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post Apr 8 2024, 12:14 AM, updated 2y ago

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Shoe logo row makes Islam look petty, says Bersatu man



PETALING JAYA: A Bersatu leader said the controversy over the design of a shoe logo, viewed as resembling the Arabic script for the word “Allah”, has made Islam “look very petty and bad”.

Wan Ahmad Fayhsal Wan Ahmad Kamal said in a post on X (formerly Twitter) that Muslims should not be so paranoid as to think that everything is a challenge to Islam.


He said: “Our actions need to be based on knowledge and not blind emotion.”

The Bersatu Youth chief compared the shoe controversy to the case of socks imprinted with the word “Allah” and said in the case of the latter, the offence was clear.


However, in the case of Vern’s shoes, there was nothing against Islamic law, he said.

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Wan Fayhsal, a former deputy minister for national unity, also said the mass media should stop reporting “such nonsense” for hits. “Islam is not the religion for stupid people,” he said.

The shoe company, Vern’s Holding Sdn Bhd, has apologised for the logo design, taken steps to stop sales of the shoe, and offered refunds to customers.

The company said shortcomings in the design of the logo, imprinted on the sole, “was inspired by the image of interconnected lines resembling a high-heeled shoe” but acknowledged the shortcomings in the design that could lead to misinterpretation.

Police are currently investigating the case while officials in Johor have seized several pairs of the shoes from Vern’s shot in Johor Bahru.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ys-bersatu-man/

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post Apr 8 2024, 12:16 AM

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Topkek even PN are more reasonable than dumno
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post Apr 8 2024, 12:18 AM

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"Wan Ahmad Fayhsal Wan Ahmad Kamal said in a post on X (formerly Twitter) that Muslims should not be so paranoid as to think that everything is a challenge to Islam."

Dr tarak akal: prove it!!!
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post Apr 8 2024, 12:21 AM

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post Apr 8 2024, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(grape sunset @ Apr 8 2024, 12:16 AM)
Topkek even PN are more reasonable than dumno
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Tu lah... macam dah terbalik dunia ni.

But if some one is right, he is right... no matter what political party.

In this fiasco, PN seems more rational.
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post Apr 8 2024, 12:22 AM

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Now they really look like donkeys.

Poor vern .. face book page get assaulted.

Suggest gov remove these extremist accounts.

It has become a joke really…


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post Apr 8 2024, 12:22 AM

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Anwar and UMNO pandering too much till PN also fedup lmaoo
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true story......religion don't make you BODO, BUT you make your religion seem BODO to others.
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post Apr 8 2024, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(Buffalo Soldier @ Apr 8 2024, 12:21 AM)
Tu lah... macam dah terbalik dunia ni.

But if some one is right, he is right... no matter what political party.

In this fiasco, PN seems more rational.
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post Apr 8 2024, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(grape sunset @ Apr 8 2024, 12:16 AM)
Topkek even PN are more reasonable than dumno
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Just another news to cover old news, janganlah take it too personal.

I pity those victims kena pick by those news maker.

Each of victim business lose money by just kena pick by them to make news.
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QUOTE(Aftermaths @ Apr 8 2024, 12:33 AM)
Just another news to cover old news, janganlah take it too personal.

I pity those victims kena pick by those news maker.

Each of victim business lose money by just kena pick by them to make news.
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Yeah I feel bad for those business owners whose entire livelihoods kena affected by people making up problems out of thin air.

There should be repercussions for those who are quick to call for boikot based on unfounded claims.
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post Apr 8 2024, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Buffalo Soldier @ Apr 8 2024, 12:21 AM)
Tu lah... macam dah terbalik dunia ni.

But if some one is right, he is right... no matter what political party.

In this fiasco, PN seems more rational.
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QUOTE(Aftermaths @ Apr 8 2024, 12:33 AM)
Just another news to cover old news, janganlah take it too personal.

I pity those victims kena pick by those news maker.

Each of victim business lose money by just kena pick by them to make news.
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Maybe that's why PAS have been keep quite because even how extreme they are, this beyond their level already or they could be not wanting their pary to involve so they just let their support let them be. Now not a single comment from them.
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Of all people, Wan Fayhsal. Ayam impressed
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IF IS WASN'T...

