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 PSA: Remember check your Car Battery before CNY..., Else later kaput, cant jumpstar easily.

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TSiSean
post Feb 1 2024, 02:55 PM, updated 2y ago

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Well not sure consider fortunate or unfortunate, my Bezza just reached 2 year old few days ago, its stock battery died today before CNY. Luckily it died before I plan to go outstation to my parent's hometown...

My parents used my car go pasar, they both didn't bring their phones out. Eventually they had to pinjam pasar stall owner phone in order to call me to get the other family car out to jumpstart. My parent's didn't give precise location had to ronda around just to find my car, with the vague location my parents gave.

My Bezza had a cheapo MrDIY jumper but when I attempted to jumpstart and charge with my Honda City Battery + Engine for like 30 minutes using the proper connection setup was useless, I tried to charge it from 8.5V to 12.5V also unable to jump start. It's battery electrochemistry seems too weak, might not be enough current and voltage to jump start.

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Eventually I ordered Carput's Battery Replacement for an AMARON GO Series 38B20L for RM 275.

Then a random good samaritan came by, and bring his thicker gauge Jumper cable. And told me not to connect to the metal body of my dead car, instead directly onto the Negative Terminal of my Bezza dead Battery.

Luckily, no hydrogen leaked and the original battery didn't exploded. And my Bezza managed to start up, and had to cancelled the Carput, where the runner still dunno where go pick up the battery. Called Carput CS and the Runner Tech to cancelled ordered.

So, I went around the neighbourhood to look for an Amaron Dealer Car Battery Shop.

First shop, the Cina uncle macam nak potong me, sell higher than Official Store / Carput, RM 340 for the same Amaron Go Battery.

So directly I go survey another Battery shop RM 290 - RM 20 Trade In. Only just saved RM 5. sweat.gif

At the end, I think should have let Carput to replace me car battery. In case next time or under warranty period the battery became dead.

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Car Batteries nowadays so weak, can't really last more than 2 years+ already? sweat.gif

My stock battery is some Panasonic Lead-Acid Battery with Refillable Caps.
Only went to Perodua Service Center 3 months ago, the technicians checked the battery report says ok.

I go look back report in details mana pula cold start Voltage was 10V+ but Engine started it was 14V+....
Rated CCA 240A, Measured already 220A...

The Perodua SC didn't bother to inform my battery near dying stage... rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by iSean: Feb 1 2024, 02:57 PM
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post Feb 1 2024, 02:58 PM

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My stock Panasonic lasted more than 3 years, in the end I changed it prematurely as I bought cheap battery from lapsapdah.
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:03 PM

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Already have a 70mai jumpstart pack. Zero worries.

At the same time, also have the Launch OBD2 reader.
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:04 PM

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Lol
bought din55r for dads car and cost rm170 with vouches and all.
Rated at 240a and measured at 220 means more than 90% life left. Honestly you need to check what is draining the battery than just replacing it outright.

There's a battery guy around here romancatholic?
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:04 PM

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My wife car battery finally kong after nearly 4 years.
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:06 PM

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Where did you put the negative at body?
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:15 PM

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actually people can actually buy a battery tester for like RM10 from shopee
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:18 PM

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Thanks for the heads up TS. Thankfully your parents are all okay. From what I heard certain mechanics shop pipul purposely shorten the lifespan of the battery to 2 years and they keep recycling to new victim
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Feb 1 2024, 03:06 PM)
Where did you put the negative at body?
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At this metal pipe. I don't see any other connecting points without paints.
I brought my multimeter along, able to sense voltage, from the body ground with respect to the (+) of the Bezza battery.


Also Bezza manual seems abit useless didn't put recommendation on where to clamp:
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Feb 1 2024, 02:55 PM)
Well not sure consider fortunate or unfortunate, my Bezza just reached 2 year old few days ago, its stock battery died today before CNY. Luckily it died before I plan to go outstation to my parent's hometown...

My parents used my car go pasar, they both didn't bring their phones out. Eventually they had to pinjam pasar stall owner phone in order to call me to get the other family car out to jumpstart. My parent's didn't give precise location had to ronda around just to find my car, with the vague location my parents gave.

