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TSbrandonkl
post Jan 19 2024, 05:42 PM, updated 2y ago

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Any advantage in getting a WiFi 7 router in Malaysia? Tri band WiFi 7 has speeds up to 19 GB but our ISPs in Malaysia download speed maximum is 2GB and majority of people probably subscribe to 500 Mbps or 1 Gbps plans.
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QUOTE(brandonkl @ Jan 19 2024, 05:42 PM)
Any advantage in getting a WiFi 7 router in Malaysia? Tri band WiFi 7 has speeds up to 19 GB but our ISPs in Malaysia download speed maximum is 2GB and majority of people probably subscribe to 500 Mbps or 1 Gbps plans.
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post Jan 19 2024, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(brandonkl @ Jan 19 2024, 05:42 PM)
Any advantage in getting a WiFi 7 router in Malaysia? Tri band WiFi 7 has speeds up to 19 GB but our ISPs in Malaysia download speed maximum is 2GB and majority of people probably subscribe to 500 Mbps or 1 Gbps plans.
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wifi5 to wifi6 more benefiting points.

did try comparing wifi6e to wifi7, but most of the new features are hardware based or device client must have support for it.

so yeah ,overkill for the moment.

though maybe wifi7 routers can shoot signal coverage up to the sky ?
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post Jan 19 2024, 06:28 PM

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No benefit unless you have network storage with fast connection and you need access from local WiFi. Also device using also need the the same interface otherwise no point.
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post Jan 19 2024, 08:12 PM

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Normal Consumer wise no benefits, save your money and go for 6

I’m personally am running EAP670 at the moment but will upgrade to EAP770 for one of my node next month for fun and testing
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post Jan 19 2024, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(brandonkl @ Jan 19 2024, 05:42 PM)
Any advantage in getting a WiFi 7 router in Malaysia? Tri band WiFi 7 has speeds up to 19 GB but our ISPs in Malaysia download speed maximum is 2GB and majority of people probably subscribe to 500 Mbps or 1 Gbps plans.
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how fast your usage need ?
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post Jan 19 2024, 08:46 PM

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Using wifi6 also cannot get 500mbps on wifi
How to use wifi7
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post Jan 19 2024, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(brandonkl @ Jan 19 2024, 05:42 PM)
Any advantage in getting a WiFi 7 router in Malaysia? Tri band WiFi 7 has speeds up to 19 GB but our ISPs in Malaysia download speed maximum is 2GB and majority of people probably subscribe to 500 Mbps or 1 Gbps plans.
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seriously blind pursuing the latest technology is a stoopig move.

not only one will be paying a high premium for that (of course if one is rich then different story) but again the real life experience may not change much.
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post Jan 19 2024, 10:39 PM

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Can the wifi 7 penetrate wall better then 2.4ghz?
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Jan 19 2024, 10:39 PM)
Can the wifi 7 penetrate wall better then 2.4ghz?
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No way. In order to support faster speed, higher frequency is used which the penetration is also poorer.
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post Jan 20 2024, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Jan 19 2024, 08:46 PM)
Using wifi6 also cannot get 500mbps on wifi
How to use wifi7
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I can get more than 500 Mbps on WiFi6 on my phone.




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QUOTE(brandonkl @ Jan 19 2024, 05:42 PM)
Any advantage in getting a WiFi 7 router in Malaysia? Tri band WiFi 7 has speeds up to 19 GB but our ISPs in Malaysia download speed maximum is 2GB and majority of people probably subscribe to 500 Mbps or 1 Gbps plans.
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I usually upgrade when I have 3 or more devices. Getting first Wifi 7 device later this year so still 1-3 yrs away.

The speeds will be good for LAN. Internet not so much. My Unifi is only 800Mbps.
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I already have Wi-Fi 7 device and tested at least 5 different Wi-Fi 7 routers. Here's some of my key TLDR findings

Wi-Fi 7 is not just about 6GHz. It enhanced the spectrum efficiency on 5GHz and 2.4GHz device as well.

There are Wi-Fi 7 devices without 6GHz band support in the market (Honor Magic 5 Pro). Similarly, you will see Wi-Fi 7 routers without 6GHz coming soon.

On a Wi-Fi 7 supported device used with a flagship Wi-Fi 7 router on the 5GHz band, you will get around 20-30% faster speed than a flagship Wi-Fi 6/6e router.

However, a flagship Wi-Fi 6/6e router will still outperform a mid-tier Wi-Fi 7 router on 2.4GHz and 5GHz.

Wi-Fi 7 on 6GHz is ridiculously fast at around 3000Mbps if it's within 5m line of sight, doubling performance on WiFi 6e.

Backwards compatibility is great, never had any issue even with my old IoT devices.

