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 Malaysian millennials give up on home ownership

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post Jan 19 2024, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jan 19 2024, 11:55 AM)
i dont think so le, nowadays most modern condos are already like at least 700k if mau those 1k sf kind + decent location

studio still workable but you need at least 400-500k even unless rumahwip kind

for an avg joe assuming earn 4-5k its too damn tight ed unless sacri lifestyle
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These prices are in line with overall inflation. Like saying McDonald's menu twenty years ago how much now price how much. How can expect McDonald's menu price increase but house price cannot?
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post Jan 19 2024, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jan 19 2024, 11:49 AM)
if u limit = property will crash , meaning existing will not sell

new property will not launch cause they know price is cheap. no ppl want build
and demand is low. cause now got limit. meaning rich dont buy , poor cant buy also

so how??
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Also if you limit the number of max purchases / increase the downpayment % / reduce tenure

property price will crash, existing owner will suffer,
the bank will suffer with all their collateral value dropping, bank rating will drop causing cost of fund to increase and bank might collapse

you see the vicious cycle here.
can't just touch one thing without affecting another.

Buying a house is a privilege, not a right


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post Jan 19 2024, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jan 19 2024, 11:57 AM)
yes correct, however those are now beginning to become studio units <500sf kind

so its a good makeshift home for 2 but one will def need more space when starting up family. the inescapable cycle
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No leh, i see most rumahwip/ samm are 700-800 sqft, definately not <500.

<500 are mostly private (free market) studio units. These are purpose build studio living and not the affordable series.

As i said in my edited post, priority and expectation must be right, to begin with.

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jan 19 2024, 12:02 PM
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 19 2024, 10:13 AM)
Finally realised the impossible huh?
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That's why now a lot of developers are making cheap condo/apartments

My side here in PJ, suddenly got so many new condos.

Government : Too many houses that are overpriced?? No problem! We'll just approve permit for more affordable condos!

In the end, those landed houses will remain stagnant or drop in value because all the millenials will go for high rise instead
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Unifi agent - YC @ Jan 19 2024, 10:20 AM)
This Dr makes it sound like it is so easy for most millennial to buy overpriced house nowadays

Life is not only about getting a house, paying half or most of your monthly net income for over 35 years, and just die

Unless it is your dream house to settle down and you are really ready to commit, don't buy and just rent.

Don't listen to these boomer "experts" and get pressured into buying a property. They will never see things from millennials' POV because they are already established.
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All sitting on their ivory tower, telling the world to follow their old. Fashion ways just because it worked for them

My company managers and top positions fill with these idiots. They already made the money, now just sitting up there and not giving a fuck
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(McDullDull @ Jan 19 2024, 11:56 AM)
by that time... u dah mampos so cannot feel anything dah...
your kids... gets free money... getting free 2mil or free 1.9mil... still free what... better teach them be thanful and syukur dah la.
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The house is worth 2mil on paper; what if the parents only inherit the house and no cash. How's the kid supposed to pay the 100k cash unless selling off the house

The state should not have the right on inheritance, and we should keep it that way. We work hard for next generation, nothing wrong with that.
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jan 19 2024, 11:55 AM)
i dont think so le, nowadays most modern condos are already like at least 700k if mau those 1k sf kind + decent location

studio still workable but you need at least 400-500k even unless rumahwip kind

for an avg joe assuming earn 4-5k its too damn tight ed unless sacri lifestyle
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I think you are skirting around the issue. Rumahwip and Samm with comfortable 700-800 ft2 are there but you die die say free market studio <500 ft2 too small too expensive, those larger enough for you beyond reach.

Why not rumahwip and Samm?

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jan 19 2024, 12:09 PM
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(HikayatSalju @ Jan 19 2024, 10:05 AM)
He said while it is not wrong for the younger generation to own a car or apply for personal loan, they should give priority to home ownership as it is an asset compared to a vehicle which is a liability as it depreciates in value each year.

