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post Dec 15 2023, 08:07 PM, updated 2y ago

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10% sales tax on online goods to apply from Jan 1
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PETALING JAYA: A 10% sales tax will be imposed from Jan 1 on online sales of goods costing below RM500, according to a recent customs guide.

The low-value goods tax will apply on goods bought online and delivered to Malaysia by vendors registered with the finance ministry.

The tax was introduced in an amendment to the Sales Tax Act passed by the Dewan Rakyat in August last year and was to have been imposed from April 1 this year but was postponed.

The Dewan Rakyat was told last year that the government expects to collect RM200 million a year from the tax.

The deputy finance minister then, Shahar Abdullah, said the tax would level the playing field between online sellers both inside and outside Malaysia, and would empower local markets and businessmen.
The tax was first mooted by former finance minister Tengku Zafrul Aziz when tabling the 2022 budget.
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post Dec 15 2023, 08:08 PM

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So mudah n carousel counted?
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CCB i now buy everything online. Groceries also. So everything will be 10% higher compared to purchase at physical store?
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post Dec 15 2023, 08:12 PM

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Niama jus keep on taxing the rakyat...
Gov so many minister all makan taik punya
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low value goods - tax! high value goods also tax. luxury goods tax also. might as well just say tax everything
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Dec 15 2023, 08:10 PM)
CCB i now buy everything online. Groceries also. So everything will be 10% higher compared to purchase at physical store?
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Nope. This tax only applies to international items that  are  shipped to Malaysia.

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It was supposed to be collected if sellers are from oversea only. Now local online sellers also kena?
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post Dec 15 2023, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:12 PM)
low value goods - tax! high value goods also tax. luxury goods tax also. might as well just say tax everything
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It’s called GST
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Tu la gst 6% don’t wan la now charge u 10% sales tax on everything … but y ok rm500 below and not rm500 above stuff wanna protect helang ?
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QUOTE(msacras @ Dec 15 2023, 08:14 PM)
It’s called GST
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GST only 6%...this one 10% ....please bring back GST sad.gif
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said the tax would level the playing field between online sellers both inside and outside Malaysi


Seems to mean locally available goods would not be taxed, but shipped from overseas ones will.
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In November, the Small and Medium Enterprises Association of Malaysia (Samenta) urged Putrajaya to implement the tax to mitigate the “uneven competition” between brick-and-mortar stores and online marketplaces.

Samenta president William Ng said local retailers have to pay taxes, rent and overheads, while online sellers often avoid their tax responsibility and tend to pay lower rent and overheads, if any.
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QUOTE(vhs @ Dec 15 2023, 08:13 PM)
It was supposed to be collected if sellers are from oversea only. Now local online sellers also kena?
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I think like GST last time, taobao helps to collect and charge a sum during checkout.
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:08 PM)
So mudah n carousel counted?
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QUOTE(Epci @ Dec 15 2023, 08:13 PM)
Nope. This tax only applies to international items that  are   shipped to Malaysia.
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tell me how many % of the local seller here not selling stuff that was imported from china, probably less than 2%
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QUOTE(GiganticBird @ Dec 15 2023, 08:18 PM)
tell me how many % of the local seller here not selling stuff that was imported from china, probably less than 2%
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Local sellers supposedly import in big scales and already subjected to import duty before this.

This new tax is to kill those dropshippers or small scale businesses.
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QUOTE(GiganticBird @ Dec 15 2023, 08:18 PM)
tell me how many % of the local seller here not selling stuff that was imported from china, probably less than 2%
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this is for china sellers on local platform

example u see china sellers sell rm10 on shopee, so after tax will be rm11. government wan to help local sellers actually. now many china sellers on shopee lazada didnt pay any tax
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QUOTE(Epci @ Dec 15 2023, 08:13 PM)
Nope. This tax only applies to international items that  are   shipped to Malaysia.
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So CBU car like tesla purchased online and ship from oversea will get addtional 10% tax?
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Dec 15 2023, 08:22 PM)
So CBU car like tesla purchased online and ship from oversea will get addtional 10% tax?
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only for goods below rm500.......
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Really CCB, they wanna digitalised so much of things. Now they wanna up tax somemore. KNN wanna makan duit only.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:23 PM)
only for goods below rm500.......
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oh missed the word below.
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Dec 15 2023, 08:10 PM)
CCB i now buy everything online. Groceries also. So everything will be 10% higher compared to purchase at physical store?
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Show the whole how stupiak u are lol
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Dec 15 2023, 08:25 PM)
oh missed the word below.
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Below 500 tax 10% , above tax even more
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Dec 15 2023, 08:22 PM)
So CBU car like tesla purchased online and ship from oversea will get addtional 10% tax?
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Tesla costs below RM500?
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Low value goods tax. Luxury goods tax. So when want to do middle value goods tax? Topkek government.
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pandai dia potong subsidi, buat tax baru cakap kerajaan x cukup duit

tapi bila derma palestine 1 juta, buat roadshow 3 hari raikan dia berkuasa 1 tahun ok je ada duit
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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:14 PM)
Tu la gst 6% don’t wan la now charge u 10% sales tax on everything … but y ok rm500 below and not rm500 above stuff wanna protect helang ?
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there is already existing kastam tax for goods >rm500
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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Dec 15 2023, 08:53 PM)
there is already existing kastam tax for goods >rm500
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That's also 10% right?
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QUOTE(pfizer @ Dec 15 2023, 08:32 PM)
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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:15 PM)
GST only 6%...this one 10% ....please bring back GST  sad.gif
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I don't know how this will be implemented, but people have short memory. You don't just pay 6% on GST. GST is not implemented on end user sale only.
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ever since pmx, all i hear is tax tax tax
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f la y we need to work hard to feed them
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Japan has tax hike glasses

Malaysia has tax hike AI ?
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Dec 15 2023, 08:59 PM)
That's also 10% right?
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I think 20% cause my recent purchase as below.
Total cost is rm500+
I have to pay extra rm100+ to the DHL guy
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Big wrong move from PH for always wanting new and higher taxes. With removal of subsidy, just wait for hyper inflation
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why stop at 10%, can go 20%
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economically it's a good idea.

