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post Nov 6 2007, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Nov 6 2007, 03:36 PM)
err...wats lcp? blush.gif
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lightened crank pulley
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post Nov 6 2007, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(yohomies @ Nov 6 2007, 03:39 PM)
lets year end convoy to melaka  tongue.gif
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jom jom... icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Nov 6 2007, 03:45 PM)
the iswara gear shift uses cables for the shifter
there is no mechanical links
check out the pics here
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/371196
all they need to do is disconnect the cables n take out the old shifter mechanism and replace it with the new one n reconnect the cables
kautim
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sifoo... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 6 2007, 03:48 PM)
christmas holiday will be good...tt in malacca.....meet up with those monster in melaka including sifoo sky..
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who sifoo sky??... i also wanna meet him leh... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 6 2007, 04:11 PM)
1 day trip arr??? wink.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Nov 6 2007, 04:13 PM)
Haha...no ooo. whistling.gif
Go find my parent for few days 1st onli back lor  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

-pWs-
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QUOTE(yohomies @ Nov 6 2007, 04:14 PM)
all tidor lantai.. at catacomb's house (budget trip ma~)  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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stay at pws house lah... his parents sure gonna welcome us all... my house vr dirty... sweat.gif
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post Nov 6 2007, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Nov 6 2007, 04:35 PM)
yes after 4000 no more acceleration already or constant acceleration.. until 6k the max speed.
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change weber lah... continue to accelerate till 7k rpm... icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
want mine??... i planning to sell jor since fuel price naik macam bursa saham doh.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Nov 6 2007, 05:34 PM)
haha visit sifoo sky aka cat..
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siapa tu??... whistling.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Nov 6 2007, 06:47 PM)
dun change exhaust lo... just now i heard from radio our PM say no more subside for fuel after 2010..
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change exhaust wont necessary increase fuel consumption la... u want improve fuel consumption, change highflow air filter..... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Nov 6 2007, 06:55 PM)
if they implement the 70cent increase with subside.. and if the world fuel price still hiking i think most probably 1 litre may ll cost around RM4 by 2010. God where is those genius? Y we r still relaying on 100% petrol/diesel car.. doh.gif
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must merempit adi... den everyone become mat cemerlang.... malaysia will be famous... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

QUOTE(andychan @ Nov 6 2007, 07:51 PM)
want to be silent diam diam read what you all say .
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post Nov 6 2007, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 6 2007, 10:16 PM)
I found this at zerotohundred but i dunno some of it.  =.=
1. Hi-performance camshaft (RM1140 exchange)
2. Tuned length extractor (RM410)
3. Ported head (RM1500 exchange)
4. Hi-flow center piping (RM250)
5. Hi-torque rear muffler. (RM275)
help.....
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ON lah... u so rich... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

what camshaft??... duration??... matspeed, pz, rpw, piper??....
tuned length from pz??... or hotbits??...
who ported it??...
piping what diameter??... mandrel bent??..
muffler also got high torque one meh??...

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post Nov 6 2007, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 6 2007, 10:28 PM)
just wan to know onli bro. no $$ to do all that. he claim up 20% hp onli. >.<
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pity him... use that money buy twin DCOE even better....
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post Nov 6 2007, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 6 2007, 10:38 PM)
DCOE? another new word 2day. biggrin.gif
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exist long time ago lo.... doh.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Nov 6 2007, 10:48 PM)
wah sifoo oso interested?
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say TAK NAK to car modding...

QUOTE(andychan @ Nov 6 2007, 11:19 PM)
i want semi buket seat ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i want it so comfort
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car corner too fast, sked driver fly out... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Nov 6 2007, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Nov 6 2007, 11:39 PM)
ya better mod with roll cage after semi bucket... to over come the G force
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yea... rollcage, full bucket seat and 4-5 point harness can save ur life...
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post Nov 7 2007, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Nov 6 2007, 11:57 PM)
sifoo say TAK NAK to car moddin?
sure onot? haha
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stock standard alwiz the best... no headaches... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Nov 7 2007, 12:14 AM)
as for pickup,...usually nowdays they put soft turbo
may not be as good as a petrol soft turbo...but then with the amount of money i'll be saving on fuel,...i'm wiling to sacrifice that little omph innocent.gif
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may i know what is soft turbo??.. sorry i noob... blink.gif

