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TSmonkey13
post Feb 17 2024, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 17 2024, 03:53 PM)
good luck anyhow

older RR breakdown less than newer 1000's unless you go for more later models

that's how I see bike evolution or generations
the last of it's kind is better than first of it's kind
example the 954 is last of the 900, then the new 1000 is a first, more issues on this one

for 20k
1 - CB/CBR
2 - MT09 v1
3 - Z750

dream bikes would be along the lines of injection equipped retro superbikes
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Im actually saving 1000cc for my dream bike. As for now focus for a commuting bike.


QUOTE(paskal @ Feb 17 2024, 04:19 PM)
if it is possible, try and get something with an ABS.
it might save your life.

i'd topup for an ABS.
i'd downgrade cc for an ABS.
and i've been riding for 25 years now.
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Understood. Thats im still doing my research. Mt07 intrigues me but its rather pricey for a basic tech bike. The v2 is with abs but used is quite expensive compared to other brands.
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post Feb 17 2024, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Feb 17 2024, 05:05 PM)
Im actually saving 1000cc for my dream bike. As for now focus for a commuting bike.
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Then just take ur 25k n put it in the bank n save it...maybe look into buying ur dream bike with loan n just make sure u can afford the monthly installments other than the maintenance.

Dont bother buying an intermediate bike as commuter coz the bikes ur looking at will almost roughly have the same running cost as the 1L bike if u use it as a commuter. Keep ur 250 as a commuter first as im sure its more than capable. Coz if u spend 25k to upgrade ur commuter, thats 25k less for u to get ur dream bike.

If still itchy for upgrade coz of long distance or something, i probably wouldnt spend more than 10k for something like an er6n/f. Cheap to run, reliable n darn good bike
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post Feb 17 2024, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 17 2024, 05:20 PM)
Then just take ur 25k n put it in the bank n save it...maybe look into buying ur dream bike with loan n just make sure u can afford the monthly installments other than the maintenance.

Dont bother buying an intermediate bike as commuter coz the bikes ur looking at will almost roughly have the same running cost as the 1L bike if u use it as a commuter. Keep ur 250 as a commuter first as im sure its more than capable. Coz if u spend 25k to upgrade ur commuter, thats 25k less for u to get ur dream bike.

If still itchy for upgrade coz of long distance or something, i probably wouldnt spend more than 10k for something like an er6n/f. Cheap to run, reliable n darn good bike
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I’ve thought of that but Im not sure when or if my wife ever allows it. Atleast if I upgrade my commuting bike, I could enjoy the ride more everyday to work.
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post Feb 17 2024, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Feb 17 2024, 12:21 AM)
I’m open to suggestions. Just currently been checking out on mt07 alot
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Wait.... that's not a sportsbike.

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post Feb 17 2024, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Feb 17 2024, 05:05 PM)
Understood. Thats im still doing my research. Mt07 intrigues me but its rather pricey for a basic tech bike. The v2 is with abs but used is quite expensive compared to other brands.
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In your mind you already made up to go for MT-07

just get a taller windscreen setel

currently enjoying my decision getting Mt 07 in January this year
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post Feb 18 2024, 07:42 AM

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If the bike is for all weather commuting, best get something with ABS. No ABS is fine when we are doing 10/10 riding.

When commuting, we often go into autopilot mode. Sudden traffic condition changes may catch us off guard.

Perhaps look into a z650 or ninja 650 (if you want a fully faired "sport bike"). The later models have ABS and the ninja has a fairly comfortable riding position for commuting. Both can be had for about 20-24k used for a fairly recent bike. Yes, it's not as hardcore nor exciting as the pure supersport 636 but, for the budget, comfort, reliability and power, tough to do better.

The torque from the 650 will be a noticable upgrade to your 250. It's a naked dressed up as a sports bike.the engine is tuned for mid range power so it works well for commuting.

On top of that the z/ninja has a fairly low seat height, and low centre of gravity, which would work well for your stature. Plus, it has plenty of accesories in the market if you choose to make a sports touring bike out of it.

The ninja was one of my considered bike, before I decided to get a new NK800. .....those that know my toubles with the NK, would probably agree I would have been served better by the ninja

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Feb 18 2024, 07:47 AM
TSmonkey13
post Feb 18 2024, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Feb 17 2024, 06:58 PM)
Wait.... that's not a sportsbike.
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Yeah I know and as mentioned before, I don’t actually know the exact term.


QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Feb 18 2024, 07:42 AM)
If the bike is for all weather commuting, best get something with ABS. No ABS is fine when we are doing 10/10 riding.

When commuting, we often go into autopilot mode. Sudden traffic condition changes may catch us off guard.

Perhaps look into a z650 or ninja 650 (if you want a fully faired "sport bike"). The later models have ABS and the ninja has a fairly comfortable riding position for commuting. Both can be had for about 20-24k used for a fairly recent bike. Yes, it's not as hardcore nor exciting as the pure supersport 636 but, for the budget, comfort, reliability and power, tough to do better.

The torque from the 650 will be a noticable upgrade to your 250. It's a naked dressed up as a sports bike.the engine is tuned for mid range power so it works well for commuting.