Less dark economy.

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QUOTE(ykj @ Dec 15 2023, 09:14 PM)
Big wrong move from PH for always wanting new and higher taxes. With removal of subsidy, just wait for hyper inflation
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you can choose

1. Taxation of 10%, ringgit remains stable as government no longer print money but choose the painful path to increase taxation but maintain value of ringgit.

2. No taxation, but ringgit depreciates another 10% due to more deficit and printing of money.


You buy from China, RM300, gomen tax 10%, you pay RM330.

You buy from China, gomen no tax, but ringgit falls 10%, you need RM330 to buy the same amount of good.

Which one you choose?

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Extra burden on b40 who are looking to stretch their already tight pockets. Now you want to protect local businesses who wants to maximise their profits instead of helping to cushion b40 problems.


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Its far simpler to have one gst rather than multiple small taxes that probably end up making items cost more.
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 15 2023, 09:20 PM)
you can choose

1. Taxation of 10%, ringgit remains stable as government no longer print money but choose the painful path to increase taxation but maintain value of ringgit.

2. No taxation, but ringgit depreciates another 10% due to more deficit and printing of money.
You buy from China, RM300, gomen tax 10%, you pay RM330.

You buy from China, gomen no tax, but ringgit falls 10%, you need RM330 to buy the same amount of good.

Which one  you choose?
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How can you guarantee both scenario 1 & 2? Just making assumptions and it will magically happen?
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QUOTE(galkelly @ Dec 15 2023, 08:12 PM)
Niama jus keep on taxing the rakyat...
Gov so many minister all makan taik punya
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In before fahmi ask lowyat to delete your comment. Haha
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 15 2023, 09:20 PM)
you can choose

1. Taxation of 10%, ringgit remains stable as government no longer print money but choose the painful path to increase taxation but maintain value of ringgit.

2. No taxation, but ringgit depreciates another 10% due to more deficit and printing of money.
You buy from China, RM300, gomen tax 10%, you pay RM330.

You buy from China, gomen no tax, but ringgit falls 10%, you need RM330 to buy the same amount of good.

Which one  you choose?
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As if the RM 200 million makes any difference to increase our currency strength, don't get brainwashed my friend.
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 15 2023, 09:20 PM)
you can choose

1. Taxation of 10%, ringgit remains stable as government no longer print money but choose the painful path to increase taxation but maintain value of ringgit.

2. No taxation, but ringgit depreciates another 10% due to more deficit and printing of money.
You buy from China, RM300, gomen tax 10%, you pay RM330.

You buy from China, gomen no tax, but ringgit falls 10%, you need RM330 to buy the same amount of good.

Which one  you choose?
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can choose to not have 1mdb, stealth LCS, 1billion moral pulis, overbloated civil service, expired vaksins, faulty ventilators, corruption and leakages?

want to increase tax or reduce subsidy? in tandem, reduce the size of the civil service and remove all ministers pension.
rakyat suffer, civil service must also sacrifice together. not just makan kuih during meetings and go training and lawatan luar negara.

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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:14 PM)
Tu la gst 6% don’t wan la now charge u 10% sales tax on everything … but y ok rm500 below and not rm500 above stuff wanna protect helang ?
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Buy item for $499, the tax is $49.90. 😵‍💫

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Dec 15 2023, 09:36 PM)
can choose to not have 1mdb, stealth LCS, 1billion moral pulis, overbloated civil service, expired vaksins, faulty ventilators, corruption and leakages?

want to increase tax or reduce subsidy? in tandem, reduce the size of the civil service.
rakyat suffer, civil service must also sacrifice together. not just makan kuih during meetings and go training and lawatan luar negara.
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Well said.

As many people already mentioned, PMX is not righting the wrongs but continue the wrongs ways to stay in power.

Really a big letdown.
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QUOTE(ceras @ Dec 15 2023, 09:29 PM)
Extra burden on b40 who are looking to stretch their already tight pockets. Now you want to protect local businesses who wants to maximise their profits instead of helping to cushion b40 problems.
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Since when buy online is cheap.

Buy groceries item are more expensive than at brick & mortar stores.


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QUOTE(galkelly @ Dec 15 2023, 08:12 PM)
Niama jus keep on taxing the rakyat...
Gov so many minister all makan taik punya
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Dec 15 2023, 09:51 PM)
pandai dia potong subsidi, buat tax baru cakap kerajaan x cukup duit

tapi bila derma palestine 1 juta, buat roadshow 3 hari raikan dia berkuasa 1 tahun ok je ada duit
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really KNNBCCB la...can donate so much millions like rakyat are not suffering? zzz...

fake reform je, what those comments as shared on other social medias are TRUE!! as this kerajaan MPs full with pengkhianat only!
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QUOTE(ykj @ Dec 15 2023, 09:38 PM)
Well said.

As many people already mentioned, PMX is not righting the wrongs but continue the wrongs ways to stay in power.

