Hello all sifu..
Am asking on behalf of my bestie..
She finally got her keys to her 1st home from PR1MA..Residensi Bandar Bukit Mahkota
Now searching for ceiling fan that comes with LED light with different lighting la..so no need to install extra lights..
Which brand is good, lasting and strong wind with no noise? TIA ya..

Alpha https://www.alphamalaysia.com/ceiling-fan-c...s/axis-5b42-led

Thanks..have you use this brand before? It say use less energy but did not mention how much less...
Is this a new brand in the market..not much review on this brand though

I only installed them. Personally I use KDK sahaja. But your requirement need to combine light and fan the only good option is Alpha.

Oh ok thanks..will share with my friends..
My only concern is the brand coz not very popular in MY yet right?
Got warranty etc?

Probably you are not shopping around. The brand has been around for probably 20 years and it is the brand that can be found in most shops that sell ceiling fans I guess.

I've been using the brand along with other brand like KDK and Panasonic for about 20 years and have no problem. I have one used for dining table. Yes need to replace bulbs now and then but the fan has not failed yet. Many I just use the lighting more than the fan

Haha sorry..katak bawah tempurung ni
Is this brand made in MY?
My friend went to Home Expo also and this sales person was sharing this KHIND ceiling fans..any comment on this brand?
KDK and Panasonic..my friend said design not ok

i am using those from China, get from Taobao. So far so good.
can configure eye protecting LED, no flashing type.
Price acceptable compare to local one

It is Malaysia brand. I think Alpha water heater are highly regarded product too.
https://www.alphamalaysia.com/

Khind is another famous Malaysia brand and established like Alpha too. Don't know much about Khind fan but I think they are new to fan but I may be wrong.

If you ask me about fan, it is something fundamental. Basic fan has nothing secret about its technology. The choice would be more on the design you like and most important is if you can get the service near to your area. Most branded ones have good service networks and that is one of the reason their prices are higher than less known ones.

yup totally agreed with you..after service and warranty kinda important for me instead of the price la coz ceiling fan..will use for a very long time haha...
just remembered that my other friend installed KHIND ceiling fan when moving to their bungalow..basically they turn on the ceiling fans during the daytime and open the windows..very breeze and surprisingly quiet too..think the product name is something with Zen Air..
am sharing to other friend now haha..

Beware that having fan with built-in light will have the shadow chopping effect on the ceiling.

It can cause headaches and dizziness for some people.

KHIND ZenAir is new series from KHIND. It is using BLDC Motor, thus it is very quiet. Reliability and performance wise, I dont know as I do not have any of it.
If you are looking for any ceiling fan nowadays, go for BLDC Motor, it is normally consuming power below 40W (exclude LED Lighting option)
BLDC Motor: <40W
DC Motor: 45W to 60W
AC Motor: >60W

For remote control ceiling fan, go for those model that have Instant Start (means upon power on, no need to use remote control, the fan will start to rotate based on previous setting before power off). This is important especially for RF Remote Control, in case remote control is spoilt or lost. For IR Remote Control, you can still try to use SmartPhone App to control the fan, if needed.

RF Remote Control is better compared to IR Remote Control, as it doesnt really need direct pointing to the fan to control it.

I only use panasonic or KDK :X

Alpha and Deka offered many choices, but in term of reliability, they are always having spoilt CBB capacitor (especially AC Motor Fan, unable to control speed or the speed becomes very slow). Anyhow, the Control Board modules are easily available, and might cost around RM100 (if you know how to install), or might cost only below RM5 (if you know how to change the capacitor). Most of these fans are using China module solution.

Another brand you might try to look into is Rezo. This brand started in Malaysia market around 2019 / 2020. The price is very competitive, and it offer many models with DC Motor or BLDC Motor.
https://www.rezo.com.my/

Ceiling Fan technology changed from AC Motor to DC Motor, and now most trending one is BLDC (BrushLess DC) Motor. However, for Malaysia market, not many makers are introducing BLDC Motor as they still can generate profits from AC Motor and so called High-End Efficient DC Motor. Very soon, Malaysia will go for BLDC Motor as it is only consuming 50% energy (energy saving) compared to conventional AC Motor.

Another bad point for AC Motor, upon aging, it will produce black powder as it is using carbon brush (small part of the motor that conducts electrical current between the stator and the rotor of a motor). It is consumable parts and will wear-out in time.

General Guidelines:
AC Motor Fan: RM80 to RM200, Power Consumption: > 60W
DC Motor Fan: RM200 to RM400, Power Consumption: 45W to 60W
BLDC Motor Fan: > RM400, Power Consumption: <40W (as low as 28W)

Panasonic or KDK are produces from same factory, only brand name different, performance and functions are the same.
Undeniable, its quality is good and reliable. However, for Malaysia market, they are still selling at high price, especially for DC Motor or BLDC Motor.

