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blacktubi
post Jan 20 2024, 08:57 PM

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I already have Wi-Fi 7 device and tested at least 5 different Wi-Fi 7 routers. Here's some of my key TLDR findings

Wi-Fi 7 is not just about 6GHz. It enhanced the spectrum efficiency on 5GHz and 2.4GHz device as well.

There are Wi-Fi 7 devices without 6GHz band support in the market (Honor Magic 5 Pro). Similarly, you will see Wi-Fi 7 routers without 6GHz coming soon.

On a Wi-Fi 7 supported device used with a flagship Wi-Fi 7 router on the 5GHz band, you will get around 20-30% faster speed than a flagship Wi-Fi 6/6e router.

However, a flagship Wi-Fi 6/6e router will still outperform a mid-tier Wi-Fi 7 router on 2.4GHz and 5GHz.

Wi-Fi 7 on 6GHz is ridiculously fast at around 3000Mbps if it's within 5m line of sight, doubling performance on WiFi 6e.

Backwards compatibility is great, never had any issue even with my old IoT devices.

The best thing for now is probably the CPU upgrade. TP-Link Archer BE800 comes with 2.2GHz Qualcomm, ASUS is even ridiculous going all the way up to 2.6GHz Broadcom. Warn: All of them are hot.

Edit: All Wi-Fi 7 routers I tested currently are really stable, benefits older devices as well. All of them have the consistency of enterprise grade Wi-Fi access points, even on iPhone 12 Pro.

This post has been edited by blacktubi: Jan 20 2024, 08:59 PM
blacktubi
post Jan 21 2024, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(brandonkl @ Jan 21 2024, 01:21 AM)
Apologies for my ignorance. How to get 3000 Mbps when our ISP in Malaysia max is 2 Gbps?
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I host my own Speedtest server with a 10G Interface
blacktubi
post Jan 21 2024, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(sparketh @ Jan 21 2024, 10:10 AM)
And higher frequency of the wifi means less far it can go. Wifi 6e? If u want fastest apeed need to be within 6 feet.  Anything further then ur 800mbps speeds drops to 200mbps aje. Also iu devices need to have wifi 7 antenna or not also no point.  Theoretically only benefit of wifi 7, is less channel congestion since all ur neighbours still b40 and using wiifi 6
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If you’re upgrading from a free WiFi 6 router from ISP to even an entry level WiFi 7 router, even your old WiFi 6 device will experience a 20-30% speed improvement

That’s because of a new router comes with better WiFi components and all of them benefit older devices as well
blacktubi
post Jan 23 2024, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Susuwatari @ Jan 23 2024, 11:02 AM)
Will it be OK to mix a Wifi7 node and a 6E main router under AiMesh?
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Yup, works well.

Cross model compatibility is great on their Broadcom CPU based models.
blacktubi
post Feb 28 2024, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(nles @ Feb 28 2024, 02:51 PM)
RM3988  brows.gif
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I will wait for the ZenWiFi series laugh.gif

My XT12 been serving me well
blacktubi
post Jul 23 2024, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 23 2024, 04:52 PM)
but it's so expensive. on shopee is 3k for 1 unit. i imagine with mesh its 4-6k or something. their out of stock.

the cheapest wifi 7 for 2 unit i saw either a eap-773 (ordered from amazon. it's not a router. it's only a wireless ap)

Or the deco be65 (shopee)

for 2 pack for either of this is RM2k. Not cheap but still better in pricing than the asus.

But the asus has one neat feature AFC to make the 6ghz a similar range to that of 5ghz supposedly
https://dongknows.com/asus-zenwifi-bq16-pro-review/
it has weird quirks like a slow boot up, and whenever changing settings also slow to commit? read dong's review for the details.
Also consider wifi 6e, a 2pack TP LINK Deco XE75 is RM1k (half the price of the wifi7 2 pack mesh options i mentioned above). Heck, if you are not even bothered with 2pack, and fine with just 1 unit, then it goes down to rm577
another wifi option is the ubiquiti u7 pro. subtel on shopee has this for about 1k. This ubiquiti is a wireless ap only (not a router. it's only a wireless ap)
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I think the general issue with WiFi 7 is the 6GHz range as even the mid range WiFi 7 routers struggle horribly on 6GHz range.

Fun fact, the range of WiFi 6E routers on 6GHz will beat most WiFi 7 routers. In order to perform well on 6GHz, the manufacturers have to use really expensive RF components hence they are only used on the flagship lineup.

That's because Wi-Fi 7 works up to MCS13 (4096QAM) with 320MHz wide channel. Wi-Fi 6E is only MCS11 (1024QAM) with 160MHz wide channel.

The 6GHz MCS11 power output on a flagship WiFi 6E router is around +18dDm. is One of the engineers share with me that WiFi RF component that can output +18dBM at 6GHz MCS13 is ridiculously expensive. Hence they are opting for cheaper alternative that only do +14dBM unless on their flagship model.

Don't be surprised when 5GHz outperforms 6GHz on a mid-range or entry level 6GHz WiFi 7 routers after a wall if they can even penetrate a wall.
blacktubi
post Jul 24 2024, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(ray_ @ Jul 24 2024, 04:17 PM)
There seems to be a Triband version of BQ16 (called BT10) instead of quadband.

It should presumably be cheaper. No news on price yet, might be worth losing one 5Ghz band if the price is right.
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I tested the BQ16, I manage to get over 2Gbps on the 10G LAN port at the mesh node via wireless backhaul MLO. Crazy stuff.

Don't think that's possible with tri-band.

 

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