Really a big letdown.
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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:12 PM)
low value goods - tax! high value goods also tax. luxury goods tax also. might as well just say tax everything
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Government need money, Scared lost votes if introduce GST, then introduce so many type of taxes.
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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:14 PM)
Tu la gst 6% don’t wan la now charge u 10% sales tax on everything … but y ok rm500 below and not rm500 above stuff wanna protect helang ?
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above also kena
remember the luxury tax being announced

basically all kena
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QUOTE(Alternate Gabriel @ Dec 15 2023, 09:40 PM)
Since when buy online is cheap.

Buy groceries item are more expensive than at brick & mortar stores.
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not really
when u buy stuff at physical stores...u buy from the middle man...aka NSK, giant, TF value mart..etc etc

u buy online, u buy straight from the source aka producer
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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Dec 15 2023, 09:47 PM)
Government need money, Scared lost votes if introduce GST, then introduce so many type of taxes.
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maybe voters are orang kampong. that dont buy online from us, thailand, china.
so this tax no impact on those voters?

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Dec 15 2023, 09:50 PM)
maybe voters are orang kampong. that dont buy online from us, thailand, china.
so this tax no impact on those voters?
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I think nowadays most old folks can buy online already. So easy buy from shopee or lazada.

So I don't know la. I cuma nampak this PH government mcm takut sgt dgn GST. Padahal semua benda tax tax tax sama je at the end.
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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Dec 15 2023, 09:14 PM)
Tu la gst 6% don’t wan la now charge u 10% sales tax on everything … but y ok rm500 below and not rm500 above stuff wanna protect helang ?
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The GST % which proposed by team Bossku shld be changed with "HIGH" tax on items that cost very high & to those who hv very high-income tax.

Meanwhile, "LOW" tax shld charged on items that cost certain value or low price to those who hv low-income tax/etc...

Else, what is the "best" use for LHDN to keep digging income tax because their way of digging the tax doesn't seem like comforting the rakyat at all. They giving RM100 to e-wallet also useless because that is their "rasuah" to deceive rakyats. I believe many will think, "wah dpt RM100, maka kerajaan bagus." bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Dec 15 2023, 09:06 PM)
I don't know how this will be implemented, but people have short memory. You don't just pay 6% on GST. GST is not implemented on end user sale only.
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end user absorbs the full brunt of GST

the middleman just claim back the cost and pay the difference collected
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QUOTE(ykj @ Dec 15 2023, 09:38 PM)
Well said.

As many people already mentioned, PMX is not righting the wrongs but continue the wrongs ways to stay in power.

Really a big letdown.
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Dec 15 2023, 07:53 PM)
How about reduce govt spending
- reduce public servant...
- reduce minister....
- reduce oversea trip....
- remove allowance....
Etc....
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CCB i now buy everything online. Groceries also. So everything will be 10% higher compared to purchase at physical store?
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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:12 PM)
low value goods - tax! high value goods also tax. luxury goods tax also. might as well just say tax everything
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Basically a GST concept
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Nope. This tax only applies to international items that  are   shipped to Malaysia.
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Ok.... so I guess items that are bought overseas and sent here, then supplier sell to customers not chargeable 10% ah?

But then again..... 10% markup.........
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Apa lanjiao we have luxury tax now we also tax low value items? This gomen really want to gorek every cent from rakyat?
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rmb to buy ur iherb on christmas sales, next year sure more than 10%
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Sooo items bought from personal shoppers won't get taxed right? Since they aren't selling the items on any specific online platforms (unless if they consider X or Google Forms online platforms, idk) and I highly doubt they sell more than RM 500,000 worth of goods to Malaysia every year.
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QUOTE(spamfish @ Dec 15 2023, 08:13 PM)
no balls to bring back gst have to resort to this...madani oh madani...
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I think this was actually a loophole to avoid import tax, and government covered it now.

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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Dec 15 2023, 08:53 PM)
there is already existing kastam tax for goods >rm500
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TS copy pasta article doesn't mention this nor tax is for 'imported' goods. Dunno he copy pasta wrong or shit article writer.
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Dec 15 2023, 08:10 PM)
CCB i now buy everything online. Groceries also. So everything will be 10% higher compared to purchase at physical store?
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Bulan April 2023 tu hari suppose apply this 10% things
but madani postpone. but shopee and lazada since Januari 2023
already price up transaction fees + service fees
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The GST % which proposed by team Bossku shld be changed with "HIGH" tax on items that cost very high & to those who hv very high-income tax.

Meanwhile, "LOW" tax shld charged on items that cost certain value or low price to those who hv low-income tax/etc...

Else, what is the "best" use for LHDN to keep digging income tax because their way of digging the tax doesn't seem like comforting the rakyat at all. They giving RM100 to e-wallet also useless because that is their "rasuah" to deceive rakyats. I believe many will think, "wah dpt RM100, maka kerajaan bagus."  bangwall.gif
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actually banyak orang sakit hati due to cost of living naik like F these days

imagine roadside ciken rice also now rm7, rm8

rice wit egg rm4

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too bad either this or pas. haih mad.gif
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Dec 15 2023, 11:51 PM)
Bulan April 2023 tu hari suppose apply this 10% things
but madani postpone. but shopee and lazada since Januari 2023
already price up transaction fees + service fees
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ur business ok boss? hopefully everything should be better

but this time if they gila wanna do pkp for the second time, memang GG lah malaysia
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Delayed imposition of sales tax on B2C low value goods goes ahead 1 January 2024

https://www.vatcalc.com/malaysia/malaysia-s...-to-march-2023/

Reforms to sales tax on small value packages have now been confirmed for 1 January 2024. The Royal Malaysian Customs Department had previously postponed the imposition of sales tax reforms on small parcel imports twice in 2023.

