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post Nov 25 2024, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Billy.Who @ Nov 25 2024, 01:26 PM)
Both the ZTE & Nokia were sold before I could get them lol.

Ended up with a Zyxel NR5103E that was unfortunately faulty. Seems that there is a batch around that mostly functional other than totally being unable to connect to 5G (https://www.facebook.com/pendakwahteknologi...750048315/?_rdr)

Gotta start searching yet again for another modem...
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so what are u going to do with the nr5103e?

already tested in other area?

or use it as 4G modem router only?

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post Nov 25 2024, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Billy.Who @ Nov 25 2024, 02:29 PM)
Tested it in PJ/Kelana and Bandar Sri Damansara, both of which should have solid or at the very least decent DNB 5G coverage. Yet the modem could never establish a 5G connection.. very likely a faulty batch as per the link. Have also seen similar comments on platforms like Shopee, Lazada, forums etc.

Got it off Carousell and I'm fortunate that the seller is willing to provide a refund
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you are lucky got the refund.

that's why in another thread i only recommend tplink x50 5g and nv510 from authorised tplink seller.

too risky to buy a 5g modem router from grey market but end up becomes a paper weight.
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post Nov 25 2024, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Billy.Who @ Nov 25 2024, 03:11 PM)
? The problem is specific to the NR5103E (Three (the telco) variant). Most of the stuff on Lazada/Shopee should be fine if they're unlocked.

Buyers just need to be somewhat familiar with the tech to ensure that the units support the necessary bands to work in Malaysia. Although in some cases the savings might not be worthwhile since the pricing is relatively high, around 100-300 cheaper than official units. Then again the people who resort to such channels probably don't have the financials to spare so the savings no matter how little may be significant for them
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yea, i agree with u.
but the x50 5g price has gone down pretty much, no point to be penny wise pound foolish.

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post Nov 29 2024, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Noice @ Nov 29 2024, 11:54 AM)
Hey guys just saw OOKAS at Shopee begin selling Archer NX200, just wondering how does it compare to Deco x50-5g?

https://shopee.com.my/ookas/26815854842

The seller did mention the NX200 is a mediatek based chipset.

Just wanted something that is easy to set up, with official support for DNB.
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it looks like tplink own NX510v but with inferior mediatek chipset.

if it's not cheaper than X50-5G, i didn't see the point of getting this.

X50-5G price reference
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110835463
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post Mar 3 2025, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(kk2628 @ Mar 3 2025, 03:35 PM)
Hi, Is the info of these above router still good in 2025 ?
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with official warranty
tplink x50 5g
tplink nx510v (beware telco set)
tplink nx200

without official warranty, so buy at your own risk
zyxel nr5103e with three logo
olax g5018
gteniq cp570 iq02x55
nokia fastmile 3
arcadyan aw1000 with qwrt firmware
zyxel nr5103e v2
zlt x25 pro

big boys like zte and huawei hard to differentiate from exterior look whether it is telco set or not, some with and some without telco logo printed on outside.


for normal user, i recommend tplink if u don't want to have risk.

if you want to go with risk, olax g5018 is a good choice due to its user friendly interface. gteniq cp570 also similar, you can go youtube watch its setting first before making decision.

if u want endless setting to play with, arcadyan aw1000 with qwrt firmware will be your choice.

if u want cheap, nokia fastmile 3. (if you are sure your area with good 5G signal because it can't lock band)

remember always get mediatek t750/t830, qualcomm x55/x62/x65/ (or above) 5g chipset based modem.
also beware don't fall into seller's trap like:
1. locked telco set
2. mention qualcomm chipset (for wifi only) without mention unisoc 5g modem chipset.

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QUOTE(kk2628 @ Mar 3 2025, 11:08 PM)
@BOTAK_WAI Thank you very much for your detail update of the info. Very useful for me. For the tp link x50 5g, I think I have read some thread saying that are some issues of setting or connection ? But I am not able to find them now. Anyway, thanks again.
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u mean this guy?

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110138748
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post Mar 3 2025, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(kk2628 @ Mar 3 2025, 11:08 PM)
@BOTAK_WAI Thank you very much for your detail update of the info. Very useful for me. For the tp link x50 5g, I think I have read some thread saying that are some issues of setting or connection ? But I am not able to find them now. Anyway, thanks again.
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if u really care about the settings, i really recommend the olax g5018, the interface really good.


gteniq feel a bit "cheap"



arcadyan aw1000 with qwrt firmware settings too much for normal user.

there is also a good 5g modem router from taobao, but quite pricey.
Fiberhome LG6851F (2nd gen with wifi7)

no matter what kind of 5g modem router, i always recommend to turn off the built in wifi, and connect to another strong wifi router (access point mode). good wifi with fem generate quite a lot of heat.

