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post Jan 16 2024, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jan 16 2024, 08:07 AM)
as a preve owner , can you share a bit about the ownership?

I want to consider a proton but really think twice about when ppl say parts issue/ etc.  as much as how attractive the car is, at the end of the day i just wanted a reliable car for day to day commute.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 16 2024, 11:03 AM)

All these small details affect the overall quality and refinement of the Preve. I presume the S70 is a completely different car with much improved fit and finish inside the cabin. But reliability-wise, judging from the experience of X70 users like Gargamel I suppose time will tell if it will receive the same fate.

ps. the CVT gearbox of my Preve Turbo was found to be damaged when it was less than 3 years old. Luckily still under warranty replaced at the service centre free of charge. The vehicle was at the service centre for about a week when they replaced the gearbox and I need to go find a temporary car to drive to work which was a hassle.
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Rubber seals dried up in X70. X70 owner group also complaining about gearbox issues in CBU but touch wood mine is fine till now.
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post Jan 17 2024, 08:01 AM

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Yeah, all gearbox also got issues is just how the owner & manufacturer take care of it. Just as i want to feedback that DSG also got a lot of complaints from around forums & proton groups also.
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post Jan 17 2024, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Jan 15 2024, 11:54 AM)
Yes, But compared to S70, almera does not have active cruise control, or any passive cruise control at all
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Active cruise control maybe useful. But passive cruise control near useless in msia.

Speed limit 110kmh. Every car driving at every speed but 110kmh.
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After spotting a nice looking Almera Kuro version earlier last week which had piqued my interested a little, I investigated further on the vehicle. Everything looks good until I noticed a rather huge minus point. The vehicle does not come with powered seats, not even for the driver. All manual adjustments for the front seats. shocking.gif
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post Jan 17 2024, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 17 2024, 04:28 PM)
After spotting a nice looking Almera Kuro version earlier last week which had piqued my interested a little, I investigated further on the vehicle. Everything looks good until I noticed a rather huge minus point. The vehicle does not come with powered seats, not even for the driver. All manual adjustments for the front seats.  shocking.gif
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Not sure why need powered seats, all my rides only adjust 1 time and never touch again. Unless you share your ride to different person a lot, if not the powered seats seems not practical. Even sliding up and down also slower compare to manual operated, until today i still prefer manual over powered seats.

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post Jan 17 2024, 04:17 PM

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Pls la.... Nissan already die with Jakco CVT.. .focus on S70 C segment better...
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post Jan 17 2024, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Jan 17 2024, 02:14 PM)
Active cruise control maybe useful. But passive cruise control near useless in msia.

Speed limit 110kmh. Every car driving at every speed but 110kmh.
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Hence active cruise control
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post Jan 17 2024, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 17 2024, 04:13 PM)
Not sure why need powered seats, all my rides only adjust 1 time and never touch again. Unless you share your ride to different person a lot, if not the powered seats seems not practical. Even sliding up and down also slower compare to manual operated, until today i still prefer manual over powered seats.
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Everyone is different. Even though the car may be used by one person only, I find powered seats to be useful. Perhaps I'm spoiled by the Ford Focus where both front seats come with powered seats. I occasionally adjust the position of the seats, front and back, and the backrest inclined at various angles or upright. Sometimes when I'm at the traffic lights, I will put the seat inclined to rest if I have a bad headache, and when the cars start moving I'll get the seat straight up by the push of the button. Very easy and convenient. Of course manual adjustments will work too but it's just more work to adjust to the optimal position. With powered seats, the adjustments are minute so you can get to the desired position accurately and easily. With manual adjustments the positions of the seat are preset in say 4 or 5 places so you get less play.

If the car is used by 2 persons or more, occasionally if not regularly, the powered seats will be more useful. If it's older folks, it will be even more useful. In my case the vehicle will be mostly used by 2 persons.

There are people who pay a lot of emphasis on 360 degrees parking camera, auto cruise, paddle shifters and some advanced safely features but they are all not important to me. In the end it depends on the criteria of the individual on what he/she regards as important. Everyone is different and people have the choice to go with whatever that is appealing to them. If your ask me, I wouldn't pick the Proton S70 even though it is packed with many features and have a more powerful to engine to hit higher top speed or whatever. And I would go with Toyota over Honda anytime. It's good to have options.

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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ Jan 17 2024, 04:17 PM)
Pls la.... Nissan already die with Jakco CVT.. .focus on S70 C segment better...
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YouTube Nissan CVT will make horrors video. That's why lack of Nissan car odr. X-Rail was regular odr last time but the cvt make all running away. Nissan still selling this old car
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 17 2024, 07:33 PM)
Everyone is different. Even though the car may be used by one person only, I find powered seats to be useful. Perhaps I'm spoiled by the Ford Focus where both front seats come with powered seats. I occasionally adjust the position of the seats, front and back, and the backrest inclined at various angles or upright.  Sometimes when I'm at the traffic lights, I will put the seat inclined to rest if I have a bad headache, and when the cars start moving I'll get the seat straight up by the push of the button. Very easy and convenient. Of course manual adjustments will work too but it's just more work to adjust to the optimal position. With powered seats, the adjustments are minute so you can get to the desired position accurately and easily. With manual adjustments the positions of the seat are preset in say 4 or 5 places so you get less play.

If the car is used by 2 persons or more, occasionally if not regularly, the powered seats will be more useful. If it's older folks, it will be even more useful. In my case the vehicle will be  mostly used by 2 persons.

