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post Oct 30 2007, 10:33 PM

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Now PSP comes in Slim version. So not so heavy. But still, iPod is abit lighter.
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post Oct 31 2007, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 30 2007, 10:33 PM)
Now PSP comes in Slim version. So not so heavy. But still, iPod is abit lighter.
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ya i know tat.....hmm now i think many like palm device means the entertainment device tat can fit in one palm
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post Oct 31 2007, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ Oct 31 2007, 09:03 AM)
ya i know tat.....hmm now i think many like palm device means the entertainment device tat can fit in one palm
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I think you mean a PMP, short for personal media player. A device that can display pictures and playback music and video all on one device. EPSON, Nokia, NEC, Creative, Microsoft, Apple and etc all want a piece from this market.

Personally, I think adding internet connectivity via WiFi just sweetens the whole deal. Now we only need the ability to selectively send and receive files for icing the cake. PSP has all of these features but its just a little big even with the new version. The down point is it lacks a touchscreen interface which is important when you want to do some input.

The iPod Touch is small and very thin. Basically it looks like a piece of mini tablet where you can jot on it. Reading from such a device is no doubt very challenging because of the small screen (even at 3.5"). But Apple was able to get around it by utilizing what it calls the pinch to zoom or double tap to zoom on the particular area that you want. And it does so smartly... by zooming to the area just nice for reading without scrolling horizontally. This is where a device with touchscreen excels at.

I think Nokia's N800 and the new N810 does that too which is superb. Now the only show stopper is support for Flash and Javas for the iPod Touch. An area the Nokia has always been good at, especially with Symbian S60 3rd Edition FP1.

UPDATE: To correct spelling.

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post Oct 31 2007, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Oct 31 2007, 01:21 PM)
I think you mean a PMP, short for personal media player. A device that can display pictures and playback music and video all on one device. EPSON, Nokia, NEC, Creative, Microsoft, Apple and etc all want a piece from this market.

Personally, I think adding internet connectivity via WiFi just sweetens the whole deal. Now we only need the ability to selectively send and receive files for icing the cake. PSP has all of these features but its just a little big even with the new version. The down point is it lacks a touchscreen interface which is important when you want to do some input.

The iPod Touch is small and very thin. Basically it looks like a piece of mini tablet where you can jot on it. Reading from such a device is no doubt very challenging because of the small screen (even at 3.5"). But Apple was able to get around it by utilizing what it calls the pinch to zoom or double tap to zoom on the particular area that you want. And it does so smartly... by zooming to the area just nice for reading without scrolling horizontally. This is where a device with touchscreen excels at.

I think Nokia's N800 and the new N810 does that too which is superb. Now the only show stopper is support for Flash and Javas for the iPod Touch. An area the Nokia has always been good at, especially with Symbian S60 3rd Edition FP1.

UPDATE: To correct spelling.
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LOL....ur promoting nokia o? blink.gif
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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ Oct 31 2007, 06:25 PM)
LOL....ur promoting nokia o? blink.gif
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Did I? You must be confused. My post concerns a lot about iPod Touch rather than Nokia's. My postings also put a reasonable perspective on other alternatives. If I am 'selling' Nokia. You must be selling Sony PSP. So where do you want to go from here? Kekekeke!

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post Oct 31 2007, 10:41 PM

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talk bout portability
as now PSP got mroe accesories
swaping batts MStick is very convenient for PSP aint it?


for batts life
which have longer life?
movie game n music
3 main entertainment
which beats the best
i also kinda confusing to get a PSP lite or an Iphone...

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post Nov 1 2007, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(CooLeRthings @ Oct 31 2007, 10:41 PM)
talk bout portability
as now PSP got mroe accesories
swaping batts MStick is very convenient for PSP aint it?
for batts life
which have longer life?
movie game n music
3 main entertainment
which beats the best
i also kinda confusing to get a PSP lite or an Iphone...
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buy both...... icon_rolleyes.gif most ppl will confuse for tis two device becoz mainly they got they own special....
like ipod touch bring the latest technologies tat we havent play before and psp now many games too.....like final fantasy crysis core(only psp) and more.....if you like to play games the psp is surely is the best choice but if you like to having something slim and easy for ur entertainment for example online and listen music of coz ipod....


