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 Giant solar farm planned in Johor..., as solar panel price fall rapidly

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post Jan 22 2024, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(RViN @ Jan 22 2024, 01:39 PM)
This is stupid ... they should do as much as possible to get people to install solar on their homes, that will spread out the generating capacity and will reuse space (roofs) instead of clearing large swaths of land that can be used for something else - especially if it results in deforestation.

Also if you're providing incentives for people to install solar in their homes you dont have much if any capital outlay either.

This is why you see in other advanced countries they dont generally build big solar plants but get their residents to put up solar on their roofs. Its a win win win situation.

But here ... build big big power plants so that certain parties can benefit with crony deals, its the case with coal plants, damns, and now solar plants.
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Hello….malaysians pandai kira one okay? Where got so easy to use their house?

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post Jan 22 2024, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 22 2024, 11:54 AM)
Last time the argument probably correct when compared to the cost of solar.

the price of solar have come down 80-85% the last 10 years...

will that argument still make sense now?

even much colder climate EU country like Germany is going big on solar now
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solar cost is not only on the panel,.. the cost also on the size of land,..
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post Jan 22 2024, 01:48 PM

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post Jan 22 2024, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 22 2024, 01:47 PM)
solar cost is not only on the panel,.. the cost also on the size of land,..
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post Jan 22 2024, 02:36 PM

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post Jan 22 2024, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 22 2024, 01:43 PM)
Hello….malaysians pandai kira one okay? Where got so easy to use their house?
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Hello? You read my post or simply comment?

No one is talking about letting others use your house.

Its about getting people to install solar on their own, like you see its common to do in Australia, Netherlands, Germany etc.
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post Jan 22 2024, 02:54 PM

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post Jan 22 2024, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(RViN @ Jan 22 2024, 02:52 PM)
Hello? You read my post or simply comment?

No one is talking about letting others use your house.

Its about getting people to install solar on their own, like you see its common to do in Australia, Netherlands, Germany etc.
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You should think again and throw your old mindset…how to getting people to install solar? Subsidy?
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post Jan 22 2024, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 22 2024, 01:47 PM)
solar cost is not only on the panel,.. the cost also on the size of land,..
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Y need to use land ? Put on water even more efficient, it provides cooling for the solar panels as well.

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post Jan 22 2024, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jan 22 2024, 04:10 PM)


Y need to use land ? Put on water even more efficient, it provides cooling for the solar panels as well.
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Yeap. Brilliant.

No need spend money to keep cutting undergrown bushes/grass for maintenance as well.
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post Jan 22 2024, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 22 2024, 03:13 PM)
Yeap. Brilliant.

No need spend money to keep cutting undergrown bushes/grass for maintenance as well.
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nope,.. this size it's cutting down jungle,..
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post Jan 22 2024, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jan 22 2024, 03:10 PM)


Y need to use land ? Put on water even more efficient, it provides cooling for the solar panels as well.
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Singapore also has....around Sembawang there bordering Johor
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post Jan 22 2024, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(RViN @ Jan 22 2024, 01:39 PM)
This is stupid ... they should do as much as possible to get people to install solar on their homes, that will spread out the generating capacity and will reuse space (roofs) instead of clearing large swaths of land that can be used for something else - especially if it results in deforestation.

Also if you're providing incentives for people to install solar in their homes you dont have much if any capital outlay either.

This is why you see in other advanced countries they dont generally build big solar plants but get their residents to put up solar on their roofs. Its a win win win situation.

But here ... build big big power plants so that certain parties can benefit with crony deals, its the case with coal plants, damns, and now solar plants.
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There's already a program from SEDA called NEM 3.0 but it's not lucrative. ROI too long for consumer
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post Jan 22 2024, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 22 2024, 03:24 PM)
There's already a program from SEDA called NEM 3.0 but it's not lucrative. ROI too long for consumer
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ROI is 4.5 to 5 years is too long?
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post Jan 22 2024, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jan 22 2024, 04:46 PM)
ROI is 4.5 to 5 years is too long?
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No it is 10 years!
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post Jan 22 2024, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Jan 22 2024, 01:10 PM)
Sabah or Sarawak got abundance green energy lay waste due to no place to store it . How much energy is it , if connect to west Mal yr tnb bill can go down 10 cent but due to plotikus thing no one want to do this .
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Sarawak yes, Sabah no. Sabah actually not really enough electricity now, some kota kinabalu areas experience rolling blackouts...
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post Jan 22 2024, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 22 2024, 04:48 PM)
No it is 10 years!
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I am a user, are you one too? You got your 10 years from some old folk tale?

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post Jan 22 2024, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jan 22 2024, 04:49 PM)
I am a user, are you one too?
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No I inquired about this before. Many advise me since my bill is between 200 - 300 a month, not worth to install solar...better to do energy savings...which I did
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post Jan 22 2024, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Jan 22 2024, 01:10 PM)
Sabah or Sarawak got abundance green energy lay waste due to no place to store it . How much energy is it , if connect to west Mal yr tnb bill can go down 10 cent but due to plotikus thing no one want to do this .
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Sebab hard to lay straight cable from S'wak to Semenanjung, as you have Riau (Indonesia) in the middle.
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post Jan 22 2024, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 22 2024, 04:50 PM)
No I inquired about this before. Many advise me since my bill is between 200 - 300 a month, not worth to install solar...better to do energy savings...which I did
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200 no need solar la ...... ayo...but it's not 10 years as you claimed.

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