IT DAMN WELL IS NOW!!!


And you people ain't fixing it either. Yes you people!!

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post Apr 8 2024, 01:29 AM

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See how comsistent he/they are after the incoming by-election.
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Umno wan to win Muslim vote for the coming by election, PN wanna win non Muslim vote for the coming by election… so both actions seems justified … politician they are actor …
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well, well.

look at who's trying to pass off as the sharpest tool in the shed.
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this is really uno reverse card. umno is looking way way way bad
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I didn't even know about Vern's shoes.

Is this some kinda free advertising for them?
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why they dont voice it up during that moment, now talk cock got use meh ?
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PN will win big for GE16.

Madani sabotaged themselves because of UMNO.

Very likely because they don't know how to bring in more foreign investors into Malaysia. All those investments announced recently only MoUs.
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“Islam is not the religion for stupid people,”


if that is true then will they let the stupid people be banned from the religion or allowed to leave of their own accord?


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QUOTE(Adelyyne @ Apr 8 2024, 02:44 AM)
I didn't even know about Vern's shoes.

Is this some kinda free advertising for them?
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Do you think KK mart got their free advertising work?
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post Apr 8 2024, 04:27 AM

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https://www.facebook.com/verns.shoes

pity business owners in malaysia.



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what happen to the person that summon chinese ambassador and question him ?
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ts can add this to the 1st post
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QUOTE(Buffalo Soldier @ Apr 8 2024, 12:21 AM)
Tu lah... macam dah terbalik dunia ni.

But if some one is right, he is right... no matter what political party.

In this fiasco, PN seems more rational.
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Everybody is aware what is right and what is wrong.

PN has the advantage of playing the reasonable side because they do have big number of Malaysia supporting them, whereas PM and his government has to tiptoe around the issue so not to make mistake and lose more Malay supports, that's why they have been so awfully quiet.
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QUOTE(geelim77 @ Apr 8 2024, 12:23 AM)
true story......religion don't make you BODO, BUT you make your religion seem BODO to others.
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going to vote PN

Hope PH lose in next by election
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There something wrong to those idiot when wan faichai sounding u all. Lel

That meant u all are worse than Faichai.
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wen oreng said simpan skit bodo utk cucu anak

didnt know they meant it literally and multiplied
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Smart for PN play reverse roles,once get into power show true colours, wash rinse repeate for those in power next
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not sure what they are trying to get from all these?

more respect? u sure u getting more respect?
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Apr 8 2024, 06:29 AM)
not sure what they are trying to get from all these?

more respect? u sure u getting more respect?
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Politics. It's all politics.
They just want you to submit to them by instilling fears.
They have nothing to lose anyway. Could also be a paid cytro.
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mat jargon indirectly saying their supporters that suppork boikot are stupid.
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Malaysians always subject to politician manipulation using race and religion cards …

Generational miss comm, hatred, segregation, boycott and mass murders all stir from race and religion by politicians …
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post Apr 8 2024, 07:05 AM

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Islam religion is good but when it's manipulated by some politicians for their selfish agendas, then is missing the point.

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Why no toss Molotov?

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now the nons sudah terkonfius.


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only apply to kebodohan and kuat trigger
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Usually people are more rational when they are not in power
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Politician are smart but only trying to fool people......
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Apr 8 2024, 12:22 AM)
Anwar and UMNO pandering too much till PN also fedup lmaoo
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I say the former failed big time as a leader
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nah, it is for stupid people.
So that others can identify them easily.
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lol

Faichai is actually a better man than Kekmal.
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But the stupid can't leave. So it will always have stupid people. And stupid people breed faster, so there will be more in future.
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So the question I have then, are all these paranoid people lacking the understanding of Islam?


Pls investigate which school and what are their results

Something tell me these guys that is making noise for every single thing is troublemaker in school
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This round of accusations really reflect the intelligence of these kinds.

They can think whatever they want, but it reflects poorly at their mindset.

Any one that jumps into this bandwagon will look stupid as fuck. Dah la u bodoh nak tarik i sekali.

