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TSmonkey13
post Feb 16 2024, 10:32 PM, updated 4 months ago

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Hai there,
I’m currently looking around to purchase a sport bike for daily commute. Budget is not big around RM20-25k only for a used bike. I do have a B full licence and have been riding my 250 for about 10years. Always loved the 636 but budget is not in my favour and i dont feel i sbk would be comfortable for daily commute.

People would say I do ride fast and aggressive but for me i think its normal to cruise on highway at 120-140kmh on a 250.so u be the judge. I’m a small guy about 162cm height, max 60kg so touring bike seems like a no go. Kinda interested with mt07, xj6 which is in my budget. Not particularly interested in naked though some review did mentioned that you will crave more later top end speed which u cant get with a naked.

Appreciate if you can give me some suggestions. Especially on maintenance wise and maybe difference between 4cyc n 2cyc.
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post Feb 16 2024, 10:55 PM

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u wan sport bike y wana consider mt07??
die die hv to be fully faired.

xj6 look for the later full, not half fairing



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post Feb 16 2024, 10:56 PM

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it's going to be long winded, but I'll try to ask more questions first

which 250 are you on right now, and what are the reasons to change?
more speed? like top speed? say from the current ~170 you want 200? 220? 240? or outright 299?
more power? like better acceleration between 90 to 140?
more electronics? ABS, TC, ride modes, TFT etc?

how far is your commute? have you been riding correctly with the 250 meaning using core muscle to support instead of pressing mostly on the handlebar?

when you said sport bike, you say SBK (superbike) would not be comfortable for commute, then added MT07/XJ6 and you said not interested in naked... those two bikes are naked

20~25k budget for a used bike may need you to prepare some extra for repairs and services to sort things out

QUOTE(basilisk @ Feb 16 2024, 10:55 PM)
u wan sport bike y wana consider mt07??
die die hv to be fully faired.

xj6 look for the later full, not half fairing
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the CBR is getting more and more affordable and making those XJ6 looks sad

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post Feb 16 2024, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 16 2024, 10:56 PM)

the CBR is getting more and more affordable and making those XJ6 looks sad
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the fz6r look, is not bad...

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post Feb 16 2024, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 16 2024, 10:56 PM)
it's going to be long winded, but I'll try to ask more questions first

which 250 are you on right now, and what are the reasons to change?
more speed? like top speed? say from the current ~170 you want 200? 220? 240? or outright 299?
more power? like better acceleration between 90 to 140?
more electronics? ABS, TC, ride modes, TFT etc?

how far is your commute? have you been riding correctly with the 250 meaning using core muscle to support instead of pressing mostly on the handlebar?

when you said sport bike, you say SBK (superbike) would not be comfortable for commute, then added MT07/XJ6 and you said not interested in naked... those two bikes are naked

20~25k budget for a used bike may need you to prepare some extra for repairs and services to sort things out
the CBR is getting more and more affordable and making those XJ6 looks sad
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I’m not sure what is the exact term to be honest. But my intention is to upgrade cC. I do feel sbk bike will be too much for me to handle for daily commute both physically and financially. I mentioned mt07/xj6 as those are the bikes im check around currently. But im open for suggestions and it doesnt have to be naked or full fairing.

I know my budget is low and it will come with a disadvantage. Cbr was it my list but I cant seems to find those within my budget. Maybe not looking hard enough yet.

Currently riding a cbr250r and I feel that im really stressing the bike a lot by full throttling daily. It would be nicer to cruise around at low rpm.

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TSmonkey13
post Feb 16 2024, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Feb 16 2024, 10:55 PM)
u wan sport bike y wana consider mt07??
die die hv to be fully faired.

xj6 look for the later full, not half fairing
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I’m open to suggestions. Just currently been checking out on mt07 alot
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post Feb 16 2024, 11:35 PM

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the older the bike, the more risk of high maintenance..
summore high milage, n shop will main tipu.

at tht budget can get many,
triumph, ducati oso can get.. ada brani?

stick with jap big four, oni kawa z650 will be youngest comes with abs;

mt07 is still over priced for almost 10yo bike...
dealers die die wont sell cheaper.
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post Feb 16 2024, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Feb 16 2024, 11:35 PM)
the older the bike, the more risk of high maintenance..
summore high milage, n shop will main tipu.

at tht budget can get many,
triumph, ducati oso can get.. ada brani?

stick with jap big four, oni kawa z650 will be youngest comes with abs;

mt07 is still over priced for almost 10yo bike...
dealers die die wont sell cheaper.
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Tak brani bro. From review I’ve read, their maintenance is higher.

