It's a norm for Cloud based devices and IoT.

Nothing alarming as Tesla and Google IoT devices also does the same all the time regardless if you've activated your account or not.
To be able to cut off from their cloud servers is considered more of a security threat as anyone who gains access to your CCTV network or routers.

It has to constantly update your device status to the cloud network for monitoring the uptime/activities for AI processing to predict threats or abnormal activities.

You should only be wary if your CCTV is pointing to your toilet or it's transferring gigs of data daily but then again if you're on remote cloud recording using the manufacturer's storage servers it's also normal.

Those thieves or robbers break into your house, they can't destroy the evidence as the video is continuously uploaded to the remote servers for safe storage.

Why not? It's the future of IoT and AI adoption.

If you're not selling shit to CCP, then you're selling it to the Western Jews or Bharatians instead.
There's no escape unless you cut yourself out from the internet entirely.

You need to trade privacy for transparency.

How about selling to none of them and just host the stuff yourself and use proper routing rules?

And if I had no choice, I’d rather sell the stuff to westerners than CCP.

You mean closed based offline CCTVs?

Not safe either, robber or thieves enter your house smash up the network recorder all your evidences destroyed.

Yeah right, why just only China? Westerners and Western Asia are saints? You unaware of the darkening of Europe and the West?

impressive

Frustrating that Samsung Malaysia is the only mobile probider Did not enable 6ghz band

I can get close to 500Mbps, sometimes slightly exceed for download. Upload will be a bit under 500Mbps.

Router Wifi- Tplink AX72.

PC 1 - Tplink TXE75E PCIE x1 Wifi (intel AX210 chipset)
PC 2 - Gigabyte Aorus 450 i Pro Wifi (some older Intel AC chipset)

Phones cannot though (all WIFI AC) max around 250Mbps to 300Mbps.

Key is wireless mesh backhauling.

With 6GHz backhaul, it's now possible to do 10Gbps. File transfer from/to NAS will be quick.

For you to take advantage of this, you probably want to have a fat pipe to begin with. Anything less than 1Gbps from your ISP. you will be probably better to stick with older WIFI standard.

I'm looking forward to get this: https://dongknows.com/asus-zenwifi-bq16-pro-review/ to see if I could finally get near to 1Gbps wirelessly on my secondary mesh.

my iphone can get 400Mbps close to 500Mbps via my wifi 5 mesh also.

BQ16 lol

If u hav wifi based NAS, maybe?

it's probly the top performer for wifi7.

it's even got the combination of afc and mlo which will be a game changer.





the question though, what client do you have which is wifi7?

heck the samsung S24 Ultra can't even do it in malaysia afaik
https://r1.community.samsung.com/t5/galaxy-...25895844/page/4


so you'd need a phone with working wiifi 7. pixel 8 wifi7 seems subpar compared to one of those chinese brand phones.


for pc/laptop there is the intel wifi7 card. but this pcie addon won't work well on amd systems i heard.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1ay52...g_wifi7_on_amd/



all i'm saying, wifi 7 is good, but you need the appropriate client to connect to it to truly get wifi 7. we are getting there for sure, but it's probably still too early.

You can get a XE75 2 pack for half the price of an a BE65. One is wifi 6e and the other is wifi7. if you simply just need wifi, then the cheaper option is not bad. but if you don't mind paying a premium then the wifi 7 is ok i guess.

if you want the very best of wifi7, only the asus zen bq16-pro you mentioned has that the combination of afc with mlo. but like dong's review mentioned, it has it's own quirks. like slow apply settings

Just do your own setup. Everyone is not trustable.
https://frigate.video/

can anyone explain why eap-773 cost double in shopee, but on amazon is half the price?

Also for the amazon price, shopee sells you the older eap-673 which is a wifi 6


i've already ordered a eap-773 with free shipping to malaysia (there is an import deposit however, though it's still within reason).

I will do the initial benchmark using my Samsung S24 Ultra brand new.

All i am saying is, do not order this model ap from shopee. Cauz you will pay double the price of amazon. lel

ps: if there is issue you need cover under warranty, no idea what to do then. Will tplink still cover it despite the overseas order? keep that in mind, i don't have the answer either




@sitescope

even if your wifi cannot max out your internet, that is your isp issue. Get faster internet subscription speed, then you can complain why your wifi isn't keeping up then.

But the short answer is what soonwai said basically.

The longer reason elaborating on that talking point, wifi 7 will then (beyond usage for internet access) be for LOCAL LAN speed over wifi. Then your bottle neck would be a few things

1. your wifi ap. wifi 6? wifi7? even then not all these are equal, there are solid reliable ones and there bad ones. And ones with premium features, take like the zen wifi that has AFC for wifi7

2. your client device. If you have a wifi7 and you want to take full advantage of it, then you need a wifi 7 client. A pixel 8 has wifi 7, but it doesn't have 320 MHz band which the Samsung S24 Ultra does. Even the client you pick needs to be capable to get the most out of it.

3. your switch connected to the wireless ap. If your ap uses a 10g ethernet, then connect it to a 10g port as well. That is not to say you will get 10g speeds for wifi. But it eliminates any possible bottlenecks. Just make sure you use a switch matching your equipment to avoid bottleneck.