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QUOTE(xswatch @ Mar 3 2025, 11:57 PM)
I'm using olax g5018 for about 7 months already. so far so good. no issue at all. can change imei very useful, saves me a lot in the long run. the only thing not tested yet is connect to external antenna. because a decent external antenna quite expensive & I'm satisfied with the built in antenna speed at the moment (200-300mbps with 3 bars out of 4 signal).
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too bad fiberhome LG6851F cost too high, malaysia reseller no bring in. fiberhome in china really put a lot of efforts in communicate with users to keep improving their firmware.

more review for ppl who are still on the fence in comparison

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post Mar 4 2025, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(kk2628 @ Mar 4 2025, 01:49 AM)
I read this but not the one which saying change from x50 5g to zyxel or gteniq. Nvm, I think you have provided very useful info. I think I'll go for TPLink nx200 as it should support all telco in Malaysia.

Your recommendation "no matter what kind of 5g modem router, i always recommend to turn off the built in wifi, and connect to another strong wifi router (access point mode). good wifi with fem generate quite a lot of heat." is very good.

Actually I was thinking to just get a 5g usb dongle and plug into old Asus router RT-AC55U. I have tried with the 4G dongle but it seems not working with YES power 35 plan.
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nx200 should be ok as feedback by forumer here.

usb dongle not a good idea, how to fit so many antennas and heatsink into such small package, don't waste money. 5g phone with usb 3.x port (not all type-c usb port is usb 3.x) makes more sense than a usb dongle. (so that u can use ethernet tethering)

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post Mar 8 2025, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Feb 3 2025, 09:45 AM)
Wanna ask if there is recommended cheap yet good modem at taobao
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maybe u might want to have a look from this shop

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=777049255388



You will find it hard to search for suitable 5G modem router in taobao because many of them are their local telco locked model.

so tips to search is go alibaba.com and search for "5G CPE" or relevant keywords, then save the pictures and use image search function in taobao.

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post Mar 16 2025, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(vkashin @ Mar 16 2025, 09:34 AM)
Looking for options for a new budget 5g modem as my VN007+ is facing a weird problem
Previously I was using it at 4G only area, and manage to reach 50-80Mbps download on U Home 5G
Now I’ve transferred to a city with 5G coverage, but only manage to average 30-50Mbps download and upload on speedtest.
I know it’s not the sim problem because using the same card with Olax MF650 gets me minimum 250Mbps download on speedtest as well.
And a weird thing is after i perform factory reset on the VN007+, the speedtest can reach 270Mbps, but only for about 5 minutes  doh.gif
In the meantime using my UHome 5G with the MF650

Currently looking at Nokia Fastmile 3 (saw it listed as under 500 recently on shopee)
And NX200

Any suggestion on which to use?
Hi. Do you know what chipset does the nx200 use?
Currently using Olax MF650, pretty happy with its battery life and speed. Size is also very portable and lightweight
Only disadvantage I can think of is that the battery is not easily replaceable
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didn't state but should be mediatek t750, if u have doubt then take x50-5g, it uses snapdragon x62.
rule of thumb: if didn't clearly state the modem chipset, always treat it as unisoc chipset based, because if just write "chipset: mediatek", it can be using unisoc modem + mediatek cpu/wifi.

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post Mar 17 2025, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(vkashin @ Mar 17 2025, 10:18 AM)
yeah, hence I've been looking at Nokia Fastmile 3, seems like best bang-for-the-buck option currently
the superadmin login option seems like requiring to use ADB access etc? might only have time to do that after raya
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remember to collect and apply 15% discount vc.

price guide:
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post Mar 19 2025, 11:49 PM

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saw china reviewer shared this external antenna
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https://www.douyin.com/note/7207630524628634892
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=801330930677

and i saw this from taobao seems not bad too
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https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=764456178179
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=819104518523 (N to TS9)
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=717009257150 (N to SMA)


Current best 5G routers you could easily get from taobao/aliexpress are:
1. FiberHome 5G CPE Pro LG6851F
2. ZTE G5 PRO MC8512

both are Mediatek T830 platform based.