Some of them even condemn the king..lol u expect him to be at ur level?

Enough is enough. Some people don’t deserve internet
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 8 2024, 07:27 AM)
I say the former failed big time as a leader
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he did not fail as a leader cos He was never successful in the first place
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And some stupid will call this munafik
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Sikit2 Hina sikit2 cakap salah. Memang emosi & sensitif. Semua pun dianggap salah. Apa lagi betul? Lepas tu buat hal
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>Wan Fayhsal, a former deputy minister for national unity, also said the mass media should stop reporting “such nonsense” for hits. “Islam is not the religion for stupid people,” he said.

interesting...

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QUOTE(grape sunset @ Apr 8 2024, 12:16 AM)
Topkek even PN are more reasonable than dumno
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PMX se penggal.
PN just need to chill till coming GE.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 8 2024, 03:22 AM)
PN will win big for GE16.

Madani sabotaged themselves because of UMNO.

Very likely because they don't know how to bring in more foreign investors into Malaysia. All those investments announced recently only MoUs.
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it will not happen. the nons are more lacist when comes to voting. selagi nons 95% vote goes to PH. PH/BN will be more extrem right wing to get the fruit votes.

no political party will focus to the real development of the country since it doesn't translate to votes. their main goal is to win election.

Until the day all Malaysian votes are polarize, that is when politicians will focus on development as R&R doesn't gain them anything.

Nons need to vote PN and let PN win big next election. if you believe PN will fked up if they govern, then do it. when they fked up that is when the fruit vote will also split and wont end up like now.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Apr 8 2024, 08:28 AM)
PMX se penggal.
PN just need to chill till coming GE.
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QUOTE(spamfish @ Apr 8 2024, 01:33 AM)
how dare you Wan Ahmad, u steal BMX thunder !!
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BMX is slow to respond to the issue.

Slow as is super slow.

How can the YDPA actually do his job first, meeting the KK mart boss first?

Nothing but a coward
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Apr 8 2024, 12:42 AM)
Maybe that's why PAS have been keep quite because even how extreme they are, this beyond their level already or they could be not wanting their pary to involve so they just let their support let them be. Now not a single comment from them.
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They already commented saying they are not interested in all these fiascos, since these are attempt from umno to gain back support from Mm

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I sincerely hope agong will ban politician from talking about religion. They only stir shit.
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looks like voting pn seems ok je... bmx pkr can go hugging with umno kapal karam
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So when will boikox?
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QUOTE(68 others @ Apr 8 2024, 07:28 AM)
nah, it is for stupid people.
So that others can identify them easily.
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Shoe logo row makes Islam look petty, says Bersatu man
PETALING JAYA: A Bersatu leader said the controversy over the design of a shoe logo, viewed as resembling the Arabic script for the word “Allah”, has made Islam “look very petty and bad”.

Wan Ahmad Fayhsal Wan Ahmad Kamal said in a post on X (formerly Twitter) that Muslims should not be so paranoid as to think that everything is a challenge to Islam.
He said: “Our actions need to be based on knowledge and not blind emotion.”

The Bersatu Youth chief compared the shoe controversy to the case of socks imprinted with the word “Allah” and said in the case of the latter, the offence was clear.
However, in the case of Vern’s shoes, there was nothing against Islamic law, he said.

On nonsense reports

Wan Fayhsal, a former deputy minister for national unity, also said the mass media should stop reporting “such nonsense” for hits. “Islam is not the religion for stupid people,” he said.

The shoe company, Vern’s Holding Sdn Bhd, has apologised for the logo design, taken steps to stop sales of the shoe, and offered refunds to customers.

The company said shortcomings in the design of the logo, imprinted on the sole, “was inspired by the image of interconnected lines resembling a high-heeled shoe” but acknowledged the shortcomings in the design that could lead to misinterpretation.

Police are currently investigating the case while officials in Johor have seized several pairs of the shoes from Vern’s shot in Johor Bahru.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ys-bersatu-man/
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First time see this guy can be reasonable as well. Well done.

