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 PSA: Remember check your Car Battery before CNY..., Else later kaput, cant jumpstar easily.

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TSiSean
post Feb 1 2024, 02:55 PM, updated 2y ago

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Well not sure consider fortunate or unfortunate, my Bezza just reached 2 year old few days ago, its stock battery died today before CNY. Luckily it died before I plan to go outstation to my parent's hometown...

My parents used my car go pasar, they both didn't bring their phones out. Eventually they had to pinjam pasar stall owner phone in order to call me to get the other family car out to jumpstart. My parent's didn't give precise location had to ronda around just to find my car, with the vague location my parents gave.

My Bezza had a cheapo MrDIY jumper but when I attempted to jumpstart and charge with my Honda City Battery + Engine for like 30 minutes using the proper connection setup was useless, I tried to charge it from 8.5V to 12.5V also unable to jump start. It's battery electrochemistry seems too weak, might not be enough current and voltage to jump start.

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Eventually I ordered Carput's Battery Replacement for an AMARON GO Series 38B20L for RM 275.

Then a random good samaritan came by, and bring his thicker gauge Jumper cable. And told me not to connect to the metal body of my dead car, instead directly onto the Negative Terminal of my Bezza dead Battery.

Luckily, no hydrogen leaked and the original battery didn't exploded. And my Bezza managed to start up, and had to cancelled the Carput, where the runner still dunno where go pick up the battery. Called Carput CS and the Runner Tech to cancelled ordered.

So, I went around the neighbourhood to look for an Amaron Dealer Car Battery Shop.

First shop, the Cina uncle macam nak potong me, sell higher than Official Store / Carput, RM 340 for the same Amaron Go Battery.

So directly I go survey another Battery shop RM 290 - RM 20 Trade In. Only just saved RM 5. sweat.gif

At the end, I think should have let Carput to replace me car battery. In case next time or under warranty period the battery became dead.

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Car Batteries nowadays so weak, can't really last more than 2 years+ already? sweat.gif

My stock battery is some Panasonic Lead-Acid Battery with Refillable Caps.
Only went to Perodua Service Center 3 months ago, the technicians checked the battery report says ok.

I go look back report in details mana pula cold start Voltage was 10V+ but Engine started it was 14V+....
Rated CCA 240A, Measured already 220A...

The Perodua SC didn't bother to inform my battery near dying stage... rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by iSean: Feb 1 2024, 02:57 PM
TSiSean
post Feb 1 2024, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Feb 1 2024, 03:06 PM)
Where did you put the negative at body?
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At this metal pipe. I don't see any other connecting points without paints.
I brought my multimeter along, able to sense voltage, from the body ground with respect to the (+) of the Bezza battery.


Also Bezza manual seems abit useless didn't put recommendation on where to clamp:
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 1 2024, 03:03 PM)
Already have a 70mai jumpstart pack. Zero worries.

At the same time, also have the Launch OBD2 reader.
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Remember to charge 70mai jumpstart, later battery kosong also no use, that battery bank keep in car so long, also will lose charge one eventually. sweat.gif
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 1 2024, 03:26 PM)
Aiyoh. You connected to the aircon line., that’s not a good ground no wonder cannot jump start la. Next time connect out to the engine block, metal piece, close to the starter the better. Or the alternator also can.
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I mean it managed to charge my car battery. I don't see any good raw metal without paint surface on my car.
I poked with my multimeter was sense some voltage through, thought it was okay sweat.gif
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Teutonic Knight @ Feb 1 2024, 03:18 PM)
Thanks for the heads up TS. Thankfully your parents are all okay. From what I heard certain mechanics shop pipul purposely shorten the lifespan of the battery to 2 years and they keep recycling to new victim
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Yeah, parents are okay, just abit drama from mother keep giving suggestions that I've proposed first, then shove it back to me, after getting her phone back calling relatives that does car insurance. sweat.gif


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Well I hope not, very non-ethical, shortening battery lifespan. But if stock from manufacturer, defects or electrochemistry not well made I can't blame la.
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Feb 1 2024, 03:36 PM)
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Good advice. Just want to ask who teach you to connect (-)neg to car body? Apek bawah pokok? Car paint these days already block the connection, also longer route to the battery. I wud suggest direct connection to the battery like in pix, ask the keta hidup to rev car engine first before you attempt dead battery start. Have been helping ppl a lot to jumps start car, even pregnant women who know how to isi minyak and drive saja..Pity nowadays many also dunno how to jumpstart a battery.
*Unker missed the days where you could put car in neutral and jumpstart car in 2nd gear. Maybe CTR or Megane?
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" Just want to ask who teach you to connect (-)neg to car body? "

> Google any how to jump start, even Perodua Manual state (-) to raw conductive ground of car metal body.