On top of that the z/ninja has a fairly low seat height, and low centre of gravity, which would work well for your stature. Plus, it has plenty of accesories in the market if you choose to make a sports touring bike out of it.

The ninja was one of my considered bike, before I decided to get a new NK800. .....those that know my toubles with the NK, would probably agree I would have been served better by the ninja
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Thanks for the input. The 650 is also in my list. Will definitely consider it.

Out of curiosity, does the 650 have any known common issues?
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post Feb 18 2024, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Feb 18 2024, 06:04 PM)
Yeah I know and as mentioned before, I don’t actually know the exact term.
Thanks for the input. The 650 is also in my list. Will definitely consider it.

Out of curiosity, does the 650 have any known common issues?
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It's the same 650 engine from ER6, so yea it's gonna be very reliable, but it's not that refined of an engine as the design is pretty dated.
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post Feb 19 2024, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Feb 18 2024, 06:04 PM)
Out of curiosity, does the 650 have any known common issues?
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ancient engine thats bulletproof. tried and tested over many years. its akin to toyota and its vios. simply designed to work, work and keep working.
u basically deal with your usual wear and tear...
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post Feb 20 2024, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Feb 18 2024, 08:23 PM)
It's the same 650 engine from ER6, so yea it's gonna be very reliable, but it's not that refined of an engine as the design is pretty dated.
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Feb 19 2024, 10:57 AM)
ancient engine thats bulletproof. tried and tested over many years. its akin to toyota and its vios. simply designed to work, work and keep working.
u basically deal with your usual wear and tear...
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Thank you. Will do more research on them.
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post Feb 21 2024, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Feb 18 2024, 06:04 PM)
Yeah I know and as mentioned before, I don’t actually know the exact term.
Thanks for the input. The 650 is also in my list. Will definitely consider it.

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The MT07 is a 'naked'. Sportbikes normally have a full fairing. Many manufacturers sometimes have 2 variations of the same bike with some ergo and sometimes performance difference. e.g. like:

Sportbike = R7
Naked = MT07

Sportbike = GSX 8R
Naked = GSX 8S

Sportbike = Ninja 650
Naked = Z650

Sportbike = Daytona 660
Naked = Trident

Sportbike = CRB650R
Naked = CB650R

And so on and so forth...

Of course in the sportbike category there are lots more classifications like superbikes, sport tourers etc...

This post has been edited by lowpro: Feb 21 2024, 07:55 AM
alexei
post Feb 21 2024, 10:16 AM

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I think TS meant 'anything bigger than his existing 250cc' instead of an outright 'sport' bike that we are more familiar with

wait til he come back with more

meanwhile, I'm enjoying my maxi scooter hahaha
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post Aug 12 2025, 03:37 AM

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Hai all..

Slight update. I finally pull the plug and gotten myself a MT07 V2 after my 250 keeps asking for more “stuff”. Got the bike on father’s day and feeling was surreal..hahaha…

Been enjoying the bike but still adjusting myself to the more naked riding position and wind drag. The extra power is surely felt as I could now comfortably cruise without the feeling of damaging the engine. Did minor servicing by myself just for my peace of mind. Only wish I got extra cash to upgrade the absorber and also the exhaust system.

Btw, the manifold piping is surely an aftermarket, but how do I identify if my akra muffler is fake or authentic?

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post Aug 12 2025, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Aug 12 2025, 03:37 AM)
Hai all..

Slight update. I finally pull the plug and gotten myself a MT07 V2 after my 250 keeps asking for more “stuff”. Got the bike on father’s day and feeling was surreal..hahaha…

Been enjoying the bike but still adjusting myself to the more naked riding position and wind drag. The extra power is surely felt as I could now comfortably cruise without the feeling of damaging the engine. Did minor servicing by myself just for my peace of mind. Only wish I got extra cash to upgrade the absorber and also the exhaust system.

Btw, the manifold piping is surely an aftermarket, but how do I identify if my akra muffler is fake or authentic?
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Well if you are buying it online, buying it from the official distributor is the way to go.
If you are getting it used, unless they have the original receipt and it is sold really cheap best to just assume its fake.
I don't know how to put it to words but if you are holding original and fake exhaust side by side, you can easily know which one is fake.
Ori exhausts have 'more substance' feeling. Bigger, heavier, not cheap, cleaner welds.

Of course there are some AAA copy exhausts that are really close to the ori ones but those are pricey also.

If you just want a better sounding exhausts then it doesn't really matter if its fake or ori, IMO
To my untrained ears they all sound the same laugh.gif
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post Aug 12 2025, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Aug 12 2025, 03:37 AM)
Hai all..

Slight update. I finally pull the plug and gotten myself a MT07 V2 after my 250 keeps asking for more “stuff”. Got the bike on father’s day and feeling was surreal..hahaha…

Been enjoying the bike but still adjusting myself to the more naked riding position and wind drag. The extra power is surely felt as I could now comfortably cruise without the feeling of damaging the engine. Did minor servicing by myself just for my peace of mind. Only wish I got extra cash to upgrade the absorber and also the exhaust system.

