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lee_lnh
post Feb 26 2024, 12:05 AM

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BYD if u keep on tekan high speed 160kmh max can go 150km only right?
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post Feb 26 2024, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Feb 25 2024, 07:58 PM)
Heavier car is more stable at high speed as you need more forces to sway its momentum.

Also when big car and small car collide, the damages are usually worse on the small car.
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Feb 25 2024, 08:09 PM)
Generally yes. But EV is already heavy enough with the battery packs at the bottom so the centre of gravity is much lower Vs ICE and hence stable enough. Ppl already tried without problem driving at 200kmh on NSE for the model 3.
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Aerodynamics is also a factor in car stability at high speed, ie not just heavier car weight which needs more energy to move, ie energy either from petrol/diesel for ICE-V or from battery for EV. Hence Tesla M3, BYD Seal, Honda Civic, Proton S7, etc have sleek aerodynamics or design. .......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downforce
Downforce is a downwards lift force created by the aerodynamic features of a vehicle. If the vehicle is a car, the purpose of downforce is to allow the car to travel faster by increasing the vertical force on the tires, thus creating more grip. If the vehicle is a fixed-wing aircraft, the purpose of the downforce on the horizontal stabilizer is to maintain longitudinal stability and allow the pilot to control the aircraft in pitch.

Fundamental principles
The same principle that allows an airplane to rise off the ground by creating lift from its wings is used in reverse to apply force that presses the race car against the surface of the track. This effect is referred to as "aerodynamic grip" and is distinguished from "mechanical grip", which is a function of the car's mass, tires, and suspension. ...

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post Feb 26 2024, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 25 2024, 08:24 PM)
oh not heavy enough for you?
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Not heavy cz level IQ not same
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post Feb 26 2024, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Feb 25 2024, 08:29 PM)
Not enough. Cybertruck over 3000kg, and yet it outrun Porsche 911 while towing another 911.

Talk about power to weight ratio.
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Here we talk about these 2 cars, now come out with another 2 other model lol
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post Feb 26 2024, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(lee_lnh @ Feb 26 2024, 12:05 AM)
BYD if u keep on tekan high speed 160kmh max can go 150km only right?
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Wrong. 100km.
Many people didn't realise this until after they bought the car, they realize they need to drive at 90kph at highway to get their expected range, hogging the middle lane together with all the big ass spoiler modified wiras.
My Alza can go further at 160kmph.
EVs are a joke right now. Their efficiency drops down the ravine the moment they go above 60kph.
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post Feb 26 2024, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Feb 26 2024, 10:36 AM)
Wrong. 100km.
Many people didn't realise this until after they bought the car, they realize they need to drive at 90kph at highway to get their expected range, hogging the middle lane together with all the big ass spoiler modified wiras.
My Alza can go further at 160kmph.
EVs are a joke right now. Their efficiency drops down the ravine the moment they go above 60kph.
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civic ehev 2.0 40L petrol tank also can go 400km if consistently drive 160kmh lul
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post Feb 26 2024, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(lee_lnh @ Feb 26 2024, 11:22 AM)
civic ehev 2.0 40L petrol tank also can go 400km if consistently drive 160kmh lul
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Go compare the energy density of dinosaur juice vs LiPo battery and you’ll know the answer.
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post Feb 26 2024, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ Feb 22 2024, 11:09 AM)
15 hours charging with normal wall charger wtf
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lol forever in car park collect dust
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post Feb 26 2024, 11:43 AM

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If new bateri tech or some whatever new tech that will improve EV range comes out down the line lets say in 3-5 years,

Everything on the market or in your hand right now is going to be redundant = worth nothing anymore.
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post Feb 26 2024, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Feb 26 2024, 11:29 AM)
Go compare the energy density of dinosaur juice vs LiPo battery and you’ll know the answer.
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why care about energy density, the heavy lovers geng here don't mind it being more heavy than hailat, 3000kg oso no problems for them as long as it brake better
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post Mar 25 2024, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Feb 22 2024, 12:34 PM)
Now is not the time to buy EVs.

