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SUSKaya Butter Toast
post Mar 5 2024, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(dckm @ Mar 5 2024, 07:46 PM)
so you gave me a growing as a characteristic but a feotus that grows is not a living thing. so what is your criteria actually? we haven’t even laid down a strict definition and you want to jump to rights and murder already.
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Simple. As long it's not out of the womb, not a human.

How hard is it?

Rights of the living is more important.

Are you one of those people membiak with 0 consequences?

Not everyone wish to be born you know.
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post Mar 5 2024, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Mar 5 2024, 07:52 PM)
Simple. As long it's not out of the womb, not a human.

How hard is it?

Rights of the living is more important.

Are you one of those people membiak with 0 consequences?

Not everyone wish to be born you know.
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you’ve gone now from ‘living thing’ to ‘human’ which is a completely different argument. are you still maintaining that a feotus is not a living being?
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post Mar 5 2024, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Mar 5 2024, 06:19 PM)
eveyone is so anti abortion until accidentally get or get someone pregnant

then go back alley find illegal, unsafe way to cabut

at least in france is legal
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It has been legal in France since the 70's. We're not talking about banning abortion. If you want to abort, you can in France.

We're talking amending the damn constitution to make it a right. It is overkill and make it seems like going to abortion so common as walking in the park.

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post Mar 5 2024, 08:19 PM

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Great new! But France is expensive. Asia got ? Cheaper

This post has been edited by Koranshita: Mar 5 2024, 08:20 PM
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post Mar 5 2024, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(seather @ Mar 5 2024, 02:36 PM)
one extreme - slut abort willy nilly cause she likes to sleep around

the other extreme - underage victim denied abortion after being raped by father and the pregnancy will endanger her life

the internut really like to bring out both extremes. u two gangs sud get a room and have a FFA orgy + fight
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The problem is it's only the extremes who have a voice even irl
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post Mar 5 2024, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 5 2024, 08:16 PM)
It has been legal in France since the 70's. We're not talking about banning abortion. If you want to abort, you can in France.

We're talking amending the damn constitution to make it a right. It is overkill and make it seems like going to abortion so common as walking in the park.
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Legality and constitutional is different I know

But why France did it was the same reason the US should have done it

The right wing are always gunning to remove abortion rights, and in the US they managed to do just that.

Raped people need to travel to different states to get abortion there now, even a 9 year old.

What france did was to make sure the legality of it is enshrined in the constitution as a constitutional amendment is much harder to pass through than a legality change

It doesn't change the frequency of abortion, it will stay the same, it just secures its access in the future when a fascist wins the presidency
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post Mar 5 2024, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(dckm @ Mar 5 2024, 08:07 PM)
you’ve gone now from ‘living thing’ to ‘human’ which is a completely different argument. are you still maintaining that a feotus is not a living being?
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Yes.
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post Mar 5 2024, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Mar 5 2024, 08:36 PM)
Yes.
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and yet you still can’t define what a living thing is. I only hope you approach the rest of the things in your life with more rigour.
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post Mar 5 2024, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(dckm @ Mar 5 2024, 08:41 PM)
and yet you still can’t define what a living thing is. I only hope you approach the rest of the things in your life with more rigour.
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I just gave you the definition.

If you think a clump of cells are a living being, I suggest you don't waste your sperm.


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post Mar 5 2024, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Mar 5 2024, 08:24 PM)
Legality and constitutional is different I know

But why France did it was the same reason the US should have done it

The right wing are always gunning to remove abortion rights, and in the US they managed to do just that.

Raped people need to travel to different states to get abortion there now, even a 9 year old.

What france did was to make sure the legality of it is enshrined in the constitution as a constitutional amendment is much harder to pass through than a legality change

It doesn't change the frequency of abortion, it will stay the same, it just secures its access in the future when a fascist wins the presidency
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Abortion has never been challenged in France since the 70's. In fact they have kept expanding it. They don't need to amend the constitution for this. It was done to circumvent any one even trying to question it.

I don't see them amending the constitution for prostitution? Why is that? Woman have a right to choose their profession is it not? Anyway, I'm just mad that they touch the constitution for this. It is very unnecessary and make it like as important as right to vote.

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post Mar 5 2024, 08:51 PM

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Would rather kids not brought into a life unwanted by their mothers.
A woman who keep aborting will eventually unable to bear one anymore anyway
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post Mar 5 2024, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Mar 5 2024, 08:47 PM)
I just gave you the definition.

If you think a clump of cells are a living being, I suggest you don't waste your sperm.
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Are you involved in abortion-related business ? just asking

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post Mar 5 2024, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Mar 5 2024, 08:47 PM)
I just gave you the definition.

If you think a clump of cells are a living being, I suggest you don't waste your sperm.
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and your definition does not fit the behaviour of a feotus.
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Mar 5 2024, 10:16 AM)
You rather have kes buang bayi or orphans?
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Aaand those who champion baby rights ain't gonna do shit on solving abandoned baby problems
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 5 2024, 08:48 PM)
Abortion has never been challenged in France since the 70's. In fact they have kept expanding it. They don't need to amend the constitution for this. It was done to circumvent any one even trying to question it.

I don't see them amending the constitution for prostitution? Why is that? Woman have a right to choose their profession is it not? Anyway, I'm just mad that they touch the constitution for this. It is very unnecessary and make it like as important as right to vote.
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hahahahahahaha cute
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post Mar 5 2024, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Mar 5 2024, 08:55 PM)
Aaand those who champion baby rights ain't gonna do shit on solving abandoned baby problems
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Shhhhh don't la call them out like that. Wanna see if any argue until kena sus
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post Mar 5 2024, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Mar 5 2024, 09:30 PM)
Shhhhh don't la call them out like that. Wanna see if any argue until kena sus
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Abortion has never been banned in France you knumbskull. You can abort puas2 in France even before they amend the constitution.

And there is no abandoned baby in France since abortion is legal right?
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post Mar 5 2024, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Mar 5 2024, 09:37 PM)
Abortion has never been banned in France you knumbskull. You can abort puas2 in France even before they amend the constitution.

And there is no abandoned baby in France since abortion is legal right?
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Retardation started already so fast

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