The Malaysian Sales Tax Bill passed in the Parliament in 2022 imposes 10% Sales Tax on the imports of goods being sold to consumers under a de minimis threshold. This is RM 500 (approx $112) valued at CIF (Cost + Insurance + Freight). This applies to sellers (‘Registered Sellers’) and digital platforms facilitating Registered Sellers. There is an annual sales threshold of MYR 500,000, approximately US$ 115,000. Local equivalent sales of goods may be at lower rates of 5% or 0% depending on the HS Code classification – but this does not apply to imports which are all subject to 10%. Excise goods (e.g. cigerettes) are not included.

The Malaysian Customs Department has issued a FAQ‘s to help sellers and marketplaces.

https://mysst.customs.gov.my/assets/documen...206.11.2023.pdf
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Sales Tax on imported e-commerce low value goods

Any online sellers or facilitating marketplaces selling to consumers imported goods shipped by air RM500 will have to charge 10% Sales Tax in the checkout or be subject to import tax. Previously, such sales are exempt. Both resident sellers and foreign will be required to follow this new obligation – meaning non-resident tax registrations for foreign sellers. It is not yet clear how collections online will be coordinated with border control to prevent double taxation.

Sellers are required to complete a consignment note with the goods being imported, clearly indicating their tax registration number. Returns are completed in a by-monthly basis.

This follows the examples of shifting the import tax burden from the border customs control to the checkout in jurisdictions including Australia, New Zealand and the EU e-commerce package.

Once registered to report collected import Sales Tax, non-residents will be expected to file each quarter. They will have to submit their return and Sales Tax collected by the end of the following month. This is payable in Ringgit Malaysia.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 15 2023, 07:22 PM)
this is for china sellers on local platform

example u see china sellers sell rm10 on shopee, so after tax will be rm11. government wan to help local sellers actually. now many china sellers on shopee lazada didnt pay any tax
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? seller pays?… is it the buyer who pays the rm11.00?, so it’s the buyer who pays..
the seller still collects rm10, buyer pays rm11 instead of rm10..
eventually, it will still fall back to supply and demand..
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We should embrace all the taxes with open heart..asal bukan puas..kek
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Dec 15 2023, 08:10 PM)
CCB i now buy everything online. Groceries also. So everything will be 10% higher compared to purchase at physical store?
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QUOTE(galkelly @ Dec 15 2023, 08:12 PM)
Niama jus keep on taxing the rakyat...
Gov so many minister all makan taik punya
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i think too many ppl buy on shopee, MYR flowing out faster than coming in. So our govt tax online purchases.
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QUOTE(GiganticBird @ Dec 15 2023, 08:18 PM)
tell me how many % of the local seller here not selling stuff that was imported from china, probably less than 2%
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QUOTE(msacras @ Dec 15 2023, 08:19 PM)
Local sellers supposedly import in big scales and already subjected to import duty before this.

This new tax is to kill those dropshippers or small scale businesses.
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topkek they want to impose this tax to local seller not foreign seller.

PH govt also topkek sometimes. too much MYR outflow kot
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MYR will drop further on monday....

they always like to announce this stuptard news on Friday after market close... topkek
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:22 PM)
this is for china sellers on local platform

example u see china sellers sell rm10 on shopee, so after tax will be rm11. government wan to help local sellers actually. now many china sellers on shopee lazada didnt pay any tax
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China seller didn’t pay tax but punished us Malaysians who want cheaper goods and pay more tax? Nice…
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Dec 16 2023, 03:26 AM)
topkek they want to impose this tax to local seller not foreign seller.

PH govt also topkek sometimes. too much MYR outflow kot
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This tax is for foreign sellers (and the tax actually paid by local consumers/small resellers).

Last time zaman Bijan i experienced before, taobao system auto applying GST at checkout citing its gomen directive. Its gone after LGE remove the GST.

So long story short, all this while we have the rule above RM500 will kena import taxes (subjected to the courier declaration and spot checks). This new tax is to cover off the remaining range of under RM500 items, which mean technically gomen can tax everything you imported be it above RM500 or under RM500.

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Dec 16 2023, 03:39 AM)
China seller didn’t pay tax but punished us Malaysians who want cheaper goods and pay more tax? Nice…
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Local taxes are paid by the buyer

This new tax just covers the loophole where items below rm500 become tax free

It is nothing to do with the seller in china

Unless u request DDP terms
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QUOTE(Alternate Gabriel @ Dec 15 2023, 09:40 PM)
Since when buy online is cheap.

Buy groceries item are more expensive than at brick & mortar stores.
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Wow, you have a brilliant comment that no one in the world knows about! If buy online is not cheap, the rakyat must be idiots all this while. Also, if your comment is true, it totally defeats the very reason given for implementing this tax, right?
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eh jibai previouly I thought already tax 1 time at distribution level what.

pukimak mahaldani gomen

BMX apa lanjau tax lagi u mau kasi tambah

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Dec 16 2023, 12:32 AM)
actually banyak orang sakit hati due to cost of living naik like F these days

imagine roadside ciken rice also now rm7, rm8

rice wit egg rm4

wtf

too bad either this or pas. haih  mad.gif
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QUOTE(KenM @ Dec 16 2023, 03:16 AM)
? seller pays?… is it the buyer who pays the rm11.00?, so it’s the buyer who pays..
the seller still collects rm10, buyer pays rm11 instead of rm10..
eventually, it will still fall back to supply and demand..
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Some similar items china seller price 30% lower than local seller. So who I wanna buy from even with the tax!