The best thing for now is probably the CPU upgrade. TP-Link Archer BE800 comes with 2.2GHz Qualcomm, ASUS is even ridiculous going all the way up to 2.6GHz Broadcom. Warn: All of them are hot.

Edit: All Wi-Fi 7 routers I tested currently are really stable, benefits older devices as well. All of them have the consistency of enterprise grade Wi-Fi access points, even on iPhone 12 Pro.

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jan 20 2024, 08:57 PM)
I already have Wi-Fi 7 device and tested at least 5 different Wi-Fi 7 routers. Here's some of my key TLDR findings

Wi-Fi 7 is not just about 6GHz. It enhanced the spectrum efficiency on 5GHz and 2.4GHz device as well.

There are Wi-Fi 7 devices without 6GHz band support in the market (Honor Magic 5 Pro). Similarly, you will see Wi-Fi 7 routers without 6GHz coming soon.

On a Wi-Fi 7 supported device used with a flagship Wi-Fi 7 router on the 5GHz band, you will get around 20-30% faster speed than a flagship Wi-Fi 6/6e router.

However, a flagship Wi-Fi 6/6e router will still outperform a mid-tier Wi-Fi 7 router on 2.4GHz and 5GHz.

Wi-Fi 7 on 6GHz is ridiculously fast at around 3000Mbps if it's within 5m line of sight, doubling performance on WiFi 6e.

Backwards compatibility is great, never had any issue even with my old IoT devices.

The best thing for now is probably the CPU upgrade. TP-Link Archer BE800 comes with 2.2GHz Qualcomm, ASUS is even ridiculous going all the way up to 2.6GHz Broadcom. Warn: All of them are hot.

Edit: All Wi-Fi 7 routers I tested currently are really stable, benefits older devices as well. All of them have the consistency of enterprise grade Wi-Fi access points, even on iPhone 12 Pro.
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post Jan 21 2024, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jan 20 2024, 08:57 PM)

Wi-Fi 7 on 6GHz is ridiculously fast at around 3000Mbps if it's within 5m line of sight, doubling performance on WiFi 6e.
Apologies for my ignorance. How to get 3000 Mbps when our ISP in Malaysia max is 2 Gbps?
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QUOTE(brandonkl @ Jan 21 2024, 01:21 AM)
Apologies for my ignorance. How to get 3000 Mbps when our ISP in Malaysia max is 2 Gbps?
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For LAN. Internet of course will be limited by your ISP plan.
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QUOTE(brandonkl @ Jan 21 2024, 01:21 AM)
Apologies for my ignorance. How to get 3000 Mbps when our ISP in Malaysia max is 2 Gbps?
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I host my own Speedtest server with a 10G Interface
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post Jan 21 2024, 10:10 AM

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And higher frequency of the wifi means less far it can go. Wifi 6e? If u want fastest apeed need to be within 6 feet. Anything further then ur 800mbps speeds drops to 200mbps aje. Also iu devices need to have wifi 7 antenna or not also no point. Theoretically only benefit of wifi 7, is less channel congestion since all ur neighbours still b40 and using wiifi 6
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QUOTE(sparketh @ Jan 21 2024, 10:10 AM)
And higher frequency of the wifi means less far it can go. Wifi 6e? If u want fastest apeed need to be within 6 feet.  Anything further then ur 800mbps speeds drops to 200mbps aje. Also iu devices need to have wifi 7 antenna or not also no point.  Theoretically only benefit of wifi 7, is less channel congestion since all ur neighbours still b40 and using wiifi 6
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If you’re upgrading from a free WiFi 6 router from ISP to even an entry level WiFi 7 router, even your old WiFi 6 device will experience a 20-30% speed improvement

That’s because of a new router comes with better WiFi components and all of them benefit older devices as well
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QUOTE(sparketh @ Jan 21 2024, 10:10 AM)
And higher frequency of the wifi means less far it can go. Wifi 6e? If u want fastest apeed need to be within 6 feet.  Anything further then ur 800mbps speeds drops to 200mbps aje. Also iu devices need to have wifi 7 antenna or not also no point.  Theoretically only benefit of wifi 7, is less channel congestion since all ur neighbours still b40 and using wiifi 6
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The main target is solving the selection of GHz, unsure will it solved the problem of bad configuration or not.

For example, my TM University having renew of WiFi like 6 years ago, they put too much AP and each other interference like butterfly effect, causing whole WiFi near shut down for most building, even 5GHz got issues(but still online), lucky Android phone can select/limit to 5GHz only at that time. tongue.gif
Final solution is they turn off certain AP in between as monitor mode, solved.
(The problem of too much budget, each small room each AP, with thin wall, lol laugh.gif )

So as u can see, if they really fixed the "Auto" as default issues, it surely bring down the setup and experience of average customer that know near nothing for WiFi.

But yes, that will be after 3 years, WiFi 7 have been supported by default on each smartphone la....

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