If (-) to (-) will have the risk of Hydrogen gas leaked and caused a spark.
Otherwise, shared if Battery is shorted internally just fry two cars only.
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post Feb 1 2024, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 1 2024, 03:37 PM)
And next time no need to wait 30 minutes to charge, just connect and start your car immediately. The idea of jump start is to by pass your dead battery and use the donor battery to start, if the connection all good and donor battery good condition ( and big enough) it should start easily.
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Well will do that, with a proper gauge cable I guess.
MrDIY one I feel abit questionable already.

Most likely will be a 1.5 years later I would need a near battery swap.
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post Feb 1 2024, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Jimat Suratman @ Feb 1 2024, 04:15 PM)
Don't forget to ask the shop to register the warranty ya. If not you rugi woo 18 months warranty.

By the way u not untung RM5 but u rugi. RM275 is for 36month warranty punya price.
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how does one register the warranty? They just give me receipt with my car plate.
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post Feb 1 2024, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Jimat Suratman @ Feb 1 2024, 04:15 PM)
Don't forget to ask the shop to register the warranty ya. If not you rugi woo 18 months warranty.

By the way u not untung RM5 but u rugi. RM275 is for 36month warranty punya price.
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https://www.amaronmalaysia.com/amaron-36

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How to get 36 Months Warranty?
Amaron’s 36 months warranty programme only covers 38B20L, 46B24 series and DIN type batteries:

Amaron Go NS40ZL (38B20L) : Delivery Price RM280 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

Amaron Go NS60L/R (46B24L/R) : Delivery Price RM310 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

Amaron Hi-Life Pro DIN55L/R : Delivery Price RM400 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

Amaron Hi-Life Pro DIN74L : Delivery Price RM580 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

Amaron Hi-Life Pro DIN80L : Delivery Price RM690 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

Amaron Hi-Life Pro DIN100L : Delivery Price RM750 (inclusive of old battery trade-in)

It’s for vehicles with petrol engines only, and the mileage limit is 60,000 km (or 36 months, whichever comes first). For diesel-powered vehicles, the standard warranty is nine months.

1-18 Months: Free replacement

19 Months: 47% Discount

20 Months: 45% Discount

21 Months: 42% Discount

22 Months: 39% Discount

23 Months: 36% Discount

24 Months: 33% Discount

25 Months: 31% Discount

26 Months: 28% Discount

27 Months: 25% Discount

28 Months: 22% Discount

29 Months: 20% Discount

30 Months: 17% Discount

31-33 Months: 15% Discount

34-36 Months: 10% Discount

Note: * The warranty period shall be commenced from the date of invoice. Warranty claim will be on 1 to 1 replacement basis (same model and same brand) and subject to the Final Outcome, if any/ necessary. The replaced battery will carry the warranty as follow:-

(a) Claim made within the 1st till 18th months warranty period (free of charge replacement) shall carry the balance warranty period as if the returned battery. Eg: claim has been made on second months after purchase where the battery purchased has been returned for replacement, the replaced battery will carry 34 months warranty period, i.e. the balance warranty period of the battery returned; or

(b) Claim made excess or after 18th months warranty period [with the payment (subject to the discount given) made for the replacement] shall carry the full duration of warranty period, i.e. 36 months as if a new battery purchased, provided the same registration requirements are met for the replaced battery.

* The Warranty Period would be made available to the customer(s) who has completed the registration of purchase of AMARON battery (“Online Registration”) through the relevant online system within fourteen (14) days from the date of purchase. The said Online Registration could be carried out by downloading our Mobile App (“AMARON 36”) via Google Play Store and/ or Apple iOS Store. Once downloaded the said Mobile App, kindly follow the instructions and directions provided/ found in the said Mobile App, such as to scan the code of battery, upload the front photo of the vehicle with the registration number, mileage meter of the vehicle and the battery invoice, to complete the said registration. Warranty claim will be on 1 to 1 replacement basis (same model and same brand) and subject to Final Outcome, if any/ necessary. Failure/ delay to complete the Online Registration within the specified timeframe will render the Extended Warranty Period non-claimable and/ or become null and void. However, the Standard Warranty Period will still applicable and coverable for AMARON batteries purchased.

