Me buying a spare/backup motor... probably going to use it for daily use to work, easier to cilok2 than my Kawasaki Vulcan S...

Some have rekomended scooter, but finally i think kapcai still preferable... anywhere in Sabah can repair... plus roads in Sabah nokHaroommm...

So it comes down to these two choices...

Price in KK, Sabah after survey several dealers:

- Honda Wave Alpha 110i = RM5700 OTR
- SYM Sport Rider 125i = RM5750 OTR

both new and ready stock...

Any input/views/comments/experience to share?

Note: me maybe keeping the Vulcan for now...
(posted same topic biker base - but no one there)

UPDATE (11/03/2024):

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Mar 12 2024, 10:06 AM

Wave alpha

Sym 110

SM 110

Wmoto 110

https://intiderasmotors.easy.co/collections/moped

This post has been edited by B0ss_ku: Feb 18 2024, 03:16 PM

Syamsul Yang Menunggang the best in terms of name

Can't go wrong with Jap

This post has been edited by Chisinlouz: Feb 18 2024, 03:16 PM

Honda is good...
But lower cc... 110i vs 125i...
a dilemma...

is SYM really bad? i thought they somewhat established brand already...?

i got the price from Best Bike KK and another shop in Kolombong area...

difference RM50...

just my opinian here

ill get SYM Sport Rider 125i = RM5750 OTR
between the two la

gotten a honda wave 125fi b4 very bad engine...main piston neck problem after finish warranty aka20k km


btw i am using modenas mr3 disc brake as of now
been using for few years liao gonna reach 99999km on the odometer soon lol

This post has been edited by poco loco: Feb 18 2024, 03:34 PM

Just go with Honda Wave.. smaller CC does not mean much since both are still kapcai, so might as well go for Honda, easier to find parts and should be of better quality than that SYM..

Those 2 bikes are build to go 80-100kmh at best so that 15cc difference does not mean much..

Never ever buy motor made in china.

did u mean wave 125i?there is no Honda wave with 120cc, just Modenas..

I personally uses older Honda Wave 125x for work purpose, 60km daily return trip... so far so good

am using alpha wave 110…excellent fuel economy ( but tank small…) travel 150km per tank…no problem sofar, speed about 80-85km / hr max…seat a little stiff, bike designed for average sized asian…

ya wave125i

MR3 ftw...

Wave 125i uses same engine for Honda Future 125i.. Those should be a solid engine, so if U say U get connecting rod problem after 20k km, it may due to engine oil distribution problems.. My way of using my bikes, I always change engine oil earlier than recommended so all my bikes runs like a champ even those modified ones..

Max speed difference probably is little. Back to practically both is about same. Service n parts is important

Wadepak kapcai 110cc almost 6k?

bro, 160cc rm11k +…
prices are high…scooters are high in prices too if i am not wrong

Sabah price...

Got also kapcai below RM4k... for example - the SM 110, drum brakes... also got the WMMOTO one
but quality still to be seen... got a Sabahan Youtuber gila one ride that bike from Sandakan to Kota Kinabalu via the moon crater roads and through the Crocker range...





This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Feb 18 2024, 04:16 PM

Good pickup or not from stop at traffic light? me not prioritize speed.

me is fat ass... 135kg now with 1.8M height...
now Im using a rented Yangmahal Lagenda 115... quite ok for commuting... got pickup also... can go around 85km max with me on it...

(rented because my Vulcan S is in workshop, gear suddenly got issue after 9 years of using, now waiting for parts for +/- 3 weeks.. damn)

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Feb 18 2024, 04:13 PM

if you’re looking for kapcai pickup, ok la… but for your size, go for y15/16 ( but clutch la)… i find the alpha seat not comfortable…if you’re looking at clutchless, lc135 should be a better ride..(but budget higher)… else try the wave 125fi…i heard has better seat and larger fuel tank

ya wave seat veli big and comfi
storage can sumbat whole helmet in...those sgv helmet

Ive surveyed the Wave 125i also - cost RM7600 cash OTR in KK.
hmmm... but my budget is below RM6000.... so onli options I see now is the Wave 110i vs SYM 125i sport rider...
(both RM5700+/-... the extra RM300, i want to buy givi and its bracket)

i bought brand new still got problem...guess i gotten lemon unit...nasib baik sold it away liao

125 and 110 not much different

wave 110. easy parts, probably still floating around in market in next 100 years.

but if you ask for best, better go for wave 125. its a cargo truck of kapcai world.

in KK, price difference between Wave 110i (RM5700) vs Wave 125i (RM7600) - is RM1900~ -.-
if really not much difference and can get around comfortably in city area at 80km+/- perhour (taking into consideration my fat 135kg weight)...