My Bezza had a cheapo MrDIY jumper but when I attempted to jumpstart and charge with my Honda City Battery + Engine for like 30 minutes using the proper connection setup was useless, I tried to charge it from 8.5V to 12.5V also unable to jump start. It's battery electrochemistry seems too weak, might not be enough current and voltage to jump start.

user posted image

Eventually I ordered Carput's Battery Replacement for an AMARON GO Series 38B20L for RM 275.

Then a random good samaritan came by, and bring his thicker gauge Jumper cable. And told me not to connect to the metal body of my dead car, instead directly onto the Negative Terminal of my Bezza dead Battery.

Luckily, no hydrogen leaked and the original battery didn't exploded. And my Bezza managed to start up, and  had to cancelled the Carput, where the runner still dunno where go pick up the battery. Called Carput CS and the Runner Tech to cancelled ordered.

So, I went around the neighbourhood to look for an Amaron Dealer Car Battery Shop.

First shop, the Cina uncle macam nak potong me, sell higher than Official Store / Carput, RM 340 for the same Amaron Go Battery.

So directly I go survey another Battery shop RM 290 - RM 20 Trade In. Only just saved RM 5.  sweat.gif

At the end, I think should have let Carput to replace me car battery. In case next time or under warranty period the battery became dead.

user posted image
Car Batteries nowadays so weak, can't really last more than 2 years+ already?  sweat.gif

My stock battery is some Panasonic Lead-Acid Battery with Refillable Caps.
Only went to Perodua Service Center 3 months ago, the technicians checked the battery report says ok.

I go look back report in details mana pula cold start Voltage was 10V+ but Engine started it was 14V+....
Rated CCA 240A, Measured already 220A...

The Perodua SC didn't bother to inform my battery near dying stage... rclxub.gif
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I bring extra battery for long distance drive.

One time battery dead in penang. Lucky to have the spare battery to replace on the spot.

PS: el-cheapo jumper cable which has not pure copper and can't take high current across the points can't jumpstart.

Better invest pure copper wiring or custom made jumper cable for hassle free

This post has been edited by Doomsday: Feb 1 2024, 03:24 PM
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:22 PM

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My Bezza had a cheapo MrDIY jumper but when I attempted to jumpstart and charge with my Honda City Battery + Engine for like 30 minutes

I always thought jump start cables are used to jump start the car, not to charge the dead battery. Once started, the dead car should be able to charge it using its own alternator.
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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Feb 1 2024, 03:06 PM)
Where did you put the negative at body?
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Any exposed metal part in the engine bay, as far away from the dead battery as possible. Sked kaboom when hydrogen is released due to sparks.
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:24 PM

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i baru order one, tmr morning go pasang. Before cny starts kena 1k liao..

that day send my car go polish, then after the treatment i start the car which need 2 times to start then ambik go check, said need to change within a week left 300 (i dont no reading) , full battery is around 800 readings.
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:25 PM

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elok ke bang bateri amaron ni?
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Feb 1 2024, 03:22 PM)
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At this metal pipe. I don't see any other connecting points without paints.
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Aiyoh. You connected to the aircon line., that’s not a good ground no wonder cannot jump start la. Next time connect out to the engine block, metal piece, close to the starter the better. Or the alternator also can.
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 1 2024, 03:03 PM)
Already have a 70mai jumpstart pack. Zero worries.

At the same time, also have the Launch OBD2 reader.
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Remember to charge 70mai jumpstart, later battery kosong also no use, that battery bank keep in car so long, also will lose charge one eventually. sweat.gif
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 1 2024, 03:26 PM)
Aiyoh. You connected to the aircon line., that’s not a good ground no wonder cannot jump start la. Next time connect out to the engine block, metal piece, close to the starter the better. Or the alternator also can.
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I mean it managed to charge my car battery. I don't see any good raw metal without paint surface on my car.
I poked with my multimeter was sense some voltage through, thought it was okay sweat.gif
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ Feb 1 2024, 03:28 PM)
I mean it managed to charge my car battery. I don't see any good raw metal without paint surface on my car.
I poked with my multimeter was sense some voltage through, thought it was okay  sweat.gif
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This is my axia engine is almost similar. I always connect here ( alternator mounting point)

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Yours might be blocked by the intake air piece ( black plastic) , just easily remove it and you can easily see exposed metal on the engine liao

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post Feb 1 2024, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(lagenda110 @ Feb 1 2024, 03:25 PM)
elok ke bang bateri amaron ni?
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Cuba sekali....kalau puas, continue support

If not, change brand
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