*More information please contact us by email VINBATTERYPJ@GMAIL.COM

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VIN BATTERY Delivery Hotline: 010 - 222 7373

(This is NOT an Amaron Customer Service Line)

This website is owned and operated by VIN BATTERY SUPPLIES

Company REG Number: 001828902-D

Address: 102, Block B, Jalan PJS 3/55, Taman Sri Manja, 46000 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.

Contact: 017-384 1229

E-mail: vinbatterypj@gmail.com
walao. I first time knew this.
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post Feb 1 2024, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Feb 1 2024, 04:27 PM)
you left the engine idle start/stop feature always ON , or got turn off everytime you drive ?

i heard the feature will shorten the battery life.
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To start car (proper) : Click Button Once --> Dashboards lights up --> Then Press Break Pedal --> Click Start Button again

To start car (unproper) : Press Break Pedal --> Click Start Button again --> Everything fully On.

To stop car : Put in Park and Pull Up Hand break --> Press Break Pedal --> Click Stop Button

Typically I won't turn on the circular fog/sport lights , as Bezza designed the dashboard too dark, I need the backlight on my dashboard on , which requires my circular fog lamps to be on.
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QUOTE(Jimat Suratman @ Feb 1 2024, 04:20 PM)
Normally that one shop will ask dealer to register for them. Or u can dm me barcode number at your battery. I can check for you.
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Will check it out after work! Thanks for your info.
If cant register myself I let you know.
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post Feb 1 2024, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Feb 1 2024, 04:23 PM)
Why didn’t u try batteriku. Their price is quite good the last time I was stranded. I check their price and online price. Similar
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too many competitors.
Now even Setel has car breakdown service, which is even cheaper!
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post Feb 1 2024, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 1 2024, 05:03 PM)
TS , your Bezza got Eco Idle ?
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Eco Idle is for Premium, not for second tier Bezza X

Apparently I didn't know you guys are mentioning this Start/Stop thing.
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post Feb 1 2024, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 1 2024, 05:16 PM)
The good quality batteries that I am getting directly from the manufacturer has no problems whatsoever. Haven't found one yet and there is a good reason for that. If there is a ever problem, it's going to be a big problem cause production is made innhuge batches and it's a freaking big problem.

My clients batteries that die prematurely within the warranty period will be immediately investigated and it's usually the drivers error. After the battery is properly recharged, they can still use it. No problems at all and the drivers learn not to repeat the same mistake.
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Well, I think newer cars less of an issue. hmm.gif
Hopefully my dashboard+fog lamps running won't be sucking too much power from the battery and/or alternator.
Really stupid feature of Bezza of designing a dashboard so recessed can't even read the speedometer under sunlight without the backlight on.

I normally only leave that on, heating element for rear windshield also off.
Only normally need to drive additional Xiaomi Dashcam from 5V/2A USB port and a 12V to 5V/9V/12V PD Charger Type C charger only rclxub.gif
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post Feb 1 2024, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Feb 1 2024, 07:53 PM)
I never bought battery for all the car in my house, my friend open scrap yard, so i just go there and take for free only... U will be surprised by how many battery is actually "misdiagnosed" or "scam" by mechanic.
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I mean somewhat true.
Sometimes just might need a basic recharge to get things going only sweat.gif

Even today I went to two car battery workshop, tell me different story on my Car Battery Health on their meters.
One say 20% SOC/SOH and another 50% SOC/SOH... rclxub.gif

I don't own one, but I curious the accuracy of these meters.
Who knows you recharge the battery can go another 3-6 months before really kicking the bucket after the electrolytes or ions are depleted.
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post Feb 1 2024, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Feb 1 2024, 07:48 PM)
Actually just use jumper cable connect to the connection at the dead car can dy don't have to connect to battery . At least this way u can reach home then buy car battery later .
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Well concern maybe got arcing or battery explode or battery is considered "shorted" state.
Will short out the car electronics, and ended up the with 2 cars with flat batteries or shorted electronics later.

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post Feb 1 2024, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Feb 1 2024, 08:02 PM)
This message is bought to you by Carput™
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at the end, not pakai karput also

 

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