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 16 2023, 01:23 PM)
RTX4090 up 10%?
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Think not because that card already above Rm500 which already tax, the tax they want to implement are these item below rm500 will be tax 10% so no more free tax for under rm500 items.
But depends on seller anyway they mark up bloody price for it even the new tax does not related.

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Ayam support... tax more then 10% oso still ok..... Asal bukan puas...
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kena liao... bought something overseas ... kena 10%
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Dec 16 2023, 01:15 PM)
kena liao... bought something overseas ... kena 10%
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ur item below rm500? written LVG tax ka
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ur item below rm500? written LVG tax ka
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Appologies... more than RM500.. ST.10% hehehe
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just bring back 6% GST much better instead of all sampah taxes.

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 15 2023, 09:48 PM)
above also kena
remember the luxury tax being announced

basically all kena
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how the gov going to collect these small amount ? like i purchase something worth rm10 from shopee, shopee charge direct ?
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Dec 15 2023, 08:21 PM)
Diesel remove
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Inkambing removal of tongkat ron95 ..

Ayam support.... remove fuel tongkat n tax kaw2....
Asal bukan puas....

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Dec 16 2023, 01:30 PM)
how the gov going to collect these small amount ? like i purchase something worth rm10 from shopee, shopee charge direct ?
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there's transaction record, same concept as buying from supermarket i guess
that's why fahmi is busy with tiktok shop because tiktok shop don't have transaction record
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 16 2023, 02:51 PM)
there's transaction record, same concept as buying from supermarket i guess
that's why fahmi is busy with tiktok shop because tiktok shop don't have transaction record
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whos going to pay ? like if i online buy from a website then transfer money direct then the item ship to malaysia, it will get stuck in custom until i pay the 10% tax ? omfg.
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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:12 PM)
low value goods - tax! high value goods also tax. luxury goods tax also. might as well just say tax everything
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Local sellers supposedly import in big scales and already subjected to import duty before this.

This new tax is to kill those dropshippers or small scale businesses.
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Dec 16 2023, 02:55 PM)
whos going to pay ? like if i online buy from a website then transfer money direct then the item ship to malaysia, it will get stuck in custom until i pay the 10% tax ? omfg.
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we're paying it all at the website

the news did mention "delivered to Malaysia by vendors registered with the finance ministry"

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 16 2023, 03:23 PM)
we're paying it all at the website

the news did mention "delivered to Malaysia by vendors registered with the finance ministry"
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what if they didnt register ?

for example, i make a website and sell underwear, with payment gateway anybody on the planet can make transaction and pay me, once i collected the money, i ship out the item to their address, who cares its in israel or ukraine, i just ship, do i need to register to ukraine or israel gov for shipping things to their country ?
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Dec 16 2023, 03:26 PM)
what if they didnt register ?

for example, i make a website and sell underwear, with payment gateway anybody on the planet can make transaction and pay me, once i collected the money, i ship out the item to their address, who cares its in israel or ukraine, i just ship, do i need to register to ukraine or israel gov for shipping things to their country ?
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taxed at customs i guess
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 16 2023, 03:27 PM)
taxed at customs i guess
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thats the problem i purchase something low value, maybe rm10, ship in envelop or small package, how the custom trace the item value and tax me RM1 and how do i pay that RM1 ? the manpower cost of tracing and collecting payment far exceed the tax they gain.
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Dec 16 2023, 03:26 PM)
what if they didnt register ?

for example, i make a website and sell underwear, with payment gateway anybody on the planet can make transaction and pay me, once i collected the money, i ship out the item to their address, who cares its in israel or ukraine, i just ship, do i need to register to ukraine or israel gov for shipping things to their country ?
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then custom will detain your delivery and make you personally goto customer warehouse at Sepang to pickup your RM10 toy?
or you can pay runner RM50 to represent you at sepang?

how does this work? terimakasih madani

in corrupt countries like afrika, add beaucracy to increase likelyhood of bribery.

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Dec 16 2023, 03:29 PM)
thats the problem i purchase something low value, maybe rm10, ship in envelop or small package, how the custom trace the item value and tax me RM1 and how do i pay that RM1 ? the manpower cost of tracing and collecting payment far exceed the tax they gain.
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i think all parcel have to mention the value of the object inside
even if u go send stuff at J&T, they'll also ask u to fill in the value of the stuff inside
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 15 2023, 08:22 PM)
this is for china sellers on local platform

example u see china sellers sell rm10 on shopee, so after tax will be rm11. government wan to help local sellers actually. now many china sellers on shopee lazada didnt pay any tax
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but "local" seller (person actually living in malaysia) also source their inventory from china/oversea...
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 16 2023, 03:31 PM)
i think all parcel have to mention the value of the object inside
even if u go send stuff at J&T, they'll also ask u to fill in the value of the stuff inside
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that is not a world standard, you do that here, doesnt mean entire world do that, and even its written, in japanese, korean, manafaskar, and currency in all different currency, how u gonna handle ?

thats why the current system in place, custom only stop expensive package and tax kao kao, ignore all the sardine, cause the manpower to handle all the sardines completely not worth it, its like 10x more work(far more small packages), and 10x smaller income.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 16 2023, 03:31 PM)
i think all parcel have to mention the value of the object inside
even if u go send stuff at J&T, they'll also ask u to fill in the value of the stuff inside
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yup buy RM 0.10 runberbands need provide cerification and supporting document and declare it to custom. custom need go throught alm the documentation and access it value and tax it RM 0.01. all in a days work. time well spent.