“A house is an asset with its value appreciating every year. While it is not wrong to rent, but on hindsight, through monthly rentals, it seems that we are ‘helping’ the owner to settle his housing loan repayment,” he argued.
The mindset of thinking house as an asset is the exact reason of house price skyrocketing every year, making youth getting more and more impossible to afford one
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:12 PM

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So conclusion is...
Lucky Malaysian millennials yg ada dedikasi... syukur je and thanks boomer daddi.
Poor Malaysian millennials just give up on home ownership la...
dun blame boomer gen for causing property price increase... boomer also just thinking wanna pass to their millenial kids je.
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:14 PM

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simple solution, limit house ownership in city/state per person to max 2 house within certain distance house cannot own by same person more than 1 house
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jan 19 2024, 12:00 PM)
No leh, i see most rumahwip/ samm are 700-800 sqft, definately not <500.

<500 are mostly private (free market) studio units. These are purpose build studio living and not the affordable series.

As i said in my edited post, priority and expectation must be right, to begin with.
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yes then obviously just go for those but location will come into play next

if one doesnt have a car/motor already location is extremely important

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post Jan 19 2024, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(lopo90 @ Jan 19 2024, 12:00 PM)
That's why now a lot of developers are making cheap condo/apartments

My side here in PJ, suddenly got so many new condos.

Government : Too many houses that are overpriced?? No problem! We'll just approve permit for more affordable condos!

In the end, those landed houses will remain stagnant or drop in value because all the millenials will go for high rise instead
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Your last para. In contrary, this will in turn make existing landed houses a gem.
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(McDullDull @ Jan 19 2024, 12:12 PM)
So conclusion is...
Lucky Malaysian millennials yg ada dedikasi... syukur je and thanks boomer daddi.
Poor Malaysian millennials just give up on home ownership la...
dun blame boomer gen for causing property price increase... boomer also just thinking wanna pass to their millenial kids je.
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like it or not, "being born rich also a talent" biggrin.gif

if poorfag then need to either work harder and just give up on home ownership like you said
there's nothing wrong with renting really, you saved shit tonne of money

also property is not for investment one, want to make an investment then go buy stock or put in asb/epf

This post has been edited by Unifi agent - YC: Jan 19 2024, 12:18 PM
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:18 PM

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last time early 2000s can buy house

nowadays can only afford condo, so sad.

I hate living in condo, having someone above me and below me.
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Jan 19 2024, 10:07 AM)
You limit how many properties a person can have, will automatically fix the problem.

Baby boomers owning too much properties.
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won't work, because even the bricks, cement, gravel, sand, steel prices aren't cheap nowadays. not to mention price on the land itself too

even less than 10 years ago, renovated and build new sections about a quarter of the house and changing the roofs (not that much), costs over rm60k

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jan 19 2024, 12:20 PM
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(HikayatSalju @ Jan 19 2024, 11:58 AM)
These prices are in line with overall inflation. Like saying McDonald's menu twenty years ago how much now price how much. How can expect McDonald's menu price increase but house price cannot?
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Yeap house prices are actually in line with inflation, but the income of most millennials aren't. So boomer hogging up properties causing millennials to give up and spend their money on YOLO stuff = more inflation = even harder for millennial to own property without FOMO support.


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post Jan 19 2024, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jan 19 2024, 11:43 AM)
i think youre missing the point

its more on how even they with decades of work also can barely afford a house

house price goes up faster than salary can be
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its not really, you have options, even at the lower end, there are affordable ones and even the secondary market has good value buys

its just mostly i find

1. people want to live at a brand new landed next to KLCC (exaggerating of course) at 200k
2. refuse to sacrifice subscriptions or lifestyle choices to save up to even be able to have options in the secondary market
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jan 19 2024, 11:29 AM)
but the inheriance MONEY already kena tax from income tax what

said ur salary AFTER income tax is 800.
so if u pass the 800 to your son..

the rm800 kena tax pulokkkk

got it?
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You might as well say the company which paid your salary has also paid taxes.

Take the viewpoint of the recipient and youd see that its basically taxed at each level of recipient.

This post has been edited by empyreal: Jan 19 2024, 12:30 PM
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:29 PM

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Everytime talk about property sure blame boomers.
Boomers are living their last days already. Millenials inheriting those properties so blame your own generation for not releasing them for the charity of people.
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jan 19 2024, 12:27 PM)
You might as well say the company which paid your salary has also paid the corp tax before paying your salary.

Take the viewpoint of the recipient and youd see that its basically taxed once at each level of recipient.
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corp tax is company ma

not my hard earn salary ma
we macai only care TAKE HOME PAY / SALARY aje

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