I do notice that abt mt07. Z650 pun dalam radar. Dont have anything in particular for now. Still doing my research that is why im asking here to share some light
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post Feb 17 2024, 12:02 AM

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naked you can buy with under RM 25k:
-z650 abs
-z800
-cb650f
-xj6
-mt07
-mt09 v1
-street triple 675 abs


sportbike you can buy under RM 25k:
-ninja 650 abs
-cbr650f
-cbr500
-xj6f
-daytona 675
-naza blade 650

list above based on listing from mudah

kawa 650 (ninja and z) is the safest choice IMO since it has abs and japanese bike

but if you want 4 cylinders then go for cb650f or xj6, though 600cc 4 cylinders might feel a bit boring since you need to rev hard to get their torque

can also try triumph 675, if live in kl they have dealers in batu cave and pj to send your bike

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post Feb 17 2024, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Feb 16 2024, 11:19 PM)
I’m not sure what is the exact term to be honest. But my intention is to upgrade cC. I do feel sbk bike will be too much for me to handle for daily commute both physically and financially. I mentioned mt07/xj6 as those are the bikes im check around currently. But im open for suggestions and it doesnt have to be naked or full fairing.

I know my budget is low and it will come with a disadvantage. Cbr was it my list but I cant seems to find those within my budget. Maybe not looking hard enough yet.

Currently riding a cbr250r and I feel that im really stressing the bike a lot by full throttling daily. It would be nicer to cruise around at low rpm.
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the CB250R, that would be the single cylinder, so iinm 130 is about the fastest it can go

now that we know you are not chasing a dream bike, but rather a solid workhorse commuter
your budget is your budget, is how you manage your life, I won't call it disadvantage
I'd say differently if you have a dream bike instead but compromise for something else due to budget

those 1st gen CBR is easy to find, in fact I also saw one earlier today with ~26k mileage

https://www.mudah.my/malaysia/motorcycles-f...0-25000&q=cb650
https://www.mudah.my/malaysia/motorcycles-f...-25000&q=cbr650

I (personally) would consider this: https://www.mudah.my/cbr+959-104541701.htm
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post Feb 17 2024, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Feb 17 2024, 12:02 AM)
naked you can buy with under RM 25k:
-z650 abs
-z800
-cb650f
-xj6
-mt07
-mt09 v1
-street triple 675 abs
sportbike you can buy under RM 25k:
-ninja 650 abs
-cbr650f
-cbr500
-xj6f
-daytona 675

list above based on listing from mudah

kawa 650 (ninja and z) is the safest choice IMO since it has abs and japanese bike

but if you want 4 cylinders then go for cb650f or xj6, though 600cc 4 cylinders might feel a bit boring since you need to rev hard to get their torque

can also try triumph 675, if live in kl they have dealers in batu cave and pj to send your bike
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Thanks!

Anyway, any opinion when comparing controllability and comfort?

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post Feb 17 2024, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 17 2024, 12:10 AM)
the CB250R, that would be the single cylinder, so iinm 130 is about the fastest it can go

now that we know you are not chasing a dream bike, but rather a solid workhorse commuter
your budget is your budget, is how you manage your life, I won't call it disadvantage
I'd say differently if you have a dream bike instead but compromise for something else due to budget

those 1st gen CBR is easy to find, in fact I also saw one earlier today with ~26k mileage

https://www.mudah.my/malaysia/motorcycles-f...0-25000&q=cb650
https://www.mudah.my/malaysia/motorcycles-f...-25000&q=cbr650

I (personally) would consider this: https://www.mudah.my/cbr+959-104541701.htm
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Honestly the most I got to squeeze out of it was 170 and that was really pushing it šŸ˜… . As mentioned, daily is arnd 120-140 only. Surely not aiming for my dream bike. Maybe in the future after my dream home is completed.

The 959 is 2004 right? Still reliable?
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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Feb 17 2024, 12:10 AM)
Thanks!

Anyway, any opinion when comparing controllability and comfort?
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tbh you gotta try them to see if it suits you.

I can only comment on the kawa 650s and st 675.
both is pretty comfortable during my short ride experience, low seat height, lightweight less than 190 kg, no issue lane filtering in city and enough power to ride in right lane on highway
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post Feb 17 2024, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Feb 17 2024, 12:22 AM)
tbh you gotta try them to see if it suits you.

I can only comment on the kawa 650s and st 675.
both is pretty comfortable during my short ride experience, low seat height, lightweight less than 190 kg, no issue lane filtering in city and enough power to ride in right lane on highway
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Will surely do. No rush for now as I just had my knee ligament reconstruction last week šŸ˜…

I will need to give kawi 650 another chance. Didnt quite enjoy the er6 ride during my b full class which was b4 i bought my 250.