Added on November 1, 2007, 12:51 amcompare the similary between tis two devices

Wifi website exploring

Ipod touch bring more convinience becoz easy to use and got the horizontal technologies

Psp got wifi for web explore also and it got smart fit funtion but the quality not very good all the thing is like squezz together and it is using joystick fot the pointing devices...

MUsic

Ipod touch still leading for tis becoz ipod got coverflow and also it is using mac os x means when listen to songs can also do other things like exploring website or check mail...

Psp only can run one application and the music player is very simple and not very user friendly

Video

This one a bit challange.....
Ipod got wide screen psp also got....

Psp got umd Video and also watching movie with memory stick now got PMP the quality nice as RMVB

Ipod hmm......still not very clear and good for image quality......

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QUOTE(CooLeRthings @ Oct 31 2007, 10:41 PM)
talk bout portability
as now PSP got mroe accesories
swaping batts MStick is very convenient for PSP aint it?
for batts life
which have longer life?
movie game n music
3 main entertainment
which beats the best
i also kinda confusing to get a PSP lite or an Iphone...
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Hey,

It really depends on what you want on a device. Both the PSP Lite and the iPhone are convergence devices. They pack almost everything on one single device. Try the below:

PSP Lite

Games + Music + Video + Picture viewing + Internet Device + Homebrew software (meaning more possibilities).
*If I missed out anything, PSP expert please fill in*

In my opinion, a PSP Lite is an ideal device IF I want to play reasonably sophisticated and advanced games, video and picture viewing on the go. The main purpose of PSP is to play games on the go and it is very successful in this. Of course it can be a portable multimedia device also. Music is a rather half hanging feature. I mean you could hide the whole thing on your bag and listen to the tunes while you commute around the city. But its rather too big for a music device. I understand that its a very good internet device too but if there's no reasonable way to input data into it, its only a surf and forget feature. PSP fanboys might disagree so I'll let them fill in here too.

Homebrew software is a dream. Can't agree more. The PSP wasn't designed to be used like that but the tweakers are magic people. With homebrew software, you can do a lot more than just the features I highlighted. BUT. To run these applications or go around the legal perspective of the device, you'll need a certain version of firmware, a certain version of hardware, a certain version of emulation software, and certain way or procedure of loading stuffs to run them. There's no clear cut way to execute them. Things might improve now, but I don't see homebrew softwares open to new users out there. It'll freak them out.


iPhone

Mobile phone (But missing certain important GSM applications and features) + Music + Video + Picture viewing + Internet browsing + Dedicated mobile Youtube + WiFi Music Store + 3rd party applications (currently on achievable via jailbreaking)

The iPhone is a rather different kind of convergence device. Its main design objectives are to be a phone (not a complete phone and convenient one though). The rest just complements it. Why? Because we already have mobile phones that can play games, music, video, picture viewing and internet browsing. This is nothing new. But what iPhone does different from other feature-similar-phones are THE WAY YOU USE IT.

Its small enough to be a phone, sleek and slim profile enough to be a PMP (music, video, picture viewing), great as an internet device with great input features via touchscreen, a music store for purchasing music (not application in Malaysia though), and a host of 3rd party applications. Right now the applications aren't that big, but I forsee when Apple eventually decides to open up its OSX Lite, it'll be something like PSP homebrew. Of course minus the hassle to execute one.


So it really boils down to what you really need. If you have a nice phone, iPhone is not a necessity. If you like its touchscreen interface and the UI of all its applications, then maybe. If you like a small enough PMP device, then definitely yes. Accessories wise, you know that 3rd party Apple accessories are a lucrative business right? Hehe... Right now, its zero, but when Apple releases iPhone in Malaysia, the number can only increase.

If you want to play games, I think PSP is an ideal device. Accessories are abundant with a lot of choices in price as well.

