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babylon52281
post Feb 24 2024, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Minimalist2022 @ Feb 23 2024, 10:03 PM)
Hi, Sifus. Please help me on this.

Recently I decided to upgrade my GPU, so I bought a second-hand RTX 3080 (MSI Ventus 3X 10G). When I first installed, it was working nicely. I left my PC on and then went for my job.

When I returned, the PC was shut down. I could not turn it on anymore. I swapped my old GPU back, and the PC turns on again.

I assumed it was a PSU problem (previously it was a Corsair CV 550) with lacking power, so I decided to get a new PSU (upgraded to Corsair RM750e). Tried it out, the problem still persisted with only the new GPU.

I reset my CMOS, uninstalled drivers, tested one by one but no luck.

For more description, I press the power button, but no fans spun, there is no sound.

Here are my specs:
Intel i5 10400F
HyperX 32GB (4x8) DDR4 2666 MHz
MSI GTX 980 -> MSI Ventus 3x RTX 3080 10G
Gigabyte B460M DS3H V2 (with latest bios)
Corsair CV 550 -> Corsair RM750e
Seagate Barracuda 500GB

I have contacted the seller but right now it is out of working hours, so perhaps you can provide me an insight. Thanks.
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Adoi, 3080 required min 700W PSU and in practical needs about 850-1000W due to 30series transient spike. Somemore CV550W unit is D tier, totally not Not NOT! suited for a high powered GPU in 3070-3080 segment. Ur lucky that puny 550W unit did not fry, or perhaps it did and took down ur GPU as well.

Even that RM750e is barely boleh pakai, your taking a chance there if still getting another 3080. Up it to a 850W A tier at least.

PS when you go high end your gotta make sure the other components can support it too

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post Feb 24 2024, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Minimalist2022 @ Feb 24 2024, 01:22 PM)
Thanks for the advice but I have to disagree with this. It's not a no-brand power supply, could you explain why it will "take down" my GPU? Surely, at most if not enough power it will just shut down the entire thing. But I agree it is inadequate, so I decided to change it. I followed Nvidia recommended minimum power at 750W, and RMx is an A-tier PSU.
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Trusting a brandname to be consistent is a real fallacy which most companies hope their customer to blindly rely on. This is why the PSU Tier List exist.

While Corsair higher end PSU are good quality stuff their basic & cheaper options are really just budget stuff with Corsair name tacked on. Your CV550 is a D tier rated unit only suited for igpu builds and you shoved a 3080 into it. LOL

Transient on 30series is a well documented issue and GN had done an indepth review on it


You can disgree but GN is a well trusted PC hardware reviewer and they present facts to back that up

A 3080 has transient that draws nearly the whole capacity of your 550W unit (which actually has a real capacity of 528W), what about the others like CPU, Mobo, RAM, fans & storage?
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And this is what GN deduced from their investigation; the trip happen on the 12V which triggered OCP
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Now see, good PSUs has good & complete protection. Cheap & budget PSUs typically lack full coverage and even if it stated to have OCP it may not be fully effective and overcurrent in the 12V rails could have passed on. Guess what, your GPU 8pin supply is directly connected to the PSU 12V rails.

This is the wattage unit GN reco to use. So its needed nearly 50% more than your 550W unit could handle!
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Yes, you gotten a 750W A tier PSU but thats only AFTER shit happen isnt it? Its likely your GPU is ady killed before you upgrade to the 750W. And this is the bare minimum that GN recos you havent factored in if you will upgrade anything in the future or that PSU ages and thus its ability to handle "real" 750W will deteriorate with time. Mate, if you can afford a 750W A tier PSU, an 850W A tier unit isnt that much more costly.

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post Feb 24 2024, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Feb 24 2024, 01:29 PM)
u are right, totally nonsense.
no psu design to break when 100%
and GPU not always run on full power mode.

even NVIDIA official didnt say u need 850w for 3080

his opinion is inaccurate
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Its between your words and GN. And far more in the internet community trust GN.
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post Feb 25 2024, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(kopiride @ Feb 24 2024, 07:15 PM)
I agree with this. But some people really still don't believe because it works for them. They proof that, hey I use some lower powered GPU and no issue it works. Well, it works until it didn't. Then they will be wondering why it died. It's hard to convince them but glad u made an effort.
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People come here should get the right info, not just listen to someone who claim others is nonsense or inaccurate without facts to counter but if people willing to go holland despite that then I can only say its on them and I feel sorry.
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post Mar 17 2024, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(Minimalist2022 @ Mar 17 2024, 09:27 AM)
Right, an update. This is for the first GPU. I tried on another system (borrowed a friend's unused one). For the first few times, no fans spun, then after that, I could see sparks. No lights on the mobo to indicate anything... which is quite disappointing.

The second one ran for 2 hours+ (this is on the 750W PSU) before the system shuts down again (and wouldnt work as long as its with the 3080). Returning it again for either an exchange or refund, but honestly I dont know if I want to exchange for another unit as I dont know what the actual problem is.
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Didnt I told you your GPU is likely killed dy? Its in the last sentence in mine quoted that you replied back. Now maybe even your friend PC might have something due to it. Tuu lah dont be so stubborn when people give advice.
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post Mar 17 2024, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Minimalist2022 @ Mar 17 2024, 10:58 AM)
Yeah you are right about that, but how about the second? I was not stubborn, I only disagreed but was waiting for the explanation. Not sure how you concluded that I did not want to listen when I already replied that I understood what you were conveying later. And no my friend's PC was not affected, because as I have said its an old one.

Anyway, I finally had some time to sit down and check about these shutdown issues. It seems that even at 850W, people reported shutdowns. That's a concern. So what is the safest? 1000W? 1200W? I am still yet to know why the GPU can "die" when others said they only needed to turn off and on the PSU for a reset.
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I long gave up your case dy. You want to continue killing hardware because what happening did not suit your understanding, then go ahead laa. I dunno what to say you anymore.
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post Mar 19 2024, 08:36 AM

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This is a good advice for those who think they know their right but its not
https://hwbusters.com/freestyle/thats-why-w...think-you-need/

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