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Dec 16 2023, 03:35 PM)
that is not a world standard, you do that here, doesnt mean entire world do that, and even its written, in japanese, korean, manafaskar, and currency in all different currency, how u gonna handle ?

thats why the current system in place, custom only stop expensive package and tax kao kao, ignore all the sardine, cause the manpower to handle all the sardines completely not worth it, its like 10x more work(far more small packages), and 10x smaller income.
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they're creating jobs laugh.gif

immigration and customs kan complain lack of manpower
now with new stream of revenue, they can finally hire more manpower
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Tats right..

But he prefer to pattern banyak
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Dec 16 2023, 03:35 PM)
that is not a world standard, you do that here, doesnt mean entire world do that, and even its written, in japanese, korean, manafaskar, and currency in all different currency, how u gonna handle ?

thats why the current system in place, custom only stop expensive package and tax kao kao, ignore all the sardine, cause the manpower to handle all the sardines completely not worth it, its like 10x more work(far more small packages), and 10x smaller income.
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since need more manpower to check the RM20 underwear package, will need to recruit another 10K government workers like greece, argentina, venezuale and zimbabwe?
ayam konopuis on this.
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 15 2023, 09:20 PM)
you can choose

1. Taxation of 10%, ringgit remains stable as government no longer print money but choose the painful path to increase taxation but maintain value of ringgit.

2. No taxation, but ringgit depreciates another 10% due to more deficit and printing of money.
You buy from China, RM300, gomen tax 10%, you pay RM330.

You buy from China, gomen no tax, but ringgit falls 10%, you need RM330 to buy the same amount of good.

Which one  you choose?
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I am not economy expert

So I ask if it's really want you mean.. with this 10% tax, our MYR will not depreciate as bad as it is depreciating now?
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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Dec 16 2023, 03:44 PM)
since need more manpower to check the RM20 underwear package, will need to recruit another 10K government workers like greece, argentina, venezuale and zimbabwe?
ayam konopuis on this.
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my common sense tell me its not going to work and custom will just open 1 eye close 1 eye, not stopping anything, cause they dont have the capacity to trace/keep/store that many small package per day.
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Dec 16 2023, 03:29 PM)
thats the problem i purchase something low value, maybe rm10, ship in envelop or small package, how the custom trace the item value and tax me RM1 and how do i pay that RM1 ? the manpower cost of tracing and collecting payment far exceed the tax they gain.
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Just like all those subsidies mechanism. End up costing more for enforcement.
Or they charge from retail site. Which will just make people buy from online less.

That's one of the reasons for postponement.
Customs headache over tracking, enforcement, categorisation, recording, reporting.

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I am not economy expert

So I ask if it's really want you mean.. with this 10% tax, our MYR will not depreciate as bad as it is depreciating now?
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I am saying in general, the government can choose few ways to deal with increased spending.

Taxation is not popular because it puts less money in people's pocket. GST isn't popular because everyone gets taxed. But taxation has net effect of decreasing money supply in the system in some ways because there is less ringgit circulating in the market which has effect on consumption and inflation. Less people spend , less demand for good, prices of good fall.

Taxation also increases government revenue and reduces deficit, which investors like as they will see Malaysia as stable. Ringgit will be stable.


If you don't tax, government has no way to get more money but resort to borrowing by issuing debt papers, which has net effect of increasing ringgit supply vs US dollar in market. In long run, our deficit will be high, and debt reaching 1.5 trillion now, which looks very bad for investors. Even local investors are worried about it and convert their Ringgit to USD and SGD, making ringgit depreciates.

You will still get RM2000 in your hand, but that RM2000 can buy very little things.. like what is happening to ringgit vs SGD....
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low value goods - tax! high value goods also tax. luxury goods tax also. might as well just say tax everything
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 16 2023, 04:06 PM)
I am saying in general, the government can choose few ways to deal with increased spending.

Taxation is not popular because it puts less money in people's pocket. GST isn't popular because everyone gets taxed. But taxation has net effect of decreasing money supply in the system in some ways because there is less ringgit circulating in the market which has effect on consumption and inflation. Less people spend , less demand for good, prices of good fall.

Taxation also increases government revenue and reduces deficit, which investors like as they will see Malaysia as stable. Ringgit will be stable.
If you don't tax, government has no way to get more money but resort to borrowing by issuing debt papers, which has net effect of increasing ringgit supply vs US dollar in market. In long run, our deficit will be high, and debt reaching 1.5 trillion now, which looks very bad for investors. Even local investors are worried about it and convert their Ringgit to USD and SGD, making ringgit depreciates.

You will still get RM2000 in your hand, but that RM2000 can buy very little things.. like what is happening to ringgit vs SGD....
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maybe dont spend billions on stealth ships and moral pulis? then dont need to issue debt paper
or is that too hard to understand?



As expected, Hishammuddin did not state any financial cost of the project apart from saying that the vendors of the project have financial commitments of RM4 billion. As the government already has paid some RM6.1 billion for the project, we can assumed that the RM9.1 billion ceiling price will be breached. As I stated earlier, the estimates for the project cost – if it was started in January 2022 – was RM14 billion.

Why is the estimates to restart the project important? The previous defence minister had already told the government will not pay more than the ceiling price (RM9.1 billion) though he did not say who will pay for the higher costs. I am told that Boustead Heavy Engineering Corporation (BHIC) – the parent company of BNS – will pay for the the costs overrun (some RM5 billion) by issuing an Islamic sukuk (bonds

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everything under $500
So basically almost 90% of online purchases ah?
dont want to tax china or other foreign based imports so just slap everything with 10%
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I am saying in general, the government can choose few ways to deal with increased spending.