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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 8 2024, 04:27 AM)
https://www.facebook.com/verns.shoes

pity business owners in malaysia.
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There are groups of ultra Malay have been BMF since forever. I met some of these people at exhibition even during Najib era.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 8 2024, 08:46 AM)
looks like voting pn seems ok je... bmx pkr can go hugging with umno kapal karam
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Maybe when time come, they will separate in coming election.... Lol


You see many European country also like that... Kerajaan Perpaduan... This is part of democracy...
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Moslems these days are all about clout.

Certainly not all, even my /k/ bikers gang pun tak bodoh macam ni.

For stocking case, yes it was clear cut. For Vern's case, bruh. If everything you yourself see it as such, then it has to be as such? Then I see these bunch of dimwits as low-life, short-sighted, dimwitted, classless, can?
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there will come a time when just a smidge of ink on a shoe will trigger anyone into epileptic rage just because their faith is weak
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QUOTE(toughguy @ Apr 8 2024, 09:15 AM)
There are groups of ultra Malay have been BMF since forever. I met some of these people at exhibition even during Najib era.
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Why Bijan able to tame those guys? Even Moo Moo also can despite the suffering during COVID era. Only when Madanon in power all these ultra racist become the mainstream representation of Malay sentiment?

Salahan PuAS again ke?
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one play black face, another play red face.

why no correct own people who keep making this issue?
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QUOTE(grape sunset @ Apr 8 2024, 12:16 AM)
Topkek even PN are more reasonable than dumno
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more of UMNO bodo, cause too hero feeling until now kena balik.

good timing PN get.
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Haha is tactic to get more ppl to vote on in next election if they won they still have this case going around as a recycle to get more ppl vote for ph. Better don't vote for both side wasting time problem never resolve
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 8 2024, 09:31 AM)
Why Bijan able to tame those guys? Even Moo Moo also can despite the suffering during COVID era. Only when Madanon in power all these ultra racist become the mainstream representation of Malay sentiment?

Salahan PuAS again ke?
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Bijan was dishing millions yo, everyone mouth stuffed full of money to talk

As for those demo Boikot throe molotov, these are all paid actors same like gang protek

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QUOTE(halglory @ Apr 8 2024, 09:31 AM)
there will come a time when just a smidge of ink on a shoe will trigger anyone into epileptic rage just because their faith is weak
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why PMX havent crushed this akmal
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I dont like him, but now I am gonna vote for him
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Apr 8 2024, 10:08 AM)
why PMX havent crushed this akmal
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BMX has run out of idea to woo Malay vote so this is his latest desperate attempt.

If this also failed then RUU 355 then Hudud then maybe let Jakim draft our budget 2025 devil.gif
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 8 2024, 10:14 AM)
BMX has run out of idea to woo Malay vote so this is his latest desperate attempt.

If this also failed then RUU 355 then Hudud then maybe let Jakim draft our budget 2025  devil.gif
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Where's my Merdeka survey at?
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Apr 8 2024, 08:30 AM)
it will not happen. the nons are more lacist when comes to voting. selagi nons 95% vote goes to PH. PH/BN will be more extrem right wing to get the fruit votes.

no political party will focus to the real development of the country since it doesn't translate to votes. their main goal is to win election.

Until the day all Malaysian votes are polarize, that is when politicians will focus on development as R&R doesn't gain them anything.

Nons need to vote PN and let PN win big next election. if you believe PN will fked up if they govern, then do it. when they fked up that is when the fruit vote will also split and wont end up like now.
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Nons just need to stay home on voting day for PH to gg.
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 8 2024, 09:31 AM)
Why Bijan able to tame those guys? Even Moo Moo also can despite the suffering during COVID era. Only when Madanon in power all these ultra racist become the mainstream representation of Malay sentiment?

Salahan PuAS again ke?
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Ali Tinju, lowyat to red shirt march (heading to Petaling Street, not the original gathering) to disrupting Atuks no where to hide

PS fun fact Ali Tinju not charged over lowyat

https://theedgemalaysia.com/article/ali-tin...d-lack-evidence

Jamal Yunos..nuff said

Papagomo when he was still chummy with Najib?