In the end, you CAN ONLY be HAPPY. rclxms.gif Because you've decided to get yourself an exciting device, either the PSP Lite or the iPhone.
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post Nov 1 2007, 10:42 AM

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nice article... smile.gif
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post Nov 1 2007, 12:15 PM

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hard to choose
for PSP i like all those portable thing
can swap everything
while iphone kinda limit
is like when portable, batt's life is kinda important
psp u can get extra batts
while iphone loose on this
the reason i like iphone is the touch screen n UI, the whole thing look classy n cool
PSP got a favourite game i wanna try... Crisis Core n if i wanna get, i plan to get tat 77777 units bundle set
now dilemma on choosing which device to follow me ...
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post Nov 2 2007, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(CooLeRthings @ Nov 1 2007, 12:15 PM)
hard to choose
for PSP i like all those portable thing
can swap everything
while iphone kinda limit
is like when portable, batt's life is kinda important
psp u can get extra batts
while iphone loose on this
the reason i like iphone is the touch screen n UI, the whole thing look classy n cool
PSP got a favourite game i wanna try... Crisis Core n if i wanna get, i plan to get tat 77777 units bundle set
now dilemma on choosing which device to follow me ...
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i juz finish crysis core lo......nice game quality biggrin.gif
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post Nov 2 2007, 10:34 PM

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ipod products are the best r..keke

hmm..reagarding batt life..

in a day hw long can u play v dis two items?? given both items to two ppl..both of dem test it for the same duration of time..games, music, movies..which will give in first..

but i wud say the main issues is gaming..the apple(i) products cannot compete on that level..

if 1 is into gaming n all..music and movies are a side dishes..then the psp..

if 1 on the other hand is into movies and music..sure r da apple(i) products..

if u can accept the quality of the movies n music played by the psp... gaming on dat gadget is a side dish..

well..at the end of the day...user preference??
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post Nov 2 2007, 11:09 PM

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Why do you come on Apple's section for a decision like this? Take this to the console section so everybody can vote on it.

Between you and me, PSP all the way.
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post Nov 3 2007, 12:28 AM

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get both, like me....psp for gaming, video oso can....ipod, i got iphone...phone, plus ipod....wan bigger storage, got video 30gb stand by for me...tat is more than enof for me....
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QUOTE(limyusiong @ Nov 3 2007, 12:28 AM)
get both, like me....psp for gaming, video oso can....ipod, i got iphone...phone, plus ipod....wan bigger storage, got video 30gb stand by for me...tat is more than enof for me....
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haha get both.....

for me i seldom play games so i will choose ipod.. smile.gif

Because i can only accept quality....(psp games still very poor quality) compare to computer LOL biggrin.gif
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why most of ppl keep thinking psp loose to iphone in vidz quality?...if movies on the go is the concern these two(iphone n psp) share the same quality output eventhough psp can hold vidz up to 720*480...but let get back what r the 1st purpose this gadget to be built of...psp for mobile gaming n iphone music device with phone....so there is already a clear winner which one suit them the best....

for me the best of portable all around device should have...
*good mp3 n video management(in terms of software and user friendly UI)
*can handle various of format
*able to play media within +/- 10 hours
*lot of accessories range
*replaceable battery
other than that will be a bonus for the device...
(one thing i keep sigh when using apple product using windows was the itunes software eat a lot of RAM resources...not a good sofftware for a so-so pc like me )



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QUOTE(merajey @ Nov 6 2007, 01:06 AM)
why most of ppl keep thinking psp loose to iphone in vidz quality?...if movies on the go is the concern these two(iphone n psp) share the same quality output eventhough psp can hold vidz up to 720*480...but let get back what r the 1st purpose this gadget to be built of...psp for mobile gaming n iphone music device with phone....so there is already a clear winner which one suit them the best....

for me the best of portable all around device should have...
*good mp3 n video management(in terms of software and user friendly UI)
*can handle various of format
*able to play media within +/- 10 hours
*lot of accessories range
*replaceable battery
other than that will be a bonus for the device...
(one thing i keep sigh when using apple product using windows was the itunes software eat a lot of RAM resources...not a good sofftware for a so-so pc like me )
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not really lah...seem that psp losing their words in this thread...so why not 'neutalize' it back... smile.gif (eventhough i have both...)

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QUOTE(merajey @ Nov 6 2007, 07:04 PM)
not really lah...seem that psp losing their words in this thread...so why not 'neutalize' it back... smile.gif  (eventhough i have both...)
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me too...psp i plan to sell it but finally i give it to my small brother.... biggrin.gif
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psp more to gaming la..

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