Btw, the manifold piping is surely an aftermarket, but how do I identify if my akra muffler is fake or authentic?
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good bike, hope you like it
careful with the wheelie prone character, and spongy brake feel, and intrusive ABS
otherwise, hooliganism ftw

if you want to upgrade:
1 - brake lines
2 - service front forks (reduce changes of headshakes)
3 - rear shocks upgrade

the akra muffler, look at the overall quality - finishing, joint welds, rivets
if it has carbon body or caps, look for fake carbon vs real carbon
quite likely titanium, notice any discoloration due to heat?
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post Aug 12 2025, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(monkey13 @ Aug 12 2025, 03:37 AM)
Hai all..

Slight update. I finally pull the plug and gotten myself a MT07 V2 after my 250 keeps asking for more “stuff”. Got the bike on father’s day and feeling was surreal..hahaha…

Been enjoying the bike but still adjusting myself to the more naked riding position and wind drag. The extra power is surely felt as I could now comfortably cruise without the feeling of damaging the engine. Did minor servicing by myself just for my peace of mind. Only wish I got extra cash to upgrade the absorber and also the exhaust system.

Btw, the manifold piping is surely an aftermarket, but how do I identify if my akra muffler is fake or authentic?
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good choice! mt07 is definitely the best daily bike with power comes handy.. i was from mt07 v1, here what i did to make the bike feel almost perfect (at least to me)

1) monoshock change to yss topline
2) front fork service, use 15w oil
3) handle balancer change to rxz one
4) puig windscreen
5) service all 3 caliper and change to brembo brake oil
6) tire mich road 6

since you mention cruising 130-140, with puig screen it help a lot.. above 140 different blowing haha

This post has been edited by mytaffeta: Aug 12 2025, 10:34 AM
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post Aug 12 2025, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Aug 12 2025, 08:35 AM)
Well if you are buying it online, buying it from the official distributor is the way to go.
If you are getting it used, unless they have the original receipt and it is sold really cheap best to just assume its fake.
I don't know how to put it to words but if you are holding original and fake exhaust side by side, you can easily know which one is fake.
Ori exhausts have 'more substance' feeling. Bigger, heavier, not cheap, cleaner welds.

Of course there are some AAA copy exhausts that are really close to the ori ones but those are pricey also.

If you just want a better sounding exhausts then it doesn't really matter if its fake or ori, IMO
To my untrained ears they all sound the same laugh.gif
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It came with the bike when i bought it. It sounds ok only planning to redo the exhaust due to looks 😅. Been trying to upload the picture here to share but the limit for pictures here is crazy.

QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 12 2025, 08:53 AM)
good bike, hope you like it
careful with the wheelie prone character, and spongy brake feel, and intrusive ABS
otherwise, hooliganism ftw

if you want to upgrade:
1 - brake lines
2 - service front forks (reduce changes of headshakes)
3 - rear shocks upgrade

the akra muffler, look at the overall quality - finishing, joint welds, rivets
if it has carbon body or caps, look for fake carbon vs real carbon
quite likely titanium, notice any discoloration due to heat?
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I guess the years of experience in riding helps to control the naughty torque.

I’ve swap all brake pads with daytona gold. Yss fork upgrade kit ordered. Mono will be next. Really like the underbody look for the mt07.


QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Aug 12 2025, 10:33 AM)
good choice! mt07 is definitely the best daily bike with power comes handy.. i was from mt07 v1, here what i did to make the bike feel almost perfect (at least to me)

1) monoshock change to yss topline
2) front fork service, use 15w oil
3) handle balancer change to rxz one
4) puig windscreen
5) service all 3 caliper and change to brembo brake oil
6) tire mich road 6

since you mention cruising 130-140, with puig screen it help a lot.. above 140 different blowing haha
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Yes, the extra power does come in handy and fun..hahaha…

1) was contemplating between fork or mono upgrade. Ended up with the fork kit 1st bcz of shopee deal 😅
2) installed a dynopro 750g balancer and a lowered sport handlebar (preference)
3) still maintaining using the aftermarket bubble windshield that it came with. Maybe later after install steering damper.
4) already swap the pads. Its decent now. Will consider hose and the suggested brake oil.
5) it came with pilot road 6 (70-80% left)

130-140 cruising is still fine for me. Above 180 is another story.

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post Aug 12 2025, 12:49 PM

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as for exhaust, i use yoshimura copy r77 370mm.. get a u turn monifold.. not too loud during cold start and mesra neighborhood.. haha
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Btw did you keep your 250 or let go?
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post Aug 13 2025, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Aug 12 2025, 12:49 PM)
as for exhaust, i use yoshimura copy r77 370mm.. get a u turn monifold.. not too loud during cold start and mesra neighborhood.. haha
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Hahaha..really wish i could the akra carbon underbody full system. But what are the actual difference between uturn pipe and a straight pipe besides the sound.


QUOTE(donatelo @ Aug 12 2025, 01:52 PM)
Btw did you keep your 250 or let go?
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Still got it. It doesnt worth selling.

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