You know how the game is played. PH cais (well most of them anyways) lay off when its their fav govt in power. The same can be said for others as well

Sure abg non not doing a good job but you cant believe what you say above 100% right?




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Economic crisis on going and you see the leader who earns 6figure salary complaining about shoe design. Oh boy we're screwed
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well if this Fayhsal is pm candidate for next ge I may be ok lah

we had crap like cow b4 so Fayhsal cant be that bad right?


just dont give us MB kedah or any pas
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 8 2024, 10:18 AM)
Ali Tinju, lowyat to red shirt march (heading to Petaling Street, not the original gathering) to disrupting Atuks no where to hide

PS fun fact Ali Tinju not charged over lowyat

https://theedgemalaysia.com/article/ali-tin...d-lack-evidence

Jamal Yunos..nuff said

Papagomo when he was still chummy with Najib?

You know how the game is played. PH cais (well most of them anyways) lay off when its their fav govt in power. The same can be said for others as well

Sure abg non not doing a good job but you cant believe what you say above 100% right?
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Past BN is expert engineering R&R event but it's always controllable. Everyone know gangster like Ali Tinju and Jamal Jamban are tools to attack their political opponent, not really about riling up the people and move the country towards extremism or damaging the confidence of investor. Same goes to Lowyat event, it's just an excuse to setup the Mara Digital Mall to grow their own crony(which failed miserably).

On the other hand, Madanon can't even control the action of one puny youth chief from their coalition. Let alone PuAS who succeed in their decades of "education" towards young conservative Malay. We should be grateful even PuAS not as crazy as this Akmal dude, but instead speak against him.

If you want to know the difference, just look if kucing issue any statement. Kucing normally do not meddle with such nonsense unless it went out of hand. This time kucing already issue statement multiple times and even met with KK Mart founder. Anyone with common sense will see Madanon couldn't contain the R&R issue and let it run wild because they are scare of any form of repercussion.



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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 8 2024, 09:31 AM)
Why Bijan able to tame those guys? Even Moo Moo also can despite the suffering during COVID era. Only when Madanon in power all these ultra racist become the mainstream representation of Malay sentiment?

Salahan PuAS again ke?
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Because for the first time, Malaysia is not governed by Ultra Malay/Muslim political party. There are a lot of fear in conservative Malay group, Madani hand are tide when there are religious issue pop up. Must strike a balance instead of the easy way out of sided Malay like what BN and PN did on their respective ruling era.

Not blaming PAS but they faced a similar problem from non Muslim and East Malaysia and worried become opposition forever.

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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 8 2024, 04:27 AM)
https://www.facebook.com/verns.shoes

pity business owners in malaysia.
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MCMC keluar statement but as usual will be NFA again.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/702005

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Apr 8 2024, 09:28 AM)
Moslems these days are all about clout.

Certainly not all, even my /k/ bikers gang pun tak bodoh macam ni.

For stocking case, yes it was clear cut. For Vern's case, bruh. If everything you yourself see it as such, then it has to be as such? Then I see these bunch of dimwits as low-life, short-sighted, dimwitted, classless, can?
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Economic crisis on going and you see the leader who earns 6figure salary complaining about shoe design. Oh boy we're screwed
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why PMX havent crushed this akmal
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either he really spineless

or ..he is kind of agree on this?
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QUOTE(toughguy @ Apr 8 2024, 10:48 AM)
Because for the first time, Malaysia is not governed by Ultra Malay/Muslim political party. There are a lot of fear in conservative Malay group, Madani hand are tide when there are religious issue pop up. Must strike a balance instead of the easy way out of sided Malay like what BN and PN did on their respective ruling era.

Not blaming PAS but they faced a similar problem from non Muslim and East Malaysia and worried become opposition forever.
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So you vote for a progressive party, they still gonna give into the extremist.

If only Ultra Malay/Muslim political party can tame the extremists then why not just vote PN and save the trouble?