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post Feb 17 2024, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Feb 17 2024, 12:16 AM)
Honestly the most I got to squeeze out of it was 170 and that was really pushing it šŸ˜… . As mentioned, daily is arnd 120-140 only. Surely not aiming for my dream bike. Maybe in the future after my dream home is completed.

The 959 is 2004 right? Still reliable?
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170 out of the CB250R is not bad... I just googled it, seems legit and I was wrong to think 130 is about it

the 959 should actually be a CBR954RR, and I would take a look before deciding anything. I will normally browse mudah for 20k+ sportsbikes esp those that got fuel injection; Fireblades (929, 954), CBR600F4i, ZZR's, ZXR's etc

Another one: https://www.mudah.my/Honda+CBR+929RR+FIREBL...+-104610424.htm

the 929/954 have low seat height, ~815mm so you will feel right at home
at 190kg wet weight... they should be easy to handle

bear in mind, these machines are old but still pack a punch at 150++ hp @ 11k RPM

reliable? it's mostly luck when we talk about used bikes
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25k can get u a decent z800....2013-2015 model..if lucky mebbe 2016 model.

If ur willing to up the budget to 30k, a used 2017 z900 can be urs..in fact there was one selling below 30k coz he bpught a new bike and it was ready for.collection.

For mt07 vs xj6 maintenance...

Tires will be more expensive on the mt07 coz it uses a 180 rear while xj6.is 160.

Engine oil will need 4 bottles on the xj6 but 3.on the mt07.

Spark plugs will be 4 for xj6 n 2 on mt07

Fuel tank bigger on the xj6

Xj6 is older than mt07.

Personally, id go for z800..or.if able, top up for the z900.

But between xj6 n mt07..id go.mt07...newer and that cp2 braap is drool.gif
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post Feb 17 2024, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 17 2024, 12:42 AM)
170 out of the CB250R is not bad... I just googled it, seems legit and I was wrong to think 130 is about it

the 959 should actually be a CBR954RR, and I would take a look before deciding anything. I will normally browse mudah for 20k+ sportsbikes esp those that got fuel injection; Fireblades (929, 954), CBR600F4i, ZZR's, ZXR's etc

Another one: https://www.mudah.my/Honda+CBR+929RR+FIREBL...+-104610424.htm

the 929/954 have low seat height, ~815mm so you will feel right at home
at 190kg wet weight... they should be easy to handle

bear in mind, these machines are old but still pack a punch at 150++ hp @ 11k RPM

reliable? it's mostly luck when we talk about used bikes
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RR is a interesting choice but ill be pushing my luck on it. But no harm in checking it
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post Feb 17 2024, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 17 2024, 02:46 AM)
25k can get u a decent z800....2013-2015 model..if lucky mebbe 2016 model.

If ur willing to up the budget to 30k, a used 2017 z900 can be urs..in fact there was one selling below 30k coz he bpught a new bike and it was ready for.collection.

For mt07 vs xj6 maintenance...

Tires will be more expensive on the mt07 coz it uses a 180 rear while xj6.is 160.

Engine oil will need 4 bottles on the xj6 but 3.on the mt07.

Spark plugs will be 4 for xj6 n 2 on mt07

Fuel tank bigger on the xj6

Xj6 is older than mt07.

Personally, id go for z800..or.if able, top up for the z900.

But between xj6 n mt07..id go.mt07...newer and that cp2 braap is drool.gif
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Havent tried the z800 as I usually feel that the bike is rather big. For the specs, mt07 is really basic making the z8 much more worthy.
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post Feb 17 2024, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Feb 17 2024, 07:59 AM)
RR is a interesting choice but ill be pushing my luck on it. But no harm in checking it
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good luck anyhow

older RR breakdown less than newer 1000's unless you go for more later models

that's how I see bike evolution or generations
the last of it's kind is better than first of it's kind
example the 954 is last of the 900, then the new 1000 is a first, more issues on this one

for 20k
1 - CB/CBR
2 - MT09 v1
3 - Z750

dream bikes would be along the lines of injection equipped retro superbikes
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post Feb 17 2024, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Feb 17 2024, 12:35 AM)
Will surely do. No rush for now as I just had my knee ligament reconstruction last week šŸ˜…
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if it is possible, try and get something with an ABS.
it might save your life.

i'd topup for an ABS.
i'd downgrade cc for an ABS.
and i've been riding for 25 years now.

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