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TSkevinwcw
post Oct 28 2007, 04:06 PM, updated 19y ago

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nowadays psp can support many kind of video.....and the UMD video is still the best quality for portable devices....Can ipodtouch/iphone beat it in future???? hmm.gif


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post Oct 28 2007, 09:12 PM

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hehe..y nt??

which do u tink is da more popular device??

the psp or apple (i) products?
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post Oct 28 2007, 09:20 PM

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i would prefer PSP anytime but thats just me...
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post Oct 28 2007, 09:23 PM

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Agreed. I used my PSP mainly for watching movies. Now I need a 8Gb MS card to store all the good movies. Damn useful when traveling on long flights.
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post Oct 28 2007, 09:28 PM

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i think its depend on the user more....psp bring the highest video quality but apple mov file also not bad....psp more heavy but ipod more convinience... tongue.gif


Added on October 28, 2007, 9:28 pm
QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ Oct 28 2007, 09:12 PM)
hehe..y nt??

which do u tink is da more popular device??

the psp or apple (i) products?
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now of coz apple..... tongue.gif

This post has been edited by kevinwcw: Oct 28 2007, 09:28 PM
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post Oct 28 2007, 10:27 PM

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For me,I used my psp for gaming,and ipod touch for movies/music.
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post Oct 28 2007, 11:03 PM

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ipod touch can fit in the pocket..that means movie/music anywhere,
psp bring out when want to play games only..

i think psp games>movies

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post Oct 28 2007, 11:14 PM

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I have no PSP but i watched using my friend's. PSP is fine too with movies. But still, i prefer iPod for watching movie since its mainly for movies and music.
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post Oct 28 2007, 11:19 PM

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for this is how it goes...

if u like play game of course psp is the 1 to go for

but if u interested in song movies then u can compare apple/psp cause both have that feature...
if u think u may want to play game..psp lo..

but if ur a no no gamer..then apple mayb better cause smaller and lighter
and the new iphone/itouch has touch technology...hehe

head ache.??.hahahahaha


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post Oct 29 2007, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(mingdynasty @ Oct 28 2007, 11:19 PM)
for this is how it goes...

if u like play game of course psp is the 1 to go for

but if u interested in song movies then u can compare apple/psp cause both have that feature...
if u think u may want to play game..psp lo..

but if ur a no no gamer..then apple mayb better cause smaller and lighter
and the new iphone/itouch has touch technology...hehe

head ache.??.hahahahaha
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its really headche if someone is enjoying watching video.....becoz UMD video is still the best tat i had seems before....
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post Oct 30 2007, 02:48 AM

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video quality, ipod touch or iphone better (not talking about screen size)

psp screen ratio doesnt mean for movie.

psp also read mpeg4/pmp only (as my original firmware)

watching video, still ipod touch.
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post Oct 30 2007, 02:51 AM

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to me apple is more of a classy product....but based on the sound quality apple owns...video im not sure..i havent seen videos in psp

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post Oct 30 2007, 02:53 AM

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to be frank
psp audio out not so good if it is covert movie to memory stick duo
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post Oct 30 2007, 02:56 AM

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really ? but the first concept of psp would be gaming so understandable
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post Oct 30 2007, 10:54 AM

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hmm for me it's the psp ..... bigger screen and nice for movies (wide screen), music quality is good if not better than ipod plus you get games, homebrew, wifi, surfing and pix.
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post Oct 30 2007, 12:00 PM

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PSP je.... it has more than what the iTouch offer.. the only disadvantage is, you have to pay extra for more memory... other than that its all gd
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post Oct 30 2007, 12:13 PM

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I'm a ex PSP owner & current iPhone owner.
I would go for iPhone for some personal reason:
- PSP is demm heavy, my hand get tired if I have to carry it 2hr in a bus/train while watching it.
- PSP doesn't feel nice to hold on my hand.
- To sync the video into PSP is troublesome (during my time), have to install this and that, convert this and that, take out the memory card and put it back. Then I have to remember which movie I watched, watch until where.
With iPhone I just use iTunes. And iTunes manage what I want, clean. iPhone remember where I last stop the movie (very important).
- Quality wise I can comment much, as this solely depends how you do video conversion. And the UMD is ofcourse good. But I don't use magnifying glass to watch a 3.5" video.