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Is there still a clever people?
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politician all sneaky bastard 1 la ; they all "clever" ; just to make the right comment for teh "political correctness"

thats why never trust their word at all

only sohem go sembah politician like their god father

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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 8 2024, 10:43 AM)
Past BN is expert engineering R&R event but it's always controllable. Everyone know gangster like Ali Tinju and Jamal Jamban are tools to attack their political opponent, not really about riling up the people and move the country towards extremism or damaging the confidence of investor. Same goes to Lowyat event, it's just an excuse to setup the Mara Digital Mall to grow their own crony(which failed miserably).

On the other hand, Madanon can't even control the action of one puny youth chief from their coalition. Let alone PuAS who succeed in their decades of "education" towards young conservative Malay. We should be grateful even PuAS not as crazy as this Akmal dude, but instead speak against him.

If you want to know the difference, just look if kucing issue any statement. Kucing normally do not meddle with such nonsense unless it went out of hand. This time kucing already issue statement multiple times and even met with KK Mart founder. Anyone with common sense will see Madanon couldn't contain the R&R issue and let it run wild because they are scare of any form of repercussion.
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Dangerous la dude engineering this. We see the results to this day. Fine line between chaos and order. No one expert in controlling this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_attacks_...hip_in_Malaysia

Remember this? How close we were on the age back then till even KJ toned down his rhetoric. This is 2010 KJ yeah hehe

Generally i agree govt can do better now, but going back to the original conversation. It isnt because govt controls better that we see less during so and so time. I mean if you think about it for govt to control better as in ppl are afraid to start shit, they need to act harshly and firmly on actual incidents. If nothing untoward happens no incidents occurs, what to clamp down? If no clamp down, whats the evidence its controlled better? BMF was at its peak before 2020. After that the same actors changed their tune to Malaysian first. Same thing now. Forex was on some ppls lips, now.....

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Then why does PAS act like idiots?
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 8 2024, 11:04 AM)
Dangerous la dude engineering this. We see the results to this day. Fine line between chaos and order. No one expert in controlling this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_attacks_...hip_in_Malaysia

Remember this? How close we were on the age back then till even KJ toned down his rhetoric. This is 2010 KJ yeah hehe

Generally i agree govt can do better now, but going back to the original conversation. It isnt because govt controls better that we see less during so and so time. I mean if you think about it for govt to control better as in ppl are afraid to start shit, they need to act harshly and firmly on actual incidents. If nothing untoward happens no incidents occurs, what to clamp down? If no clamp down, whats the evidence its controlled better? BMF was at its peak before 2020. After that the same actors changed their tune to Malaysian first. Same thing now. Forex was on some ppls lips, now.....
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Church attack is clear cut act of violence and no political parties at that time will support such action. Nobody will gain benefit from it so it's not worth engineered.

KK mart issue on the other hand started as non violence movement of boycott. Government job should be simple - brand boycott as citizen movement and politician need to stay out of it so in case it get escalated we can handle them like Church attack (all political parties will condemn, so no further escalation or prolonged chaos). You can see Mcd and Starbuck boycott movement does not have such impact because it doesn't get escalated and no politician actively leading the movement. They just milk a bit then move on to next issue, only this Akmal guy seems to be addicted to become the champion of boycott and Madanon is enabling him.

First government failed to make their stance, then they charge KK Mart founder, then UMNO MKT declare support for Akmal's action. It end up with kucing statement multiple times and Akmal still not stopping. This is the most baffling part, Madanon not gaining any political benefits from Akaml's action yet they are afraid to move against him. This only shown the weakness of BMX and PH when come to the real taiko UMNO

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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 8 2024, 11:15 AM)
Church attack is clear cut act of violence and no political parties at that time will support such action. Nobody will gain benefit from it so it's not worth engineered.

KK mart issue on the other hand started as non violence movement of boycott. Government job should be simple - brand boycott as citizen movement and politician need to stay out of it so in case it get escalated we can handle them like Church attack (all political parties will condemn, so no further escalation or prolonged chaos). You can see Mcd and Starbuck boycott movement does not have such impact because it doesn't get escalated and no politician actively leading the movement. They just milk a bit then move on to next issue, only this Akmal guy seems to be addicted to become the champion of boycott and Madanon is enabling him.

