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Serious Couples who are committed but not legally married, Legal complications?

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dogbert_chew
post Apr 10 2024, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Apr 4 2024, 06:16 PM)
If Im not mistaken, you cant name GF/BF as beneficiary of life insurance in malaysia.
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Can.

Insurance act 1996
dogbert_chew
post Apr 10 2024, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(keong_boy @ Apr 4 2024, 03:48 PM)
Not too sure, but if claim inheritance i think 'will' quite powerful, even more than marriage cert. I think the court will layan the 'will' > marriage cert. Lawyers will suggests you to do it, but not sure it's just because they want cari makan. But they say if no will, other parties such as children and parents have a percentage of what the decease leaves behind, if they choose to dispute, if no dispute then no issue.

But, maybe, for kwsp/perkeso/insurance, cert > will. Kwsp has nomination, but perkeso, the checklist is marriage cert to be entitled for it's benefits, as it's for "spouse and children". Not sure if a will can replace a cert in this case.

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EPF act 1991 > Will > marriage cert
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post Apr 11 2024, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Apr 10 2024, 10:03 PM)
Power of Attorney
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Adui sweat.gif . These ppl who refuse to marry or giving multiples reason not to sign a legal marriage paper, you expect them to trouble themselves with this option ?

It is an option but very least likely.
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post Apr 11 2024, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Apr 11 2024, 04:09 PM)
reason not to sign a legal marriage paper
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Religious reasons
TSEricz
post Apr 12 2024, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Apr 11 2024, 05:30 PM)
Religious reasons
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yeh exactly. Thanks bruh.
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post Apr 12 2024, 12:29 AM

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Eh just for my own curiosity, please help me understand, which religion and why?
hksgmy
post Jun 16 2024, 04:56 PM

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De facto relationships are given the same weightage in countries such as Australia and New Zealand, and similarly in Singapore - although not equivalent to marriage, the Women's Charter ensures that the woman will not be any worse off should a de facto relationship sours.
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post Jun 18 2024, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Apr 4 2024, 03:09 PM)
Nons can have kids with both the father and mother in the child’s birth cert even they are not married
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 4 2024, 04:24 PM)
my parents were not legally married but so far no issue with the birth certs,etc

a lot of old people were not legally married too so dont be surprised
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jun 18 2024, 11:00 AM)
For you i might be retard but to be honest i have no regrets. After all my GF1 already with me for so many years. Money minded or not can know already and not all but KWSP 50% to them while 50% and all the money in bank to family
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Is this proven. Does this also apply to foreigner relationship?

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post Jun 19 2024, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jun 18 2024, 11:43 PM)
Is this proven. Does this also apply to foreigner relationship?
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If you (assuming you’re Malaysian male) put your name on the birth certificate for the child, the child can be a Malaysian citizen yes.
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post Jun 19 2024, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jun 19 2024, 07:14 AM)
If you (assuming you’re Malaysian male) put your name on the birth certificate for the child, the child can be a Malaysian citizen yes.
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Can i put mother's name assume she is illegal and can i register them as Indonesian not Malaysian.
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post Jun 19 2024, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Ericz @ Apr 4 2024, 02:50 PM)
Hi all, I did not dig too much before posting.
Is anyone here in a committed relationship but not legally married in the country, and with no plans to do so, or close to anyone in this kind of relationship? (not sure if there is a term for that)

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It's called a de facto relationship
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post Jun 19 2024, 09:36 AM

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It means...no tangible commitment...

Zero responsibility...can walk out easily...
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post Jun 19 2024, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jun 19 2024, 09:21 AM)
Can i put mother's name assume she is illegal and can i register them as Indonesian not Malaysian.
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Yes
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post Jun 19 2024, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jun 18 2024, 11:43 PM)
Is this proven. Does this also apply to foreigner relationship?
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if you dont have a legal marriage cert, most likely the child will follow the citizenship of the mother, not sure the latest rules [malaysian father] are in place or not

QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jun 19 2024, 07:14 AM)
If you (assuming you’re Malaysian male) put your name on the birth certificate for the child, the child can be a Malaysian citizen yes.
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not really, without a legal marriage cert, the child follows the mother's [foreigner] citizenship, BUT, there new laws that states that child can be malaysian is father is malaysian
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post Jun 20 2024, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Jun 19 2024, 10:55 AM)
if you dont have a legal marriage cert, most likely the child will follow the citizenship of the mother, not sure the latest rules [malaysian father] are in place or not
not really, without a legal marriage cert, the child follows the mother's [foreigner] citizenship, BUT, there new laws that states that child can be malaysian is father is malaysian
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Oh? Thank you for the clarification.
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post Jun 27 2024, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Apr 4 2024, 03:09 PM)
Nons can have kids with both the father and mother in the child’s birth cert even they are not married
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you will get the (permohanan seksyen 13) on the birth cert
the child can't inherit father wealth
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post Jun 28 2024, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(AriesChai @ Jun 27 2024, 02:03 PM)
you will get the (permohanan seksyen 13) on the birth cert
the child can't inherit father wealth
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Just create a will or better if not mistaken with Amanah Raya if your will have specific requets. I plan to nominate Amanah Raya for my EPF
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post Jun 30 2024, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jun 28 2024, 01:44 AM)
Just create a will or better if not mistaken with Amanah Raya if your will have specific requets. I plan to nominate Amanah Raya for my EPF
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Amanah Raya? That’s like a public trustee, isn’t it? I thought you were going to get your sister to administer your will?
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post Jun 30 2024, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jun 30 2024, 10:50 AM)
Amanah Raya? That’s like a public trustee, isn’t it? I thought you were going to get your sister to administer your will?
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Amanah Raya might take sometimes. For now nominees will be my sister until i figure out the allocation for them. Also i will inform my sister about my will with Amanah Raya to prevent dispute. As we never know future what will happen. What if we both gone together
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post Jul 1 2024, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jun 30 2024, 02:14 PM)
Amanah Raya might take sometimes. For now nominees will be my sister until i figure out the allocation for them. Also i will inform my sister about my will with Amanah Raya to prevent dispute. As we never know future what will happen. What if we both gone together
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Good luck again, bro!

 

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