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post Mar 19 2025, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Mar 19 2025, 11:52 PM)
Currently using TPLink Deco X50 5G with YES simcard. First week was good, can get 400mbps inside house. Recently drop to 4G and sometimes no connection. Not sure whether its the simcard problem or the router problem.   rclxub.gif
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try get a NEW DiGi Prepaid sim card and test with this one-time pass add-on (take note that one-time pass on legacy plan might not have 5G access)
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or Unifi Mobile Prepaid Data Pass
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QUOTE(Billy.Who @ Mar 20 2025, 12:42 PM)
Anyone using 5G broadband in a condo? Any recommendations for a modem with decent connection strength? What about external antennas? Any success using them to boost the signal enough for a good connection?

Currently staying at around the equivalent to the 18th-20th floor (condo is on elevated ground/hill). Getting decent 5G reception (5/5bars; ~100++ - 200++mbps) via a Zyxel NR5103E and its internal antennas.

When using the same SIM (Yes 5G) on my phone, its only able to get 4G so the modem is likely doing the heavylifting. The phone's own Maxis sim is able to get a 5G connection though at lower speeds (~50mbps - below 100mbps) vs 300-500+mbps at ground level.

So in addition to the relatively high floor, there is also the problem with Yes 5G's poorer connection..  Was thinking of adding the antennas since the NR5103E supports it and it would be more cost effective than getting another 5G modem.
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Dec 21 2024, 09:53 PM)
For condo if you staying high floors, 5G is almost guaranteed to be weak. That's because the antenna used by telcos are usually pointing slightly downwards.

You can use an antenna but you need to point it right and usually need to install it outdoor.

And no matter what you do, just remember that 5G is still wireless and it can never be as stable and consistent as fiber.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110965390

photo from shopee, buy from taobao much cheaper. refer to my post above.
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(Test it by yourself, info might not be accurate, just a rough idea for your reference)
CON4/Main1 (top) - 4G Primary (connect to the antenna optimized for b28 700mhz)
CON3/Div1 - 5G Diversity (connect to the antenna optimized for n78 3500mhz)
CON2/Main2 - 5G Primary (connect to the antenna optimized for n78 3500mhz)
CON1/Div2 (bottom) - 4G Diversity (connect to the antenna optimized for b28 700mhz)

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post Mar 21 2025, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Mar 21 2025, 08:59 AM)
Does it work well?

My experience with China antenna many years ago is they pump out a ton of fake antenans sweat.gif

Some will make it worst, some not doing anything at all, good ones are hard to find cause this thing is somewhat not legal to be sold to end user (grey area)
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i have no idea.

but for sure those extremely cheapo antennas are not better than the built in 1.

if one wants to have safe bet, then slowly search for those branded antennas like huawei, zte, h3c.

again, 4G or 5G modem router are very sensitive to the placement, even few cm apart. here i share again my trick to find a better rough spot for placement before fine tune.

QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Dec 4 2024, 07:16 PM)
wanna share 1 trick for u guys to locate best spot to place your 5G modem router.

take a samsung 5G phone and dial *#0011#

then select your 5G sim (sim1 / sim2)

then place your phone on the spot you want to put the 5G modem router.

check and see which spot has the best RSRP signal. (-80 is stronger than -90)

SINR higher is better. (5 is higher than -5)

normally the corner of the wall near window has better signal.
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post Mar 21 2025, 09:36 AM

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oh ya, those big boys 5G modem router like nokia fastmile even have few variants to cater different region with different optimization in antenna for specified frequency.

it's written in the modem router user manual.

so don't be surprised when u see there are vodafone telco variant zte mc888 ultra that's using snapdragon x62 optimized for uk sub-6ghz band and also other variant zte mc888a ultra that's using snapdragon x65 optimized for mmwave for us market.

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for typical condo like this, i recommend to put the 5G modem router (turn off the built-in wifi) on "A" spot and put a strong wifi router like ax73 or tuf-ax4200 (put in access point mode) on "B" spot, and connect both with cat6 lan cable.

this is just an idea, you gotta find your best spot for best signal. usually good spot for 5g signal not good for wifi signal coverage and vice versa.

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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Mar 21 2025, 10:32 PM)
Anyone uses tenda 5g01? Price is affordable around rm500. Hows the performance?
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12nm, so it's not mediatek or qualcomm modem. so it's a NO from me.

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post Mar 24 2025, 08:41 PM

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https://s.lazada.com.my/s.pd556

saw this from laz, seller claim got warranty from zte malaysia, don't know legit or not.

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