First government failed to make their stance, then they charge KK Mart founder, then UMNO MKT declare support for Akmal's action. It end up with kucing statement multiple times and Akmal still not stopping. This is the most baffling part, Madanon not gaining any political benefits from Akaml's action yet they are afraid to move against him. This only shown the weakness of BMX and PH when come to the real taiko UMNO
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Festering lor before that. You forgot the rhetoric before hand? Thats the danger of "engineering"

Again i agree with you on govt ineptitude.

Earlier post was about the "effectiveness" of previous administrations.
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QUOTE(Lancer07 @ Apr 8 2024, 09:35 AM)
one play black face, another play red face.

why no correct own people who keep making this issue?
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Because correcting own ppl means you are going against the sentiment, so just act like dumbfk like BMX doing now. In the end he'll lose support from both side.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 8 2024, 11:19 AM)
Festering lor before that. You forgot the rhetoric before hand? Thats the danger of "engineering"

Again i agree with you on govt ineptitude.

Earlier post was about the "effectiveness" of previous administrations.
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Who festered it then? Shouldn't be BN because they are the ruling government, and PAS is still in bed with DAP that time (Pakatan Rakyat era). If it's just some random violence act from few bad apple it can be put down easily and it did.

This time it's totally different. Politician from the ruling coalition is taking helm of the movement and didn't tone down at all despite multiple violent acts. At least the past government are able to get their house in order and made a uniformed stance. In Madanon we have DAP and Akmal/UMNO fight against each other, BMX who only dare to sound after kucing, then East Malaysia, Jakim & polices who do their own things without knowing if it's government official stance.


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QUOTE(grape sunset @ Apr 8 2024, 12:16 AM)
Topkek even PN are more reasonable than dumno
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It has nothing to do with politics. JUst because one Bersatu man said so, everyone in Bersatu is like that. Same like that one dumb UNMO man laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Apr 8 2024, 12:42 AM)
Maybe that's why PAS have been keep quite because even how extreme they are, this beyond their level already or they could be not wanting their pary to involve so they just let their support let them be. Now not a single comment from them.
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They wont get Merc out of it so why bother? Lel
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Shoe logo row makes Islam look petty, says Bersatu man
PETALING JAYA: A Bersatu leader said the controversy over the design of a shoe logo, viewed as resembling the Arabic script for the word “Allah”, has made Islam “look very petty and bad”.

Wan Ahmad Fayhsal Wan Ahmad Kamal said in a post on X (formerly Twitter) that Muslims should not be so paranoid as to think that everything is a challenge to Islam.
He said: “Our actions need to be based on knowledge and not blind emotion.”

The Bersatu Youth chief compared the shoe controversy to the case of socks imprinted with the word “Allah” and said in the case of the latter, the offence was clear.
However, in the case of Vern’s shoes, there was nothing against Islamic law, he said.

On nonsense reports

Wan Fayhsal, a former deputy minister for national unity, also said the mass media should stop reporting “such nonsense” for hits. “Islam is not the religion for stupid people,” he said.

The shoe company, Vern’s Holding Sdn Bhd, has apologised for the logo design, taken steps to stop sales of the shoe, and offered refunds to customers.

The company said shortcomings in the design of the logo, imprinted on the sole, “was inspired by the image of interconnected lines resembling a high-heeled shoe” but acknowledged the shortcomings in the design that could lead to misinterpretation.

Police are currently investigating the case while officials in Johor have seized several pairs of the shoes from Vern’s shot in Johor Bahru.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ys-bersatu-man/
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 8 2024, 11:01 AM)
So you vote for a progressive party, they still gonna give into the extremist.

If only Ultra Malay/Muslim political party can tame the extremists then why not just vote PN and save the trouble?
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Everything must start somewhere. Cannot rush.
If PN can govern well, I'm willing to vote them but they proven failed on govern. Only good on religious stuffs. As non Muslim, I cannot find anything PN can do any good for me. Somemore, I don't have confident on a government that religion > everything else.
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Everything must start somewhere. Cannot rush.
If PN can govern well, I'm willing to vote them but they proven failed on govern. Only good on religious stuffs. As non Muslim, I cannot find anything PN can do any good for me.  Somemore, I don't have confident on a government that religion > everything else.
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His statement is only for benefit of his religion. It is not intended to comfort the other religions. There is no mention to stop oppressing or victimizing the minorities. So don't get too excited and start praising him.
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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Apr 8 2024, 07:50 AM)
So the question I have then, are all these paranoid people lacking the understanding of Islam?
Pls investigate which school and what are their results

Something tell me these guys that is making noise for every single thing is troublemaker in school
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You'll be surprised..