Depends on your budget, you can choose Panasonic / KDK BLDC motor fan or lower price range local brands BLDC motor fan.
Main point is energy saving (50% lesser).

FYI, ceiling fan is among top 3 power consumming electrical appliances in Malaysia.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/27...mxpY2F0aW9uIn19



This post has been edited by gosleo: Mar 22 2024, 09:57 AM

Thanks for the info, my tnb bill only around RM40, thinking if change my fan to DC, maybe can save moar

DC fan also offers more speed setting and reverse function i think. my Alpha DC fans all have 6 speeds, but I usually only use up to 4 at most, or 5 if really hot. the wind is already strong enough

In my 30+ years of working with electricity, every A/C fan motor I have come across have been Induction Motors without carbon brushes, I have yet to see an A/C ceiling fan with a universal motor till today. Could you please name me one model that uses universal motors?

Thanks for sharing, but I couldn't imagine ceiling fan consumption lagi tinggi daripada peti sejuk?!

Maybe can consider KHIND? I think it matches the criteria you want perfectly, it has LED light & has low noise operation due to BLDC. Varies in colours too.

Yes you are right.

The bad capacitor can be due to AC spike in your house or reverse voltage produced by the fan coil. Usually it considered at 2x AC voltage but most capacitor in shop has rating of 450V. If you can find the 500V, then it would have longer lifetime.

using this china type, 2 years already no problem

Boss, you sure you supposed to reply to me?
I'm calling out that other poster who sounds like a salesperson trying to promote their D/C fans, and so they are spreading bad information about A/C fans to confuse people.

Hi bro, thanks for correcting me. I am trying to learn on types of motor.

AC Motor: Induction Motor
DC Motor: Brushed DC Motor (with Carbon Brush?)
BLDC Motor: Brushless DC Motor
Correct me if I was wrong. Thanks.

I was seeing a pump motor in water heater using carbon brush, thus I thought it was AC motor, and thinking of similar motor was used in ceiling fan.

I am not seller / representative of any BLDC Ceiling Fan brand. I see many countries started to use BLDC Ceiling Fan, but Malaysia market still very slow in promoting BLDC Ceiling Fan (and set it at high price range), thus I did a study on the energy consumption and trying to understand the benefits of using BLDC Motor. For India market, they can sell a BLDC Ceiling Fan below MYR$200, with bi-directional rotation and speed up to 400rpm (5-Star Energy rating set at <35W @ 350rpm). While Malaysia ceiling fan generally set rotation speed between 90rpm to 300rpm (up to 80W, depends on types of motor used).

Let's continue discussion and share knowledge. Thank you.

Then you shouldn't have made the statement like you are an expert at it. You create FUD for readers when you post misinformation, considering that the TS is trying to get information about ceiling fans.

But here's the thing - I don't think you are a layperson learning and contributing.A layperson only thinks of the capacitor that controls the fan speed, while you know to say the type "CBB" capacitors.

Bro, you must be strong supporter of AC Fan. No offence, AC Fan is cheap and function as it is.

Sorry, I said I am learner on types of motor, doesn't means I dont know about basic electronics.

I know about "CBB" capacitor because I fixed it before, not to mention such info is available online easily.






I shall stop here. Thanks for your comments.

This post has been edited by gosleo: Mar 28 2024, 02:07 PM

Nope, this is not about me. Since I correct the misinformation, I am a supporter of A/C motor fan? That's the logic of a 5 y.o.

Impressive pictures! Since you already opened a fan to make repairs, how many carbon brushes did you find? Was it the same as the water pump that had carbon brushes in the heater that you looked at?

Feel free to reply, but I'm going to get back on topic for any further addition to this thread.

Not commenting on you buy support your understanding and add my additional point only. At least you know what you were talking about

Yes am looking at KHIND ZenAir 56" one now coz saw the banner earlier..got promo from RM 800++ to RM 500++ and can pay with instalment also..good deal since can save 50% electricity plus with 3 different lighting and also comes with warranty
This one suits my bestie requirement la so far...
Thanks all for the info

Thanks..look nice but angin kuat or not?
Also got warranty?

I had 1 baby fan from NSB, entering 3 years still function well.

https://www.nsb.com.my/index.php?ws=showpro...an#openproducts

kuat for apartment ceiling height

"There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, damned lies, and statistics." I decided to read the "research paper" quoted, and unfortunately I found some discrepancies. I post an image without any text edits, but with it slightly shortened.



I can't get the numbers quoted by the author of the paper. Please decide for yourself if the data can be trusted.
Any mistakes in the post are my own. Please correct me if you find any.