AceCombat reporting in!!!

Today is a good day to do some benchy and oc stuff,so i decided to go and meet up my sponsor and get a Palit 8800GT 512MB 256bit version.
Palit is a well known brand which most of their products are highly overclockable and selling at bargain price.

Firstly,let's look at the shining box.

from the box we can see that it's just as big as those previous model that made by Palit,and Palit just replace the old green color box to a shining green color box.


Then,let's us look at the accessories that bundle together with the display card.
S-Video,VGA to DMI converter,molex to PCIE converter,Driver disc,user manual and a game.
The game that bundle together is Tomb Raider Anniversary


Rock and Roll babe,here comes the all new G92 8800GT from Palit,it has a katak hijau on top of the heat sink and it's a layer of sticker,the card got some weight.


As for the rear part,it has 12 screws locking the heat sink fan.the PCB is nVidia reference green color.


Alright,after a simple introduction,let's move on and install the card into a pc spec as below:
Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield B3 stepping
Asus Maximus Formula bios 0505 rev1.02g
Crucial 10th Anniversary 2*1GB DDR2 800MHz 4-4-4-12 (i standardize it)
Enermax Infiniti 650W Modular PSU
Western Digital Raptor 10k RPM 74.3GB
Cooler Master Stacker STC-T01 with a 200cfm fan blow directly from intake into GC area.
Driver: nvidia forceware 167.26

Let's move on,the machine is started!!!

Once the pc started,i installed the driver that bundle together with the GC,it's forceware 167.26,and i installed the Direct X 9.0c that bundle with the driver too.
and then i'll be using Riva Tuner 2.06 as the GC overclocking tool and CPU-z and GPU-z to confirm the spec of the hardwares.
Let's move on to the GC temperature.



for a single slot high core and memory clock speed GC,an idle temperature of 59c consider very good already,riva Tuner shows that teh GC is at the stock speed.

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Overclocking and Benchmark Section:
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First run of the GC,

whole rig remain stock speed except the ram.
Processor:Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme QX6700 @ 2.66GHz
RAM:800MHz 4-4-4-12
GC:Palit 8800GT core/mem/shader 600/1800/1500MHz



It's ready to go!!!

Temperature status:(600/1800/1500,stock)
59c idle
82c load

The temperature for load is a bit

and here it comes,the result for stock condition,unbelievable!!!!



Second Run of the GC
Quad @ 2.66GHz
RAM @ 800mhz CL4
GC @ 650/1900/1625 core/mem/shader

It's ready to go!!!


Temperature status:(650/1900/1625,OC-ed)
59c idle
84c load

and the result is here:small improvement.




Third run of the GC
Quad @ 2.66GHz
RAM @ 800mhz CL4
GC @ 700/2000/1750 core/mem/shader

On the mark!!!


Temperature Status:(700/2000/1750,OC-ed)
60c idle
85c load

and the result is here ya!!!





Suprisingly,this Palit 8800GT is not the highly overclockable card as we expeted from Palit,anything beyond 700/2000/1750 cannot pass the 3DMark06,even 705/1005 also failed the test

This post has been edited by AceCombat: Oct 28 2007, 03:33 AM

After found out that this Palit 8800GT is not really overclockable,i kinda disappointed.
i chose Palit because i wanna oc kaw kaw,but now only can oc a bit,maybe due to new technology,and they are not yet used to it.
so nevermind,i MAX out everything in order to get the highest score that i can get from the rig.

and now i oc become like this:
QX6700 @ 3.6GHz
RAM @ 960MHz
GC @ 700/2000/1750 core/mem/shader


and teh result is.........MAGNIFICENT!!!!








And this is the benchmark for 8800Ultra with :
QX6700 @ 3.7GHz
Asus P5K-Deluxe
OCZ Flex 2*1GB
Western Digital Raptor 36GB
Asus 8800 Ultra @ 684/2268/1647 core/mem/shader






RM920 Palit 8800GT-------------------14949 points
RM2699 Asus 8800Ultra---------------15412 points

Price different:RM1779
Points in 3dmark06 different:463 points

teh different is only 463 points when both come to oc,and not to mentioned that teh 8800Ultra rig is much more faster than this 8800GT rig,previously i did the 8800Ultra in LYN 3DMark06 database.
and one ultra=3x8800GT and i believe that a single 8800ultra cannot pawn 8800GT in SLi and if u have three PCIE slot,why dont u just put 3 units since their total price is only a single 8800 ultra?

Let's move on to disassemble the GC.

