The JPJ explicitly states the LMM renewal slip can only be used within Malaysia and is not valid overseas. If you intend on driving in a foreign country, you’ll need to visit a JPJ counter to request for a physical card and pay RM20 for it. Similarly, the e-LMM can’t be used in foreign countries, so it looks you’ll have to get the physical card as well.

You’ll need to provide proof and any supporting documents such as travel tickets, an offer letter, a passport or any other relevant documents relating your trip overseas. Certain countries require an international driving permit (IDP), which is another thing you’ll have to pay for.


tldr:
So basically, just to get a physical driving lesen card, just like what we have now, need to go to JPJ office to apply. And whether can get also based on JPJ officer's discretion. On top of that, need to pay RM20 for the card.

not sure about you, feeling that this is a regressive move. More bureaucratic process and at the same time open for chances of power abuse.

sos: paultan

Why make life difficult for citizens loke

always like tat la..

i got international license since back in 2012.

need to apply every year.

Thailand also no laku our e license¿???

Physical card RM20, for up to 5 years, parallel with your e-license, and that depends on discretion of officer.. some countries do recognise our physical driver license due to having english on it...

International driving license RM150 per annum

Damnyuuum...i see how they forcing us to get international driving license to drive overseas!

This post has been edited by rickyro: Feb 11 2024, 03:43 AM

i still dont und what this physical card is ?

Its different from the international driving license ?

Japan and a few other countries only accept the International Driving license, honestly, its just less hassle. LOL

all these requirements follow whichever country you're in. not something enforced by JPJ. JPJ got no jurisdiction there.

Idp if I recall cost 150 ringgit. Buta buta now another 20 ringgit

Senang je make money

Loke is useless and bodo. Period.

dude, this is not new 5 years ago I applied in jpj to drive in netherlands

Lol maybe only first timers are making the hoo haas

This is not new

since when people thought we can use our driving license to drive overseas other than within aseans?...basically thailand and SG only

everywhere else is IDP all the way

Problem orang kaya …

I always rented car in US using Malaysian driving license. Not international driving license.

projek to make money lettew

That's the plan... so called going paperless but the hidden agenda s to charge 'more' IF xxxxx

You can sell your car easily to other country if allowed. Those smugglers will be very rich & happy if the rule loosen.

Rent-A-Wreck accepts M'sian driving license cos there's English on the card. I presented that along with IDP at the counter; that 300lb woman handed back the IDP and only referred to driving license and passport

What is this? I just get a IDL in JPJ for RM150 to drive in Jepun, never heard of need physical license card for RM20.

because it's in english
but renting one and driving 1 is 2 different thing
if nothing happen is called lucky, but the moment u got pulled over by highway patrol...you'll be in trouble answering question

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Feb 11 2024, 09:21 AM

IDP just apply can get, or need to go for special test for international?

Apply RM150 for 1 year validity, driving license must be more than 1 year

UK and Australia can also since got English translation on it.
IDP is not a license it is just a translation of our license.

This post has been edited by LamboSama: Feb 11 2024, 08:49 AM

THIS!

If no issue, create issue!

Better get IDL, for insurance claim purpose also.

Guys help me.. I'm heading to Lombok next month and plan to ride a scooter there . Do I need international driving licence or just use our existing licence will do .. I'm a confuse duck

Eh thought it is RM150?

That one IDP rm150.
This one copy of your license rm20.

u think loke = international transport minister

driving oversea requirement determined by Malaysia Minister???????




..........

Your license is good enough if you still have the physical one.
There is no international driving licence, it is international driving permit.
Which is merely a supplementary document that translates your Malaysian driving license.

This post has been edited by LamboSama: Feb 11 2024, 08:58 AM

Terima kasih.. yes I still have my physical card.. will just flash it there... Tenkiu!!

US can

but other place best u carry international driving license

PS: i drove in US kena stop by police be4 ; shitbrix

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Feb 11 2024, 09:02 AM

When apply for international driving license don't need to provide prove and passport..
Suddenly JPJ become semi immigration.

She is correct. Because IDP is just a supplementary document translating our license.
It is invalid without the license. So even with IDP a physical license is still required.

Mmg boleh owner of malaysian driving license can drive up to maximum 90 days in certain countries.
Those countries in whatever license treaties, u can check in the rm150 international license booklet, UK, aus, many countries in eu etc.