What I like for PSP is the animated clip you get when you're picking the video.
If you don't remember what's the title, at lease you can have a preview of what is it.
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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ Oct 28 2007, 04:06 PM)
nowadays psp can support many kind of video.....and the UMD video is still the best quality for portable devices....Can ipodtouch/iphone beat it in future???? hmm.gif
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In my opinion, well... just my opinion lar... tongue.gif , for a modern video format to excel the other in a comparison like this we need to consider the following:

1. User acceptance
2. Portability & flexibility of format
3. Proprietary or open system
4. The actual video performance
5. Compression, size to quality ratio

I mean, no use if a format is so good and versatile but it does not have a place in the marketplace. No use if a format is so great but you can't buy it at the common place. If format A want to compete with UMD, it simply do not need to because there's nothing to compete.

UMD video format is a proprietary format developed by Sony for the PSP. Nobody can buy this media off the shelves or get supply of this media and then publish it with your own content. No publisher can publish in this format without giving a royalty to Sony.

Next UMD can only be played on Sony PSP. Unless I'm mistaken, there's no other device using UMD at the moment. Of course the video performance is really promising for a form factor like a PSP. But how many of our favorite shows, favorite podcasts, videoblogs, dramas, and movies are published in UMD? I'm talking contents from various continents of the world. Yes, we do have good movies from the North America for UMD, but I don't think we have the same for Asian entertainment.

Then can you transcode UMD to another format and vice versa? This is the portability side of the format. Can you convert UMD to a MPEG4/H.264 or another format to UMD for viewing on PSP? You can't unless you use the memory card slot but that isn't UMD anymore.

I think the same goes to Ipod Video/Touch/iPhone. We need to transcode a content to something acceptable to these Ipods. Ipod cannot and PSP cannot so what's my point? In this case, we look at how many people are using these devices and how popular they are in the market place. In this case, we look at user acceptance. Note that I'm talking about DEVICE to play them. I believe each user of each camp would have an answer in this own mind by now.

Now we move to format. UMD format is a format glued to the disc. Meaning to say, UMD, the format, its compression algorithms and the physical information holder and the disc is ONE. UMD comes in a disc. I'm discounting those brave souls hacking the format from the disc and deliver them from memory cards. We're talking from a legal perspective.

MPEG4/H.264 is one versatile format. It do not have a fixed physical information holder. It doesn't necessary comes in a disc, you can download off the net, and you can obtain from different sources. All the popular formats like Windows Media Video 9/10/11 (WMV) , Real Media Variable Bitrate (RMVB), etc all use some form of processing from the MGEG4/H.264 process flow. You can transcode any format (with a proper software transcoder of course) to any format you want. MPEG4 is almost free for use and not tied down to a corporation. Those China made portable media players (PMP) can accept MPEG44 easily. iPod Video/Touch/iPhone uses a proper transcoded MPEG4 to play too. Most handphones record videos in MPEG4, 3GPP, etc.

Video quality hands down - UMD is great. But there's no point in using this format where I can't find any contents for it. There's no point in admiring this great quality by sticking to the few discs I ever own. I can't like watch the movie over and over again just to admire it.

Then again a lot of online music stores offer video at MPEG4. You can easily download movies in MPEG4 or RMVB or DIVX (in legal perspectives, please). The real show is that, I can transcode any of these formats to another for my whatever PMP I have. I can't do the same for UMD.

So I rest my case. Let the lashings begin notworthy.gif --> flex.gif


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post Oct 30 2007, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Oct 30 2007, 02:53 AM)
to be frank
psp audio out not so good if it is covert movie to memory stick duo
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now i compare it to UMD video...(better) biggrin.gif


Added on October 30, 2007, 7:21 pm
QUOTE(wei @ Oct 30 2007, 12:13 PM)
I'm a ex PSP owner & current iPhone owner.
I would go for iPhone for some personal reason:
- PSP is demm heavy, my hand get tired if I have to carry it 2hr in a bus/train while watching it.
- PSP doesn't feel nice to hold on my hand.
- To sync the video into PSP is troublesome (during my time), have to install this and that, convert this and that, take out the memory card and put it back. Then I have to remember which movie I watched, watch until where.
With iPhone I just use iTunes. And iTunes manage what I want, clean. iPhone remember where I last stop the movie (very important).
- Quality wise I can comment much, as this solely depends how you do video conversion. And the UMD is ofcourse good. But I don't use magnifying glass to watch a 3.5" video.

What I like for PSP is the animated clip you get when you're picking the video.
If you don't remember what's the title, at lease you can have a preview of what is it.
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damm heavy is true tongue.gif

This post has been edited by kevinwcw: Oct 30 2007, 07:21 PM
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post Oct 30 2007, 09:52 PM

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psp for gaming r..movies..erm..

but for movies n all apple(i) products??

but to watch movies on apple(i)..video files need to be converted rite??

i m sure cannot compare which plays better musch though..rite??

the apple(i) products are so much more portable too...

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