Taxation is not popular because it puts less money in people's pocket. GST isn't popular because everyone gets taxed. But taxation has net effect of decreasing money supply in the system in some ways because there is less ringgit circulating in the market which has effect on consumption and inflation. Less people spend , less demand for good, prices of good fall.

Taxation also increases government revenue and reduces deficit, which investors like as they will see Malaysia as stable. Ringgit will be stable.
If you don't tax, government has no way to get more money but resort to borrowing by issuing debt papers, which has net effect of increasing ringgit supply vs US dollar in market. In long run, our deficit will be high, and debt reaching 1.5 trillion now, which looks very bad for investors. Even local investors are worried about it and convert their Ringgit to USD and SGD, making ringgit depreciates.

You will still get RM2000 in your hand, but that RM2000 can buy very little things.. like what is happening to ringgit vs SGD....
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So gomen also need to spend wisely.. RM100 ewallet was not necessary, those that have moved to cashless gonna stay with cashless, and those that still prefer cash, just gonna dump the ewallet app after finishing the RM100.

RM100 x 10 million.. that's huge.

.. and 2 billion for jakim.

Instead of removing GST completely, turning it into 1% would have been helpful until today.

Also, a lot of those evading tax.. gomen should go after them.




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Local sellers supposedly import in big scales and already subjected to import duty before this.

This new tax is to kill those dropshippers or small scale businesses.
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I import stuff directly from brand owner with yearly sales and purchase agreement, service center, providing after sales support and goods return. Have to pay duty and tax upon arrival in port Klang

Meanwhile some clever consumer decided to order from taobao, change plug themselves and use it. But when things spoilt they want service but I cannot offer because it follows batch number.

Good initiative by government btw.
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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Dec 16 2023, 04:15 PM)
So gomen also need to spend wisely.. RM100 ewallet was not necessary, those that have moved to cashless gonna stay with cashless, and those that still prefer cash, just gonna dump the ewallet app after finishing the RM100.

RM100 x 10 million.. that's huge.

.. and 2 billion for jakim.

Instead of removing GST completely, turning it into 1% would have been helpful until today.

Also, a lot of those evading tax.. gomen should go after them.
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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Dec 16 2023, 04:15 PM)
So gomen also need to spend wisely.. RM100 ewallet was not necessary, those that have moved to cashless gonna stay with cashless, and those that still prefer cash, just gonna dump the ewallet app after finishing the RM100.

RM100 x 10 million.. that's huge.

.. and 2 billion for jakim.

Instead of removing GST completely, turning it into 1% would have been helpful until today.

Also, a lot of those evading tax.. gomen should go after them.
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at least the current government is more responsible fiscally, unlike previous government just dig into people's own money in EPF as solution.

But it will take time for ringgit to recover. The ringgit has a crisis of confidence, not only from foreign investors, but from Malaysians themselves.

A very simple question is , if there is a free flow of money and opening of account, which currency would you hold now?

SGD, USD , pound, euro right?

if even malaysians are converting their Ringgit to USD, ringgit cannot stop depreciating unless there is a capital control.... but that will further erode malaysia standing in world financial system....
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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Dec 16 2023, 04:15 PM)
So gomen also need to spend wisely.. RM100 ewallet was not necessary, those that have moved to cashless gonna stay with cashless, and those that still prefer cash, just gonna dump the ewallet app after finishing the RM100.

RM100 x 10 million.. that's huge.

.. and 2 billion for jakim.

Instead of removing GST completely, turning it into 1% would have been helpful until today.

Also, a lot of those evading tax.. gomen should go after them.
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turn GST to 1%.. govt lose more income rather than SST 10%.. GST does not automatically translate to more income to the country. all still back to how many % it is tax..
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Padan reject summor GST.

LGE already warn u all long ago.
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hard to say also.. with GST.. i think govt even happier direct up it to 10% across the board rather than 1 by 1 like now..
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Oh no. Will game and hobby item imported increase price?
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In November, the Small and Medium Enterprises Association of Malaysia (Samenta) urged Putrajaya to implement the tax to mitigate the “uneven competition” between brick-and-mortar stores and online marketplaces.

Samenta president William Ng said local retailers have to pay taxes, rent and overheads, while online sellers often avoid their tax responsibility and tend to pay lower rent and overheads, if any.
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William Ng cant compete, and now blame online sellers.

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Oh no. Will game and hobby item imported increase price?
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On theory it shouldn’t as those stuffs had been subjected to normal import duties all these while.

But on practical, you know I know this is Malaysia, land of countless possibilities, LOLOLOL
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ur business ok boss? hopefully everything should be better

but this time if they gila wanna do pkp for the second time, memang GG lah malaysia
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So u think pas can managed better in the current global environment?
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PAS of course kenot
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QUOTE(Marcion @ Dec 16 2023, 01:07 PM)
Think not because that card already above Rm500 which already tax, the tax they want to implement are these item below rm500 will be tax 10% so no more free tax for under rm500 items.
But depends on seller anyway they mark up bloody price for it even the new tax does not related.
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china sellers also competing with each other in every platform

basically who selling cheaper will get the market
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Dec 16 2023, 02:55 PM)
whos going to pay ? like if i online buy from a website then transfer money direct then the item ship to malaysia, it will get stuck in custom until i pay the 10% tax ? omfg.
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it has been that way since I bought amazon stuff back in late 90s
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QUOTE(brkli @ Dec 16 2023, 03:34 PM)
but "local" seller (person actually living in malaysia) also source their inventory from china/oversea...
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so u will notice your hp casing, hp screen protector naik a bit

and mr diy stuff also naik

as simple as that
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Dec 16 2023, 07:57 PM)
it has been that way since I bought amazon stuff back in late 90s
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so if you dont pay that 10% tax, what will happen ? items will be confiscated or ship back to seller ?
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so if you dont pay that 10% tax, what will happen ? items will be confiscated or ship back to seller ?
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I already paid for the stuff, of course I am aware of the taxes, but sometimes they can charge u more on diff categories.