An example would be the mosque loud speaker issue. Those who makes the most ruccuss when people (because some muslim do complain about it too) are those that rarely go to mosque or pray there.
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But is it for people who love to give businesses free advertising?

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 8 2024, 11:04 AM)
Dangerous la dude engineering this. We see the results to this day. Fine line between chaos and order. No one expert in controlling this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_attacks_...hip_in_Malaysia

Remember this? How close we were on the age back then till even KJ toned down his rhetoric. This is 2010 KJ yeah hehe

Generally i agree govt can do better now, but going back to the original conversation. It isnt because govt controls better that we see less during so and so time. I mean if you think about it for govt to control better as in ppl are afraid to start shit, they need to act harshly and firmly on actual incidents. If nothing untoward happens no incidents occurs, what to clamp down? If no clamp down, whats the evidence its controlled better? BMF was at its peak before 2020. After that the same actors changed their tune to Malaysian first. Same thing now. Forex was on some ppls lips, now.....
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Last time we donr have tiktok and twitter mass usage of social media

Now every tom dick oren viral tweet
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Then why so many stupid people?
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post Apr 8 2024, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Apr 8 2024, 01:37 PM)
Last time we donr have tiktok and twitter mass usage of social media

Now every tom dick oren viral tweet
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Now this is a slippery slope. You clamp down on social media what does it lead to?
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post Apr 8 2024, 01:47 PM

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but masses are proving you wrong lol
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post Apr 8 2024, 01:51 PM

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I think if he have to purposely spell out is not for stupid people, it already shows that it is.

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QUOTE(grape sunset @ Apr 8 2024, 12:16 AM)
Topkek even PN are more reasonable than dumno
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post Apr 8 2024, 02:04 PM

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Only 713 likes. Manyak sikit.

And probably many are from Non Muslims.

Not a good sign at all.

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post Apr 8 2024, 02:07 PM

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i will repeat this again..

this show how despo PMX is with Malay votes.. and willing to let 3R issues play up...

and how confident PN is with Malay votes and they are willing to take the middle ground and try to woo non malay voters...

if nons don bother to vote.. who u think the Malays will vote for? corrupt UMNO and its allies?
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Apr 8 2024, 06:20 AM)
going to vote PN

Hope PH lose in next by election
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post Apr 8 2024, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(toughguy @ Apr 8 2024, 12:29 PM)
Everything must start somewhere. Cannot rush.
If PN can govern well, I'm willing to vote them but they proven failed on govern. Only good on religious stuffs. As non Muslim, I cannot find anything PN can do any good for me.  Somemore, I don't have confident on a government that religion > everything else.
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what difference is PH now?
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post Apr 8 2024, 02:17 PM

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For those who want to vote PN, go ahead.
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post Apr 8 2024, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(dawnreaver @ Apr 8 2024, 02:17 PM)
For those who want to vote PN, go ahead.
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As if that will makes things better.
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post Apr 8 2024, 02:19 PM

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i predict PN gonna win Peninsular in the next GE. because in previous GE, it was UMNO vs PN vs PH. so now with BNPH combining, the malays that voted for umno will throw their votes to PN. also non-malays may not vote due to fedup. biggest loser gonna be UMNO.
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post Apr 8 2024, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Apr 8 2024, 02:12 PM)
what difference is PH now?
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Raw foods such as chicken, eggs, beef etc are sufficient stocks and the price did not increase ridiculously like during PN era Raya and telor takde.
Many Ministers appear working hard in the respective ministry. At PN era, only KJ seem working, others ministries are like not functioning.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 8 2024, 02:19 PM)
As if that will makes things better.
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