledge and if device or phone broken, no battery, then must have a way to let people enter later.


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Semua panic... kekeke... berapa orang lari tax hor...
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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Apr 19 2024, 08:28 PM)
According to gov, even landlord (rent house), sell kuih muih, small time biz or youtuber will have to use MyInvois starting this year?

Else face legal action?

But how to use Myinvois? Said got portal but I can't find it?

Meaning old nenek selling kuih tepi Jalan also have to input every single jualan into MyInvois ka?

Why gov so authoritarian and greedy now?

Rich people get away with Tax haven, berbillion billion, but poor nenek have to pay every cent to gov?
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Yes 2025 need to use e-invoice small big hawkers everything need to use.
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post Apr 29 2024, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Apr 27 2024, 02:06 PM)
Just pick one person to issue the e-invoice, I think.

No point in issuing multiple from different person.
I dont think so, you still need submit income tax every year, this is just extra steps to tax honest people.

Dishonest big time tax evaders have many ways to not pay tax, notably transfer to tax haven, want to investigate also impossible.

Only small time rakyat will be stressed out.
At least give mobile App, cannot ask nenek kuih muih to use laptop right?

Also one time entry of info, only the changing prices need frequent entry, but will still take time compared to paper invoice/resit.

Plus need basic technical knowledge and if device or phone broken, no battery, then must have a way to let people enter later.
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So one of the co-owner issue the e-invoice has to pay the tax and the other co-owners no need? Who would want to do that?

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post Apr 29 2024, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(laitlee @ Apr 27 2024, 02:17 PM)
Yes 2025 need to use e-invoice small big hawkers everything need to use.
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I think many who hated GST will now have remorse?
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post Aug 1 2024, 11:47 AM

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MyInvois - today is the first day and so sudah kaput...

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