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 7 2007, 12:17 AM)
the time when sifoo stop modding is the time when the earth turn into dust...
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earth is made of dust... icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Nov 7 2007, 12:23 AM)
there's ppl reali can make tat mistake.. i came across 1 fren of mine tat reali can pump diesel into petrol car..  doh.gif  doh.gif
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post Nov 7 2007, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Nov 7 2007, 12:30 AM)
good good convoy to melaka this time next time convoy to bandar gangster
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post Nov 7 2007, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 7 2007, 08:39 AM)

Added on November 7, 2007, 9:09 amharlo.....
where all da ppl? planning to Malacca?
When?
Nid TT to discuss?
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jom jom... come melaka TT and discuss with me loh... icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 7 2007, 09:48 AM)
ya. coz is diesel is direct in mixture n burst not like petrol engine. can use but i dunno how is the power la.
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diesel engine doesnt have sparkplugs... when diesel+O2 mixture is compressed, the detonate easily... means under compression, diesel can detonate more easily compare to petrol.... while petrol, the higher its octane rating, the harder for it to detonate under compression... thats why petrol engines need a sparkplug to ignite the air/fuel mixture....

QUOTE(wong815 @ Nov 7 2007, 10:44 AM)
Function        :    Proton Iswara / Saga (KL - Melaka) Convoy No. I
Date              :    8th November 2007
Meeting Point  :    R & R Sg. Besi Toll
Time              :    early morning
Estimated Cost:    RM85 (toll and fuel only) via PLUS / RM60++ if use federal highway (tolless)    [toll from sg besi - ayer keroh = rm16.50]  -  [fuel cost depend on individual car's fuel consumption]

Interested & Confirmed List
1. Wong815
2.  catacombs  icon_idea.gif
3.
4.
5.
6.

Pending confirmation
1.Flyingtenku
2.Andy
3.Who555

Note: Cepat lar, organize lar, so that we can all go melaka and get catakom to show us around.....
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post Nov 7 2007, 09:25 PM

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passing by ya....
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post Nov 7 2007, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Nov 7 2007, 10:35 PM)
diesel engines dont use a spark plug but merely the heat of the air in the cylinder
it is injected once the air in the chamber has been compressed and heated up
in actual fact, diesel engines are kindof more complex than petrol
they were the first injection engines
also components are heavier and tougher as the pressure forces that it is subjected to is far greater than that of the petrol engine

diesel fuel is definitely a dirtier fuel as compared to petrol (chemically speaking) as it contains sulfur and other impurities
but fact of the matter is, if you are using a new green engine which is well maintained, the diesel engine emissions will be significantly less as compared to petrol engines

the refinery requirements imposed by the gov for diesel is also getting more stringent so the fuel itself is becoming finer and more environmentally friendly
that, coupled with the fact that the diesel engine itself is a cleaner fossil fuel heat engine, results in a significantly cleaner overall power plant  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Nov 7 2007, 10:49 PM)
actually,...diesel engines use glowplugs to start the engine going when it is cold
the diesel is not mixed with the oxygen and then compressed
the air is drawn into the cylinder and compressed
and then when the piston is at TDC (top dead center) the diesel fuel is injected into the cylinder
the temperature of the air is now very hot due to the compression (PV/T)
...this obeys the standard gas laws
the compressed air's temperature is higher than the diesel's flash point and thus ignites the fuel instantaneously upon injection
diesel has a higher flash point than petrol
which means petrol combusts more easily than diesel
i think the mistake u made here is that u failed to take into account the difference in the compression ratios of the two engines
diesel engines operate at a higher compression ratio
this is one of the reasons why it is more efficient as compared to a petrol engine
the higher the pressure and temperature the system works at (the further away it is from the heat sink and ambient values) the more efficient will a heat engine's operation be
petrol engines have spark plugs to ignite the fuel because the air fuel mixture is not compressed to a pressure which will cause the temperature to increase pass the flash point of the petrol
where as in diesel engines the air is compressed to a pressure which causes the air to pass the flashpoint of diesel so that when the diesel fuel is injected into the cylinder, the fuel spontaneously combusts
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post Nov 8 2007, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(hamiru @ Nov 7 2007, 11:57 PM)
eh
ini TT jadi tak?
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tt apa datuk kame??...