And meaning to say even your international driving license has a validity of a year, u cannot drive a whole year in that particular country. Only maximum 90 days per entry. Anything more than that you have to apply for local license.

The booklet is just a translation. Most car rental companies only require the original malaysian driving license

Sudah lama la. U never dribe oberseas ke?

Yup, even for driving in ASEAN countries.
ASEAN countries do recognise Msian driving license but pray nothing happens and you don't meet any little Napoleon.

It's stupid really. Our current driving license has a translation compared to the older laminated type to ease driving overseas and using it as an ID.

So many pancut early don't read, then bash ts don't know when they think ts talking about IDP.

This post has been edited by LamboSama: Feb 11 2024, 09:19 AM

My uncle and his friend got stopped by US police long time ago, I think it was the 80s, the friend who was driving thought US police was like Malaysian police, just need coffee money. Before the cop could say anything, the friend slipped the cop some money. My uncle said, he was sure that they are going to jail for that, but the cop took the money and said, "Don't make it a habit." I think he meant that it might work on him, but probably won't work on others.

No problem renting, they don't care if u have idp or not

But if accident wanna claim insurance cannot if no idp

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Feb 11 2024, 09:19 AM

Correct. M'sian driving license is ok with US law enforcement officers.

I have same experience with Hertz.

You can claim your insurance with your Malaysian license.
IDP is not a license it is just a supplementary translation of your license.
It holds no power nor additional advantages.

Cukur I got a physical license when I renewed for 10 years and paid for 9 years last year at pejabat pos

Australia can if visitor and below 3 months i think.

milk more $$$$$ from u

Dey, you sure you know what you are talking about?

What type of insurance do you mean?

For insurance which covers car damage, usually you can buy at car rental agency.

I rented car and drove in these countries; USA, England, Scotland, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. I just showed them my driving license and not IDP.

No problem with Europe and UK as well. Drove all over Germany, Swiss and Austria

Ya.. because our license got english on it

unless they want cari pasal with you then thats another story

last time when i flied to US i also carry IDP ; but hertz ppl dont even bother to see

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Feb 11 2024, 10:03 AM

Little napoleons clap happily.

US no need international license.
JP KR needed.

All rental cars

IDP is basically a booklet made of manila card with a passport photo pasted on it using normal glue. Name is also handwritten if not mistaken.

Only valid for 1 year and cost RM150

Actually our lesen is quite laku overseas.

USA, UK, Australia, South korea, Taiwan, South east asia, europe, and many more also can use. No need extra IDP

Now still can get physical license, just need to go JPJ office, queue for long hours, then show prove that you going overseas, approval up to officer discretion, pay RM20 on top of the annual renewal fee.

More bureaucracy, means more chance for kopi duit?

Also, important to note that, even in Malaysia, without physical license, it is driver's responsibility to show the digital license in JPJ app with your phone when requested by JPJ/polis. Failure to produce the said documents is a criminal offence. So if you change phone, remember to install back the JPJ app and remember the login details.

And when you pass your phone to polis to see, basically you also given the consent for them to search thru your phone. And they can open any photo gallery and apps to look for any illegal stuff (eg nudity, prawn, gambling app/website, political stuffs), which give them opportunity to look for any chance to charge you in court, which can land you in jail.

Also, somewhat forced to install a government app in your phone might opens to many privacy concern. Like how much info can the app access in your phone? Location? What if the app is compromised and got hacked, will it open for hackers to hack the phone?

Rindu zaman can go post office renew and get physical card In and out in under 5 minutes.

I drive in the US no problem at all, just ordinary car driving licence, no international license. 😅

Gomen DAP, expect free all?

Correct. What it is saying now, even in Thai and SG, you need to procure the physical card on renewal (rm20) and not the e-renewal (app) which is only valid in Msia.

IDP is a standalone, separate issue itself

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Feb 11 2024, 12:05 PM

Rented car in few Europe countries with our driving license. No need IDP.

Rindu zaman bossku

No need in Australia.

I use Malaysian driving license to rent car in Australia. No problem

Basically one step forward, 2 steps back.

Should’ve provided both physical and electronic copies on renewal, and electronic copy is valid for use within Msia so no need to bring physical copy out unless travelling overseas.

Now for nothing add another layer of procedure to procure the physical copy.

If i am not wrong, limited to 90 days tourist visa only

if you have digital driving license it might not be recognised overseas.

you still need a physical card

International driving permit

You have reading comprehension problem is it?

