Mah Sing launching new project next to Plaza Pelangi. Location is good, and as usual high density. From sponsored social media ads, would you pay rm1k psf for a MS project?

I think Pelangi selling point is matured amenities nearby, plus KSL across the road. In JB near CIQ or future RTS area, all rental plays are targeting daily commute workers in SG. Locals would prefer anywhere other than CIQ areas.

But with new launch price for average condos hitting 1000-1200psf, I just dunno how investors are going to get a decent returns without going the partition units route. Honestly, there is a limit to CIQ rental rate and go up any further, might as well rent in SG to save the hassle of 3-4 hrs daily cross border commute. Unless SG rental rates hit sky high like the period right after covid, otherwiise for selling price at 1200psf, I need monthly rental rate at 5psf to get a decent 5% yields pa.

Majestic Gen launched Gen Sphere, selling 450sf layout with dual key. Sales pitch is 440m bridge to CIQ and make into dual studio unit that fetch rm2500 monthly rental per studio. Rental rm5k can easily cover monthly instalment of rm3500. Sound attractive pitch but i just wonder would i pay monthly rental of rm11psf for a 220sf "studio".

I own a few in JB landed already... dont get trapped.. nothing is guaranteed... I cannot sell yet as I still taking a lost or take a small profit if I sell now.
I hate to travel to JB because of the jam... SEZ is a flop waiting to happen.. only hype and hype and hype... nothin concrete

Alot ppl forget about the interest they are paying/ the repair/ the shit tenant they need to face... I really regretted buying malaysian properties as an investment.

should pump all im my epf... every 12~14yrs will double the amount or US ETF... or bodoh pay ABSD and whack SG property..

RM 2400 convert to SgD is Sgd 727
R& f rm2400 have air con

Your room at sg probably no aircon

Agreed. Must be walking distance. No need new condo. Sub sale also ok. Any existing condos near the RTS?

On the property front, the group noted strong demand for its Scientex Pulai 3 project in Johor, prompting plans to launch Scientex Pulai 4 — a 350-acre township adjacent to the current development.
Low quality

But price cheap
Kangkar Pulai will be next skudai?

U ok or not.. trying too hard to justify stay in JB. Either you are property salesman or you got a unit stuck.

Want air con top up abit ...

I m facing this issue now... let them get trapped... After RTS finish, hype over, we can see alot blood on the streets. Johor property is not like KL property... things can go south very easily..

Not to mention Mental well being and health goes out the window as well...

I understand your frustration, and it’s true that all developers may take advantage of people working in Singapore.

However, many non-JB residents who work in Singapore for 5 or 10 years also choose to buy property in JB. Their reasons vary—some prefer JB because of salary considerations, some like the idea of owning a landed house, and some appreciate the different lifestyle.

Everyone has their own situation and choices. Some don’t have children, some do. Some believe JB schools are good and less stressful compared to Singapore’s schools.

Personally, I’m not very fond of having so many condos near JB Customs. It feels more like a “customs city” rather than a historical city with character.

I appreciate your perspective, and I understand it’s a difficult issue. I believe that each person and family has their own unique situation, so decisions are based on what suits them best.

JB Merlin Tower will probably be the next place to be demolished and replaced by new condos in JB within the next 5 years

If you look at the Woodlands train checkpoint and Woodlands Customs, the roads are well organized. No matter how busy it gets, traffic jams only happen a little on the outside roads, and the HDB residential areas are not affected.

But at JB Customs, the traffic can affect areas like Stulang Laut, Jalan Skudai, Jalan Tebrau, and other roads that don’t even go directly to the customs checkpoint.
I hope this helps explain why people have different perspectives and choices.

My personal evaluations:

Supply - rough count, at least 20k-30k units near CIQ/RTS coming to market by 2026-2028. That had not counted those developments surrounding larger JB metropolitan and nearby second link.

Demand - on top of existing tenants population taking up units near CIQ, would need incremental tenants to absorb the abundance of supplies of units. That could be through additional jobs creations in SG or those currently staying in SG relocating to JB.

Rental upside: I observe that majority of CIQ tenants are blue collar workers or those working in Retail, F&B and service sectors in SG. There is a cap to the rental rate regardless RTS or not. Those professional or higher income group workers with family in JB, most would prefer to stay landed further away from CIQ or around second link as CIQ area is really not conducive to raise family. Probability of those higher income group to move near CIQ/RTS is unknown for now. For now, just can't see how much higher the CIQ rental rate can go up due to tenants profile. Too high rental, might as well stay in SG for those single tenants. Other factors in play would depend on SG rental market or exchange rate.