This post has been edited by AceCombat: Oct 28 2007, 03:44 AM

It's time to take off teh heat sink and see what is inside the babe

take off teh heat sink,the first thing i noticed is,teh core is much smaller than 8800GTS,GTX and Ultra,
but the layout of the ram and chip is almost same,take a look.
The ram of this Palit 8800GT is made by Qimonda,no wonder 2000MHz only




next,move to the heat sink,a giant copper base heat sink is located at the middle of teh heat sink fan and there is a lot of thermalpad for the ram chip.
the temperature that i shoed u guys is teh temp that uses stock thermalpaste.





Quality of component,as u expected froom Palit,standard quality component,but it looks tidy if arrange like this,just the thermalpad they never cut it nicely.




Lastly,the core,G92 exposed and it looks like this,nothing so special,written down made in taiwan and code G92,sorry my camera too suck,cannot zoom and macro it




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So,this is the end of my short review and benchmark and overclock of Palit 8800GT,sorry if my thread is messy,hope those value is useful for u guys.




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Enjoy!!!

Thanks and Regards
AceCombat
Leader of Penang's Overclocker Club

This post has been edited by AceCombat: Oct 28 2007, 03:53 AM

cant wait for the benchies!~

oh nice one...Palit really good...cheap price but good quality product...always include lots accesories inside...hope to see the benchies result soon...

thanks we are waiting for it. btw, can u post the price u got ur card.

nice review, the new generation of cards are really impressive performance wise....u mentioned Qimonda chips that palit use are not very overclockable, what chips shud we look out for?

Haha.... ROFL! I couldn't stop laughing! Acecombat with his mascot & trademark!!!

Oopsss, back to reading your review.... just couldn't resist that little plane....

This post has been edited by kmarc: Oct 28 2007, 04:11 AM

ace good job for u...

Nice job. Hope to see that little mascot again next time....

Don't be too disappointed at the max OC. I think that's the max OC for these 8800 series cards (at stock cooling), although the GT has a new core with the rams supposedly rated at 2 Ghz.....

So what's the retail price?

P.S. Ask somebody to sponsor a nice digital camera la..... just make sure you don't torture it too!!!

This post has been edited by kmarc: Oct 28 2007, 04:58 AM

this is not a messy review lah bro, very nice and understandable though.

looking at the benchies and the price of this card really makes me tempt to buy... aihhhhh, really wondering how it's gonna be like if this turns to SLI mode, must be superb and surely affordable for getting the satisfaction..

AceCombat~ That ur 8800GT? Nice Card Man~
It seen the performance between GT and GTX not Far~

very good review and thanks for the result in 3dmark06.....seems that nvidia is throwing the whole price = performance standard to the wind. most GTS, GTX, Ultra owners sure cry now over their expensive investment . ati had better have an ace up their sleeve with the upcoming 3800 series.

when's the benchies for the latest games?

Dude, you just started another war. "Tonight they'll dine in GARAGE SALES!!!"

This post has been edited by jcheong: Oct 28 2007, 07:38 AM

very impresive, very near to ultra performance... hv u test with crysis, wanna see how this baby perform... getting one in short

what if u apply a better thermal paste and do the test again. wanna know the temperature improvement.
anyone can test it with the HR-03?

quote from Guru3D forum

does that mean we can put in the Arctic Cooling NV Silencer 5?

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Oct 28 2007, 09:03 AM

the score alone is insane!!!!

how much the score will be if SLi X2 @ X3??? is it possible rite now to SLi X3??

no 3 way sli for 8800gt, it just avaliable for 8800gtx and ultra, due to sli 3 way need 2 sli connector on the card

wao ! very impresive card + nice review ! score 14xxx on 3dmark06 ,but temp quite heat
can find 8800GT aftermarket heatsink fan nowaday?
i saw palit yesterday on ALL IT
price is the same rm920 , he told me is the last unit in thier shop .
1st batch price , and some one told me 2nd batch will be most expensive !