4. there a few client devices that current support wifi7. For amd desktop pcs, you can get a msi wifi7 pcie adapter that has the qualcom chip in it, this supports amd systems for wifi7. For intel systems, they have the intel chipset wifi7 pcie addon cards (these don't work on amd). For laptops they may have wifi 7 already in it, if not you can get the module to add that capability assuming you can install it into the laptop.

the other popular device is the smartphone. You pixel 8 (it doesn't have 320 MHz band because this is possibly an early iteration of wifi7 so is lacking in features. If i'm not mistaken it's capped at 160 MHz), Samsung S24 Ultra (the non ultra for S24 do not have wifi 7 because they use the exynos chip which confirm does not have it).
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/commen...ve_functioning/

Eventually years later more devices will get wifi7, but for now these 3 things are most likely to have it and be using it for now e.g. desktop/laptop/smartphones



so talking in regards for local lan speed case scenario, do you need wifi7? probably not, especially at these premium prices. You can go out and get a wifi 6e system for half the price of what you are paying for wifi 7. Some even cost a lot more.

wifi7 has shorter range and may require line of sight. But for some wireless 7 aps like the zen wifi, they have something afc which would give it a similar range as 5GHz.

MLO is also another interesting feature wifi7 has for making full use of your wifi to get good speeds and reliability.



fyi i was testing a samsung s24 ultra with a wifi5 ubiquiti unifi ap lite. I am able to stream netflix 4k, flac lossless music from navidrome, file transfers to my other devices on the network just fine. So you see even the outdated wifi can already do these things without any lag. though range, throughput are still things to be aware of among other things.

Wifi 7 just makes it better but isn't must for everyone just yet. One of the other benefits of wifi 7, you can use a range outside your neighbours so that their wifi won't affect yours. This is one important use for say 6GHz. Nearby the 2.4GHz and 5GHz is all very congested

So that is how you can make use of wifi 7

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 27 2024, 05:10 PM

FYI. The BQ16 is available for purchase.

I am surprise we get the 6GHz Pro version. But I am not complaining.

but it's so expensive. on shopee is 3k for 1 unit. i imagine with mesh its 4-6k or something. their out of stock.

the cheapest wifi 7 for 2 unit i saw either a eap-773 (ordered from amazon. it's not a router. it's only a wireless ap)

Or the deco be65 (shopee)

for 2 pack for either of this is RM2k. Not cheap but still better in pricing than the asus.

But the asus has one neat feature AFC to make the 6ghz a similar range to that of 5ghz supposedly
https://dongknows.com/asus-zenwifi-bq16-pro-review/


it has weird quirks like a slow boot up, and whenever changing settings also slow to commit? read dong's review for the details.


Also consider wifi 6e, a 2pack TP LINK Deco XE75 is RM1k (half the price of the wifi7 2 pack mesh options i mentioned above). Heck, if you are not even bothered with 2pack, and fine with just 1 unit, then it goes down to rm577



another wifi option is the ubiquiti u7 pro. subtel on shopee has this for about 1k. This ubiquiti is a wireless ap only (not a router. it's only a wireless ap)


This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 23 2024, 04:58 PM

yes very pricey unit.

I think the general issue with WiFi 7 is the 6GHz range as even the mid range WiFi 7 routers struggle horribly on 6GHz range.

Fun fact, the range of WiFi 6E routers on 6GHz will beat most WiFi 7 routers. In order to perform well on 6GHz, the manufacturers have to use really expensive RF components hence they are only used on the flagship lineup.

That's because Wi-Fi 7 works up to MCS13 (4096QAM) with 320MHz wide channel. Wi-Fi 6E is only MCS11 (1024QAM) with 160MHz wide channel.

The 6GHz MCS11 power output on a flagship WiFi 6E router is around +18dDm. is One of the engineers share with me that WiFi RF component that can output +18dBM at 6GHz MCS13 is ridiculously expensive. Hence they are opting for cheaper alternative that only do +14dBM unless on their flagship model.

Don't be surprised when 5GHz outperforms 6GHz on a mid-range or entry level 6GHz WiFi 7 routers after a wall if they can even penetrate a wall.

yeah i followed your blog.

for myself, how i would use wifi7, is have it in the same room as my client device in line of sight.


then, if i want wifi7 in another area in the home, i'd have ANOTHER ap in that location (connected via wired ethernet. not sure if omada eap support wireless meshing backhaul?), and for say tplink omada, there is mesh, AI roaming, seamless transition for clients when switching between aps depending on which offers the better signal.

So that is how i would go about it.

I wouldn't expect wifi7 to punch through walls and go long distances. Though i wonder if the asus zen with afc can do that or not?




This is the teardown of the eap-773 v1.6 (this is the one i have)
https://www.reddit.com/r/TPLink_Omada/comme..._eap773_ver_16/


Not sure what component is in it


another way to put it, would most people notice the difference in terms of actual use between wifi6e and wifi7? probably not (especially if u aren't using the 1gbps or 2gbps broadband plans). But they will most definitely notice a difference between dolling out either RM1k or Rm2k or 4-6k (assuming they are going for a 2pack for a mesh setup as their baseline wifi setup) for their next wireless mesh/ap

Also if all you need to is 6ghz to counter congestion in you area for wifi, then the wifi 6e 6ghz should have you covered.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 24 2024, 07:58 AM

There seems to be a Triband version of BQ16 (called BT10) instead of quadband.

It should presumably be cheaper. No news on price yet, might be worth losing one 5Ghz band if the price is right.