RTS is a game changer to some extent but not a complete game changer due to 10k passengers moving capacities per hour. Until the supplementary transport and infrastructure support is efficiently implemented to attract more relocation to JB, just can't see the prospects to justify current market price.

Well, I can be wrong.... As I am not a guru.....

how about V summer condo?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5528778
We can discuss here
So

Country Garden Danga Bay,
Tropicana Tropez Residences,
Bora Residences,
D'Esplanade @ KSL City,
Space Residency,
Exsim condo @Kebun Teh,
Citywoods (beside the hospital),

and
Setia Sky 88

are considered the worst in terms of rental prices over the next 5 years, since they are all located a bit far from the JB customs checkpoint ?

Topup abit get aircon room.. no need wake up early and waste time. You can buy time? Zero common sense.

not really... just here to warn ppl.. Msian property is just a small part of portfolio... already make money but slow among others.. all i bought just before covid...
My SG and Australia huat until..

I have second thoughts about RTS after seeing hundreds of Malaysians walking across the causeway at 6 am a few days ago. RTS won't affect their commuting at all since walking is free and only takes 15 minutes at most. I also noticed that almost all the walking commuters were slim, so it is a good way to keep fit. The only problem is when it rains...

🇲🇾RM5 breakfast 🇸🇬SG5 subway, a day for new mata workers
Get up at 5am every morning, get on a JB bus across the Causeway Bridge and squeeze into the crowded subway cars just to check in to the office in Singapore before 8:30.
I’m the apple pie that loves to write stories, not the new horse back and forth, but I witness them every day.
🌉 They earn SGD in Singapore and spend RM back in Malaysia. Sounds cost-effective, but actually, it’s really not easy.
✅ New horses hit workers back and forth for a day like this;
05:00 Wake up, drive/go bus from Johor
07:00 Arrived at Woodlands/Kranji metro station, transfer MRT
08:30 Arrival Singapore company
18:00 Off work, then back from the subway station all the way back to the level, may take 1-2 hours to wait
I got home until 21:00, took a bath and ate, rushed to bed, again the next day
Some people say they are "greedy", but in fact they pay for commuting and physical costs that neither you nor I are willing to bear.
🧾Return commuting expenses in New Malaysia (real reference):
Malaysia bus ticket: RM4 - RM6
Singapore Metro: SGD2 - SGD4/day
Monthly commute fee: approximately RM300 - RM400
Time cost: spend 4-5 hours a day on the road
❓ Then why still insist on new horses back and forth?
Someone said:
"Because the kids go to school in Johor Bahru, I want to save money to pay them tuition fees the " " "
"Rm1500 for mortgage, salary SGD2300 so I can save RM3000 a month. the " " "
"Not not tired, but living here. the " " "
In fact, the new horse back and forth is not "greedy and cheap", but thoughtful consideration of life Life is a simpler but more determined choice than those of us living in Singapore.
📌 write to myself:
Maybe I’m not a new horse back and forth, but I look at them every day and remind myself:
"You're already lucky to work harder. the " " "
If you are also someone who lives between Singapore and Malaysia, or is struggling to make a life, please leave a message about your day.
Its true that only low wage worker will chiong... I know a few earn SGD4k will still travel...

The RTS Link can carry 10,000 passengers per hour in each direction. With more travellers expected to use the light rail to move between Singapore and Johor Bahru, it is expected to ease congestion on the 1km-long Causeway.
From 5 PM to 8 PM, I believe there are at least 100,000 passengers taking buses such as 160, 170, 950, CW1 to CW7, as well as factory buses, from Woodlands Checkpoint to Johor Bahru Checkpoint.

Do you think the RTS would really gonna have a big help reduce woodlands custom and jb custom congestion?

I think converting the KTM tunnel into a fully covered walkway would be a better solution.

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Another big news from johor state government is that the KTM train service from Johor Bahru to Woodlands will stop by June 30, 2027 (if the RTS opens on January 1, 2027).



Can a roof shutter be built to allow all pedestrians from JB Sentral KTM tunnel new custom (if you take KTM train at Jb sentral before then you know what I means) to walk into Singapore Woodlands Train Chekpoint and vice versa ?
Sometimes, during long weekends in Singapore (3-day holidays), the bus waiting time — including queuing — can exceed 40 minutes to 1 hour.

Average size coach maybe can squeeze in 100 pax, to move 10k per trip, the RTS train needs to be 100 coach....i would think 10k per hour passengers moving capacity is more legitimate estimates.