This post has been edited by likito: Oct 28 2007, 09:06 AM

wow.. then better save money get the GT than the Ultra.. XD

ahaks!!! i miss that part

a good score indeed..even tapau 8800gtx it shud be much interesting if the card can perform sli'ed

@ acecombat,ur sponsor shop located in front of the lift one ka??i only knew swisspac alone and beside swisspac (new shop one)

This post has been edited by arc_archive: Oct 28 2007, 09:34 AM

This card is awsome

so far the benchy for 3dmark06 are good,
wana know how it go for the games,
Ace, you going to benchy the card with games?

reli awsome n the price even awsome to be true!!

time to sell 76GT

you using the same brand and same model with me,
you using normal version or XXX or extreme version?
got stock zalman fan or not?

better keep the card as spare card,
coz no second hand value for the card,
around RM300+- only...

wow...although i rarely overclock, but the performance sure very attractive to me

must get 1 when i got $$

EVGA 8800GT factory over clock at 700/2000 also @@.

nice job! but do you have available dx10 games for testing? @@

well anyway,i'm not a gamer and i dont even have any game with me right now,i fall in love to 8800GT liao,i might grab other brand and do a review again.

seriously,stock card condition ah,it pawn 8800GTS and 2900XT,even 8800GTX

The box looks tempting . but hell why they give TOMB RIDER as a free game lol. they should give some DX10 game instead since this card obviously pawn GTS. DO some crysis review on this card wanna seee can it cope up with this game

can you tried dual cards? at which good for all games except for madness Crysis..

This post has been edited by zeustronic: Oct 28 2007, 11:51 AM

Maximus Formula SE don't have SLI ability.

brilliant review mr acecombat

palit tarak budget 4 better games i guess

Aiyak 4got d...

i'll be damned seeing these results...
the only cons of this card is the temperature

u can use aftermarket heatsink on it.

the temp really change a lot if we use other heat sink?

i know that. u only play windows chess in ur kensfield's rig right??
anyway, thumbs up for a good informative review from the leader of POC....

of course the temp will drop a lot. depends on the cooler u used...Thermalright HR-03 can fit in this gc arr??

should be ok if dont overclock...but it still depends on the user it self..to change or not (is it void warranty)

without OC the benchmark is strong enough.. but the temperature quite high right??

So the die size does Matter....as the size got to 65mm the perf5ormance was a huge leap!

How bout the 65mm edition of 8800GTX?
Can use aftermarket cooler for the 8800GT?

anyway,i see that the socket and holder for the heat sink fan is excatly the same as 8800GTS,GTX and Ultra,that's mean HR-03 can be used on 8800GT.

anyway,the cooler is so small and tiny,but with the idle temp same as the giant heat sink of previous model of 8800,it works great,but the load temp really terrible la,

fan spin at the same 1600rpm as previous 8800.

Waaa.. u do review boh chio me go c

i just bought that ALLIT card wo wo wo for RM930 BUT! boi am i impressed imagine i havent upgrade driver and all running stock on my system i still get around 11K Points in 3d mark 06 i have a SLI ready systeam so it wont be long to 20K value or close when i have money for second card just scared the price go sky High... ASUS card next! (Asus 8800GT)

guy , r u bought palit 8800gt? , i saw that card yesterday

This post has been edited by likito: Oct 28 2007, 03:57 PM

temps seem a bit high..

if like that wonder how fast this gc can go if the cooler chnaged to HR-03 and oc more??

maybe could overtake the 8800GTX score ^,^

waiting to see any cooler may fit this GC.. hope HR-03 firs also.. XD.. i think should be can since the screw hole same and only the chipset reduce in size..

So means i can plug out my GTS cooler then plug in it onto new GT ?

not sure.. ask AceCombat see the screws same or not.. if same then no prob i guess..

Only X38 mobo can use this card ? Can P35 mobo use it ........

I wana sell mine as well.....yah no value......even less than RM 300 .........hai

Why not? Backward compatibility.

well,the screw is same type but the location of the hole i cant make sure as i dont have any 8800 with me right now.

and it cant fit 8800GTS hsf,see the place where the fan connector located,
nvidia purposely do it

Is there a big diff. if I use it with PCIe 2.0 and normal?

Zalman VF900 and the Fatality can fits. Thermalright HR03 non plus can fits. Got other brand but forgets.

just lil bit diff, don't waste ur money for pcie 2.0 mobo...

coz i thinking terus get another HR-03 for my 8800gt, but i love the bad doggie..

wow, this 88gt really rocks, too bad it cannot be clocked higher due to the single slot hsf, if the card is fitted with hr03 the shader and the core clock speed can be clocked higher...

ya,i thinks o too,but too bad the HR-03 plus is damn expensive.

yea.. need extra budget.. since strongbaby need refund me for my XFX 8800GTX i got extra budget to get HR-03.. XD lucky me..