Loke make things difficult so rakyat need pay more... Lousy

Some people say he is best transport minister ever....

I rate him around b-. Not the best not the worst... Average

sudah tunjuk belang menyusahkan rakyat

Saw this shit coming from a mile away. But many ktards so happy everything going digital.

Another thing is signing in at condo/gated communities. I'm not handing my phone nor IC to anybody without authority to request it.

Article clearly mentioned LMM. But ktards as usual comprehension problem read as IDP

Not even the same letters used

Yup, seems like US don't care, they don't bother check or ask, I don't think they know what's Malaysia international driving licence. As long as you show them the money you can rent and drive.

Varies by state. But the wording isn't 'tourist' but more of "if you live here permanently" or 'temporary resident'.

Bloody vague definitions imo. Student visa with limited timeframe can be considered "permanent resident" in certain states.

Have a feeling many dunno what LMM stands for

That's for sure...

US is business friendly. Malaysia got too many red tapes, which are not conducive to business.

Got foreigners ask me to help them transfer money or pay Syabas bill, because they can't open bank account here.

Gomen no money after GST abolished, so Loke is doing everything he can to help.

Remember, he actively sells car number plates?

Loke is very hardworking. No doubt about that. But don't expect him to do something big.

As I said before, he only picks the low hanging fruits.

Better u terus get local license from overseas saja .

https://www.jpj.my/international_driving_permit.htm
why this website (not jpj official website) mentioned that you need to surrender LMM to change to idp?

last time i wanted to drive at aus, they told me just do license translation which cost me rm20 only iirc.
then i wanted to drive at japan and needed idp for rm150/year.

if what u said is true, does that means i got conned by jpj?
an idp is just a translation to our LMM?

Yup you got conned. Jpj happy to take money from you if you want to give.
I already did idp many times never surrender malaysia driving license also.
https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/...dl_in_malaysia/




https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1741652/all

This post has been edited by LamboSama: Feb 11 2024, 09:36 PM

how about the time i only had to pay rm20 for translation to drive at australia? what's that compared to idp since both literally just translation?

Don't know what you pay for.
Got picture of it?

As you can see in that thread k resident Aussie expert all say no need idp or translation.

All the while like this lah.

No need if you goto visit Singapork, Thaimoi, Muricunt, Cuntnada etc.

Other places you may need to apply for Internal Driving License (if they recognize).

Or you can't drive at all if they do not recognize internal driving license.

lesen expires in 2025.
paid RM240 to extend additional 8yrs in JPJ UTC Komtar.

Walked in to JPJ itself because i was hoping to get new complete license card, but instead get a card slip that I have to laminate myself.

Now you are telling me that I am supposed tonpay RM20 to get proper license card instead of that card slip?

Not only that it was a letdown back then. Now with this new information, I am totally triple disappointed.

Boo, Anthony. Booooooo.

Can feel you.
Madani keep squeezing money from the rakyat.
However, talking here won't be useful... need to go to the anthony directly. hope he will hear and solve it.

that was long time ago when we still use the laminated license lol.
i tried to find the information but seems like it is irrelevant now

What type of foreigners? Those without permits, hence not able to open accounts?

Are these types of foreigners able to open US bank accounts easily?

500,000 Malaysian driving to SG
500,000 Malaysian driving to Thailand/Brunei/Indonesia
100,000 Malaysian driving in US/EU/AUS/NZ

Previously our old physical driving license is valid in those countries but now will need to pay extra RM20

That an extra income for MOT.

Malaysian now needs to unlock their smartphone which contains P&C info for Police/JPJ checking..

Malaysian now needs to hand over their IC to pak guard when visiting condo/gated community. Since there no more physical driving license. IC information/copy can be used to register for Apps login, loan shark & etc

Previous MOT minister improved our local driving license features until it was recognised by many foreign countries
... helping the people to save costs BUT this Anthony Loke regress n removed those features...now either we pay extra RM20 or get the RM150 IDP. to get those very same features.

This post has been edited by ApocalypseSoon: Feb 12 2024, 12:36 PM

Lol

The old laminated license was BM only, and hence needed to be translated before it could be used in Aus.

When they moved to the physical card, it became dual-language and valid for use in Aus.

but if idp only for translation, then would we need to translate again?

That one long time ago in BM. We switch to the new one in with English to ease these issues.
That is why a lot of people say going backwards.