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alexei
post Aug 13 2025, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Aug 13 2025, 12:28 AM)
Hahaha..really wish i could the akra carbon underbody full system. But what are the actual difference between uturn pipe and a straight pipe besides the sound.
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the thing that dampens exhaust noise is the mid pipe, not the muffler
if you get the stock mid pipe, cut off the end, and add an original Akra muffler, it won't be loud also
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post Aug 13 2025, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 13 2025, 09:42 AM)
the thing that dampens exhaust noise is the mid pipe, not the muffler
if you get the stock mid pipe, cut off the end, and add an original Akra muffler, it won't be loud also
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Thanks for the share. Been actually browsing the net fr the answer. Some was saying about increasing back pressure
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post Aug 13 2025, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Aug 13 2025, 10:44 AM)
Thanks for the share. Been actually browsing the net fr the answer. Some was saying about increasing back pressure
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For MT07, the stock cat is not good for airflow

sos: https://www.fz07.org/thread/10460/drilling-...-stock-exhaust/
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got ppl operate it and do S-flow bypass

on a 4 stroke engine, back pressure is never a good thing
it's actually very necessary on a 2 stroke engine

the U-turn manifold adds length to the secondary header
from Akra website, the U-turn system gives more power than the standard underbelly system


jaycee1
post Aug 15 2025, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 13 2025, 03:12 PM)
For MT07, the stock cat is not good for airflow

sos: https://www.fz07.org/thread/10460/drilling-...-stock-exhaust/
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got ppl operate it and do S-flow bypass

on a 4 stroke engine, back pressure is never a good thing
it's actually very necessary on a 2 stroke engine

the U-turn manifold adds length to the secondary header
from Akra website, the U-turn system gives more power than the standard underbelly system
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No engine benefits from back pressure. Even 2 strokes. But I get where you are coming from. The expansion chamber is a tuned pipe to channel exhaust pulses to the combustion charge from flowing out too easily, the opposite of scavenging for a 4 stroke.

But its easy to make the mistake putting on a too free flowing exhaust and sacrificing exhaust velocity. Which is why the S/U midpipes are there for, the longer running length exhaust promotes or maintains exhaust velocity.

Symptoms of a reduction in exhaust velocity is poorer scavenging leading to less efficient burn and a possible noticeable drop in engine response and torque.

Just know that exhaust systems diameter, design and lenghts are "tuned" by the manufacturer to give a particular powerband. Changing such will also change the powerband and may run afoul of the stock tuning.
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post Aug 15 2025, 11:20 AM

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post Aug 15 2025, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 15 2025, 11:20 AM)
there's a phase where 2 stroke engine needs back pressure, and some of the phases overlap
4 stroke have some of that phases, too

those intake and exhaust pulses are considered both as pressure waves and frequency waves, so tuning an exhaust (as part of the overall intake to exhaust) is overly complicated subject, which boils down to an artform

some manufacturers don't do it very well, and the results are what they call bikes with 'souls'
as opposed to those that do it very well, producing a smooth engine, but it becomes a 'soul-less' bike

modern bikes are mostly soul-less nowadays, hahaha
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Yes. That.


Euro 5 and 6 to blame. Which is also why the NK's stock exhaust sound is so good. They probably DGAF on EU noise regulations.

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