yup, last time i checked its rm280 and u have to buy ur own fan...
btw bro AceCombat, have u checked out the thermaltake duOrb, from one review that i saw it's quite gud
btw, the reviewer was using 88gtx and it seems that the ambient temp was really low



for the link of teh review -> tt duOrb review

This post has been edited by ben_panced: Oct 28 2007, 10:43 PM

Hi folks, don't want to throw a hammer here but remember that the 8800GT does not support DX10.. and the ati is supposedly supports DX10.. so how to compare and which is better??? btw does the 8800gts and 8600gT (and those in the family) support DX10..Think they do, an I correct???

duh.. where in earth are u living??? under a rock???
8800gt supports dx10, infact, the 1st dx10 gpu is the 8800 series,
but if u're saying that 8800gt does not support dx10.1 then its correct..
and btw, all 8 series gc supports dx10

he is refering to DX10.1.. i think.. in other thread he also mention cant support DX10, but all 8xxx series does support DX10 but 8800GT dun support DX10.1..

wtf theres directx 10.1, microsoft finalize it la..

they all support dx10, but not dx10.1

only latest ATI chipset RV670 support Dx10.1 and SM4.1

ooppps bros, made big booboo eh?? please excuse as still trying to learn all the terms..btw what's the diff between DX10 and DX10.0 big2 diff??

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=c...d=6824&Itemid=2

try search in google for more news..

Thermalright HR-03(not Plus)、V2
Apack GX815、GX810
Zalman VF900、ZV9、VF1000

Can be used on 8800GT.

HR-03 or ZV9 better?

i think ZV9 is better gua...

Haha. No idea. HR-03 have to get another 92mm fan on it, extra spending. I think I will settle with ZV9.

@AceCombat
Have you tried running the GT with crysis? I know you're not into gaming but Crysis is THE game to test any new cards right now. Would be interesting to see some benchies on it. Moreover, you'll probably one of the first few to do this

i think i will get HR-03 who.. XD.. ZV9 how much ar market price..?

ZV9 RM175.
HR-03 RM199 with fan another RM30 or so.

i got simple solution for the gc cooling
last time my fan die
no money to spen i put 2 8mm fan on the gc blow on it
and it cooler than b4
tp cacat ah
buruk lagi tu
haha

zv9 last few month ago only rm165,nowaday zalman product keep on increasing price ...

This post has been edited by likito: Oct 29 2007, 08:34 AM

Yea, but I'm getting a 2nd hand with reasonable price. Just grab it. To all, please take note that the HSF mounting holes on 8800GT is not same as 8800GTS/GTX/Ultra, so HR-03 Plus won't fits, HR-03 Rev. A does. Cooler which can be used on 6600/6800/7800 and X1800/X1900 or compatible to it fits on 8800GT.

Now in the office. Will post by benchmark this evening. See if Gigabyte can go further.

seeing the majority of the cards
aren't it a bit peculiar that suddenly there is an influx of most manufacturer at the same time?
and some more the design is a bit generic

some how i feel that this card is going dow the nforce680i chipset path
with the product coming out right now is BBN/MBN (build by nvidia/made by nvidia)
and the companies just slap on their silk screen prints and stickers

All cards are nVIDIA reference, manufacturers just put their own sticker and their own BIOS to it.

Gee.... thx... i oso interest on how gigabyte 8800GT can go further...
coz i prefer giga more than palit... i hate frogs..
see u around at evening....

8800gt benchmark on dx10 games > http://www.n4g.com/News-76903.aspx

wat abt zalman zv9.. would it fit on this?

Yes, ZV9 is possible.

Might change mine too if got ZV9 cheap-cheap. The metal that cover the whole card is damn hot liao. Means the stock cooler is not doing well.

p.s Will the 3 years warranty will void if i open up the stock cooler ? Hope not lol. Any advice ?

but the power regulators are not covered

get a TT dual orb lar.......... but i dunno whether malaysia got stock and does it fit or not......... twin fans.....definately cover everything i supposed

yeah i am also wondering will warranty be void if the stock cooler is taken off to give space for better non-stock coolers?

it wont void the warranty cause if anything happened,just replace back the stock hsf then send for rma.

How about the thermal tape? My Asus thermal tape which is protruding out at the sides looks like it is 5-years old.... anywhere to buy similar thermal tapes?

thermaltape can be found mah,cooler master still producing it.

Here is the results of my Gigabyte 8800GT

p.s All is in stock settings for my rigs, only higher up the GC GPU Clock & Memory Clock (Shader) only

Stock Setting :-



Overclock GPU : 700 Memory : 1000 Shader 1750




Tried 720 & 750, both also fail 3DMark06.

Might get higher results if i overclock my system rig.

This post has been edited by NazaKia2u: Oct 29 2007, 06:11 PM