EVs are going through deflation.
Price wars from manufacturers are driving prices down.
Buyers are waiting for more price cuts.
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BUT, once the tax exemption for EV habis end of 2025, it will become way more expensive than it is now.
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post Mar 25 2024, 05:25 AM

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QUOTE(Kar Weng @ Mar 25 2024, 12:35 AM)
BUT, once the tax exemption for EV habis end of 2025, it will become way more expensive than it is now.
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EV tech keep on upgrading and new technology run faster than general ICE car. Next future with more battery tech, same sizes battery will gets higher mileage for instant. And best is, the pricing of EV keep getting cheaper, thanks to China car EV. Remember 2 years ago Kia EV6 cost almost 300k, only those T20 with T20 number plate owned it. Nowadays BYD Suv car plenty on the road.

Cons on EV here that we yet to know the direction. Roadtax following EV car power? Confirm already?

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post Mar 25 2024, 05:46 AM

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EV cars are not suitable for someone that have Anxiety, Panic Attack or overthinking.

Same goes to Bimbo woman. Even the ICE cars that we are using right now, we can see a lot of bimbo woman keep making mistake of refueling using Diesel and forgot to refuel their cars.

I can see the same with EV cars.
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post Mar 30 2024, 10:48 PM

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Fyi, .......

user posted image - BYD Seal
user posted image - Tesla Model 3
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BYD Seal is a copycat of Tesla Model 3.

In China, the BYD Seal EV car sells for CNY180k = US$25k, whereas the Tesla Model 3 EV car sells for US$39k in USA and CNY246k = US$34k in China.

So, a M40 in CCP China buying the BYD Seal EV car is like him/her having bought a Tesla Model 3 EV car = "got face" to go ya-ya around in his/her "Tesla" car.
....... CCP China can do this because they know it's unlikely that Tesla (or Porsche or Ferrari or Rolls Royce) will mount an IP lawsuit in China.

Similarly for a wumao M40 in Malaysia buying the BYD Seal EV car or other similar high-end CCP China copycat cars in Malaysia at around two-third to half the price of the original.

The reason for such a behaviour in CCP China .......

https://unbelievable-facts.com/2024/02/how-...pycat-cars.html - HOW IS CHINA ABLE TO SELL COPYCAT CARS? - 29 Feb 2024
If you are a relatively wealthy person in China, you can own a luxury car like a Rolls Royce or a Ferrari. It’s not a real one, European-made, but a copycat car that looks like the original. Whichever corner of the world we might be in, there is no escape from at least one, if not multiple, products with the label “Made in China ” in our everyday lives.

China, also called the “World’s Factory,” is not just the biggest manufacturer in the world but also notoriously famous for producing knockoff versions of a large number of Western products with ridiculously similar names! Deats headphones (a play on “Beats”), Michaelsoft Binbows (heard of “Microsoft Windows”?), Mike (rhyming with “Nike”), and the list goes on. But it doesn’t just stop at consumer goods.

China also manufactures a huge number of copycat cars that look and feel almost identical to their original designs. From copies of Rolls Royce, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, and Mini Coopers to Ford Ecosport, Hummer, and Toyota Yaris, the market for these Chinese copycat cars is immense!

This brings us to an extremely valid question. Is it even legal? Let us dig deeper into this story. ...
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When was the start of the flourishing copycat car industry in China?
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Although quite impressively replicated in designs, the quality and engine power of the copycat cars are usually significantly low. But the buyers love the fact that they can afford and own a car that looks as luxurious as a Rolls Royce or a Ferrari.

Most of the original luxury Western cars are expensive and come with a huge import tariff. But the Chinese knockoff cars cost a fraction of the originals. The copycat car industry soon started to grow at a rapid rate. ...
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How does China legally get away with its copycat car market?

China has very relaxed laws regarding intellectual and design copyrights. With cars, it is always a challenge to prove a design is unique when it is mostly a variation in curves or lines. This results in very few successful legal cases against Chinese manufacturers.

However, the exterior design of a car is protected under many legal schemes, like unfair competition, design patents, copyright infringement, etc. Usually, if companies lose under one scheme, they may win under another. This may finally be good news for the original manufacturers.

So, how does one protect their intellectual property (IP) rights? Protecting design rights is the most important aspect of an IP regarding cars. According to the law, it is entirely on the owner of the IP to enforce the rights, and if he doesn’t do so, then there is not much the law can do.

But the IP rights are always jurisdictional, and therefore, if a manufacturer has an IP right in the US or Europe, it doesn’t necessarily mean that China needs to abide by this, too. ....

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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Mar 30 2024, 10:52 PM

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