Maybe Wave 110i is good and extra RM1900 is not justified~

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Feb 18 2024, 07:49 PM

Why never consider Yamaha EZ115

because in Sabah, that thing new is over RM7k...
my budget is just RM6k...

Im currently renting Yangmahal Lagenda 115 for 1 month... its quite good, no doubt.

Just get a 2nd hand Honda Wave 125i, same price point. Plenty of underseat storage, 125cc engine, full disc brakes.

Agreed on this.. if TS is okay with used bike, that Wave 125 or even Yamaha FZ150/LC135 can be bought with that budget..

I faced similar 'dilemma' before, that was in 2018. Contemplating to get new moped. Was given similar advice by my friend. Bought Wave 125i (2017) for significant price reduction compared to new & similar price for a new unit but lesser model.

Had been using it to go to pasar malam / running errands. Zero issues. Mileage just touching 14,000km.

In my case, I need a "standard" moped to replace my modded one as daily workhorse.. Heck I spend way less than TS for a used old Wave 125x, just RM1800 used.. but that bike is solid enough to be used as my daily work moped, able to maintain 80-100 kmh speed for my 60km trip distance daily..

Ive surveyed current 2nd hand market for Wave 125i in Sabah, none is selling... maybe its very good that no one wants to sell...
if worse comes to worst... I'll get the wave 110i instead...

i need a reliable backup motorcycle...~ if max speed 80km/h also, i have no issue for going back-forth to work in KK area...
(just that if pickup is lousy, maybe i have to change to larger back sprocket for the wave 110i)

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Feb 18 2024, 09:23 PM

RS used can get rm3k...oh wait...kk +50% more

try cabut bateri dulu. tengok boleh start tak.

if this 2, go for wave alpha...many negative feedback on that sym sport rider...

or for that price...

yamaha ez115

tak boleh hidup boss sebab fuel injection kena ada bateri lol...

kalo model carb boleh la

bateri low mati la.

Is it easy to get SYM spare parts in Sabah?

i mean between honda wave 110 and sym 125

Topup a bit can get katana

Top up abit buy honda dash 125fi.

i don't like Honda anymore quality have dropped. previous owner of Wave 110 & 125 tak la power.
SYM never try before no comment.

if come with these amois sure power gila.

This post has been edited by quintesson: Feb 20 2024, 10:41 PM

i think these pictures are for old model… new model should have 125i emblem and front left has FI logo…
in KL, all new models are FI..

So OP what models did you end up getting now in March 2024?

I got a 2nd-hand 2020 Honda Dash 125i for RM3000 instead... gooding... considering new will cost me RM8k +/-...
Nice backup for my other bike.

good choice.
I was going to suggest scooter. very easy to ride just pulas minyak and go.
But tires small, sabah road so bad ah?

Yep... Sabah roads are terrible... I too was considering a scooter... but I reconsidered because not all places have scooter parts and can repair scooters...
Safer option is indeed a Kapcai with standard tires...

Oh... I got my 2nd-hand motorcycle from an auction actually... I bid, I won.... starting price was only RM1500 for the Dash 125i... I outbid others (my main competitors were motorcycle workshops)... so I got it for RM3000~ minor repairs cost me additional RM300... all in all I still think well worth my money~

Here is the company that auctions bike in Sabah - just look at the starting bids for motorcycle -

https://www.facebook.com/100095547283527/vi...743835219470592

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Mar 12 2024, 12:34 AM

I am thinking of getting a new SM Sport 110 E or R, SM motorbike is Malaysia brand one right?

Congrats man, enjoy your new ride in good spirits

wow i never thought of biding

better you save your money… don’t go and get a bigger bike… who knows where your next destination may be, on your next impulse!!..( how’s the dun burn getting along?)..

not a fan of big bike


sunburn all heal up liao thx

MR3 = motor rakyat hhnngghhhh

SM Sport seems ok also. A lot of this bike being used in rural Sabah by farmers and kampung folks, quite tahan lasak. Practical also in rural areas, cheap to maintain and repair.