Added on November 8, 2007, 1:07 am
QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Nov 8 2007, 12:53 AM)
where is sham bodykit?
expensive? pricing like rocklee bodykit anot?

the rear visor,i can find small 1...RM30 or RM35.not above RM40
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price ok lah... but the fibre finishing looks good... almost looks like ori stuff... syam alwiz hangout at SIC forum... da url: http://z4.invisionfree.com/Saga_Iswara_Clu...dex.php?act=idx

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post Nov 8 2007, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Nov 8 2007, 01:13 AM)
kenot login leeeeeeeee

user posted image
this side skirt nice
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vr4 sideskirt with tanduk... but without the side panels....
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post Nov 8 2007, 03:50 AM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Nov 8 2007, 02:01 AM)
Dunno ar... Have to ask my mechanic first. Aiks sad.gif
But interested in exterior more tongue.gif laugh.gif

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haha... car must look fast also...

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Nov 8 2007, 02:05 AM)
tak faham ler..... tongue.gif
same with me...now start mod interior
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refer to pic below..

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this is vr4 sideskirt... see whats the difference between the 2... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 8 2007, 04:56 AM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Nov 8 2007, 03:56 AM)
Night smile.gif
How to make the car look fast??  hmm.gif

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add some blur effect... den can feel as if its vr fast.... tongue.gif
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post Nov 8 2007, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(cheeann @ Nov 8 2007, 10:24 AM)
ya lor. . . .
wat 2 do? ?
sum more jus sit there only. . . .
but salary not bad la~
1st thing i'll do after getting my salary is do up my air-cond on my monster ride~  brows.gif
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post Nov 8 2007, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 8 2007, 01:19 PM)
bro, ur high-cam 270 degree did it give u jerk at constantly low RPM? what about cold start, left for few days?
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rpm at 500 jerk lah... but switch off aircond rpm at 1k... no jerk... vr smooth.... if rpm at 700, can feel the timing go up and down lo...

mine cold start memang hard one lah... my weber dont have choke.... have to depress the accelerator for awhile until the temp needle start to move only can remove my leg.... if not sure mati engine.... rclxub.gif

QUOTE(Chester @ Nov 8 2007, 01:56 PM)
hi guys..roughly how much ah to pump air cond gas for an iswara?
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50 bucks...

QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Nov 8 2007, 02:44 PM)
you can tune the fuel for lean setting for more better fc but 1.3 carb is already underpowered so better opt for richer mixture thus more power, also due to higher pressure when you accelerate hard from cruising more, you'll feel the power and throttle response comes more sooner compare to normal fpr because the fuel is supplied into combustion chamber faster mar. thumbup.gif
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but richer mixture doesnt mean better.... must find the optimum point where ur revs are silky smooth... FPR basically is to stop the return fuel line, so fuel can be pump into ur carb directly.... since there is not fuel return line, the pressure is higher, thus FPR can help to tune the fuel pressure to optimum level....
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post Nov 8 2007, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 8 2007, 05:15 PM)
Guy.. What spark plug good for 4g13p? My platinium spark plug give up already.. I need recommended so I can buy a better spark plug.
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denso iridium... thumbup.gif
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post Nov 8 2007, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 8 2007, 07:32 PM)
how signifiant performance increase if compare OEM with platinum and platinum with iridium?
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a little only

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 8 2007, 08:42 PM)
the halfcut is 1.5 EFI mirage engine. 4 speed auto. RM3.8k the shop ppl say can use back our manual gearbox.
saga engine blok is RM1.6k dun mix up Gilbert. ^^
later i post up the halfcut pic.
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1.5 mirage??... 4g91 arr??.....

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