There are people who pay a lot of emphasis on 360 degrees parking camera, auto cruise, paddle shifters and some advanced safely features but they are all not important to me. In the end it depends on the criteria of the individual on what he/she regards as important. Everyone is different and people have the choice to go with whatever that is appealing to them. If your ask me, I wouldn't pick the Proton S70 even though it is packed with many features and have a more powerful to engine to hit higher top speed or whatever. And I would go with Toyota over Honda anytime. It's good to have options.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 17 2024, 04:13 PM)
Not sure why need powered seats, all my rides only adjust 1 time and never touch again. Unless you share your ride to different person a lot, if not the powered seats seems not practical. Even sliding up and down also slower compare to manual operated, until today i still prefer manual over powered seats.
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to me powered seats is only really useful if it comes with easy access function as well (seats will move backwards and steering will move away after you turn off the car for easy exit and entry)

other than that I dont see a difference with manual seat except powered seat can have memory function as well which is good for those who shares their car a lot

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QUOTE(tctham @ Jan 17 2024, 02:14 PM)
Active cruise control maybe useful. But passive cruise control near useless in msia.

Speed limit 110kmh. Every car driving at every speed but 110kmh.
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ya man... only ACC useful, regular cruise control maybe can only use on long empty stretch like LPT.

long time back, i wanted a car with cruise control for my regular weekly long distance commute, when finally got a car with regular cruise control
the traffic increased so much that it's useless already.
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post Jan 18 2024, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ Jan 17 2024, 05:17 PM)
Pls la.... Nissan already die with Jakco CVT.. .focus on S70 C segment better...
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The Jatco CVT gearbox issues already improved over the years and local Nissan already include CVT oil change earlier within 60~80k range compare to last time only do after 80~100k. All these help reduce the warranty claims and gearbox issue, if you drive it like a racer & high-rev a lot than the Almera is not suitable, better get Mazda 2 with 6AT gearbox. Proton DCT gearbox until today also got issues, X50/X70 owners complaining of vibration or gear switching not smooth for certain gears also. If you ask me, the most stable gearbox is still the normal AT gearbox.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jan 18 2024, 12:16 AM)
to me powered seats is only really useful if it comes with easy access function as well (seats will move backwards and steering will move away after you turn off the car for easy exit and entry)

other than that I dont see a difference with manual seat except powered seat can have memory function as well which is good for those who shares their car a lot
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Ya bro, those lower range car usually where got easy access function. Only those higher more expensive range cars, SUV only got.
The rest mostly are memory function only which is good for those which switch different drivers a lot, thus why after owning and driven few cars i felt a lot of these accessories really waste of money if you drive alone.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 18 2024, 09:58 AM)
The Jatco CVT gearbox issues already improved over the years and local Nissan already include CVT oil change earlier within 60~80k range compare to last time only do after 80~100k. All these help reduce the warranty claims and gearbox issue, if you drive it like a racer & high-rev a lot than the Almera is not suitable, better get Mazda 2 with 6AT gearbox. Proton DCT gearbox until today also got issues, X50/X70 owners complaining of vibration or gear switching not smooth for certain gears also. If you ask me, the most stable gearbox is still the normal AT gearbox.
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only those X70 CBU had a big issues with GB, claiming Torque Converter 3 times. the CKD X70 DCT as well as X50, not much issue if check on both FB group. Nissan CVT, just search YouTube for abroad problems faced by it.
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For anyone who is interested, there is currently promotion for Nissan Almera Kuro black edition. Some photos forwarded to me by the sales guy. These are the new glacier grey finish for the Kuro which is different from the old Dark metal finish:-

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The old dark metal finish:-

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post Jan 18 2024, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 18 2024, 11:12 AM)
For anyone who is interested, there is currently promotion for Nissan Almera Kuro black edition. Some photos forwarded to me by the sales guy. These are the new glacier grey finish for the Kuro which is different from the old Dark metal finish:-

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The old dark metal finish:-

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indeed the glacier gray looks very nice
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QUOTE(iOrange @ Jan 15 2024, 11:07 AM)
Almera exterior is better than vios and city imo but the interior is the dealbreaker. ugly and it feels so dated. Also the selling price is not attractive enough
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Almera's acceleration power is better than Toyota Vios though.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 18 2024, 11:12 AM)
For anyone who is interested, there is currently promotion for Nissan Almera Kuro black edition. Some photos forwarded to me by the sales guy. These are the new glacier grey finish for the Kuro which is different from the old Dark metal finish:-

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The old dark metal finish:-

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Looks pretty much identical to Nardo Grey. The thing about Nardo grey is that you might feel the colour code to be dated sooner than later.
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jan 18 2024, 11:16 AM)
indeed the glacier gray looks very nice
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Yes, same thoughts and that was the reason it got me interested as apart from the new glacier grey finish, the Kuro black front grille add-on made it look much better as the original silver front grille didn't look good to me. I didn't look at the Almera all this while as it does not look good but this new Kuro version with glacier grey finish now looks appealing to me.

Further investigation revealed that there is a new Almera 2024 version already launched in Thailand and Philippines lately, or maybe a year ago. It's basically a facelift with a new front grille and minor changes in the interior (blue-coloured leather at the dashboard replacing the beige coloured one, all black leather seats) and some additional features such as tyre pressure monitoring system. Not sure when it will be launched here, if it ever gets to Malaysia.


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