can nego a bit at the custom officer, depends on the custom officer mood too-have to tipu a bit say lah this item is second hand, less a bit lah boss.

otherwise just pay the tax to the dhl/local courier upon receiving the stuff that u have ordered

those days many stuff like some import cds are not available locally, so have to bite the bullet lah

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same thing also if they tahan u randomly at the airport exit. some stuff kana tax. some dont. like that lah.

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Dec 16 2023, 08:04 PM)
I already paid for the stuff, of course I am aware of the taxes, but sometimes they can charge u more on diff categories.

can nego a bit at the custom officer, depends on the custom officer mood too-have to tipu a bit say lah this item is second hand, less a bit lah boss.

otherwise just pay the tax to the dhl/local courier upon receiving the stuff that u have ordered

those days many stuff like some import cds are not available locally, so have to bite the bullet lah
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lets say u buy something worth rm5, they claim it worth 500, want me to pay 50, i say f it, im not going to collect, what will happen to that rm5/500 item ?
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lets say u buy something worth rm5, they claim it worth 500, want me to pay 50, i say f it, im not going to collect, what will happen to that rm5/500 item ?
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return back to sender , as stated in the manifest
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so if you dont pay that 10% tax, what will happen ? items will be confiscated or ship back to seller ?
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pile up on customs warehouse (highly possible charge with warehouse fees and not claim), after a while, custom held a back yard sale to public. like container auction in youtube?
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so u will notice your hp casing, hp screen protector naik a bit

and mr diy stuff also naik

as simple as that
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Mr. DIY most likely already tax since their import sure more than RM 500. only those small and mid size seller which buy bulk (but try to make it below RM 500 or split deliver and etc) and sell it locally will be affected mostly.
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How do they know which is for personal use, and which is for sale? Both can be less than RM500.
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Dec 16 2023, 08:50 PM)
How do they know which is for personal use, and which is for sale? Both can be less than RM500.
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before this below RM500 consider personal use, not suppose to sell online gua.
nowadays consider declare below 500, everybody import similar goods separately (identity).
is affect regular shop seller who do proper declaration to competition with zero tax goods.

very similar how people angry on tesla get free tax, but local manufacture car 10% manufacture tax.
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pile up on customs warehouse (highly possible charge with warehouse fees and not claim), after a while, custom held a back yard sale to public. like container auction in youtube?
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auction of things that worth RM100 and below ? the cost of house keeping something like that for over a period of 1 year already far exceed the value of the item itself, and who going to bit something that has been in the storage for years, no warranty, no idea if it still work, its just a waste of man power, should just scrap after 1 month.
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soon shopee give 10% discount voucher
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We already pay income tax, now want to impose another 10% tax on poor ppl money less than RM500 goods...

Instead of Reform the govt, this farker manani reform us pula.... better change again ...
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GST used to be 6% but 10% for sales tax?

Any info on how this 10% amount was determined/justified?
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GST used to be 6% but 10% for sales tax?

Any info on how this 10% amount was determined/justified?
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We already pay income tax, now want to impose another 10% tax on poor ppl money less than RM500 goods...

Instead of Reform the govt, this farker manani reform us pula.... better change again ...
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If don't wanna pay just go buy at Mydin giant 99

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should just introduce GST back. bu they can't because Madani had demonised GST right from the beginning.

I am just curious how this would pan out for those who came back from overseas..are they going to check all the luggage at the airport?



QUOTE(vexus @ Dec 17 2023, 02:01 AM)
soon shopee give 10% discount voucher
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that is after they inflate the price by 15%
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We already pay income tax, now want to impose another 10% tax on poor ppl money less than RM500 goods...

Instead of Reform the govt, this farker manani reform us pula.... better change again ...
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ever since pmx, all i hear is tax tax tax
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At the same time, cut this cut that ... really should cut his term short
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How to pay 10% tax? Pay to delivery guy when they deliver your item?
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All those songlap-ness over the years, we all know 2024 will the payback year..lolx.

Brace for more incoming taxes and subsidies potong..

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This Palestinian pm really getting on my nerves lol...ur right though, I've heard so many times tax this tax that be honest and report all ur tax blah³

At the same time, cut this cut that ... really should cut his term short
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How to pay 10% tax? Pay to delivery guy when they deliver your item?
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Pay via courier usually.
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Hahaha today I found out that items I wanted to buy on Temu n SHEIN were 10% cheaper than yesterday.
That’s the power of online platforms by offering competitive products. We r a small country n as long as they can make a small profit, they sell. And we keep going back to buy more. laugh.gif
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post Jan 2 2024, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 1 2024, 12:13 PM)
How to pay 10% tax? Pay to delivery guy when they deliver your item?
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https://www.lowyat.net/2024/313648/shopee-l...s-tax-imported/
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post Jan 2 2024, 03:08 PM

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The tax already added to the cost of goods.

Many items in my shopping list already up by 10-12% since 26/12.
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post Jan 2 2024, 03:13 PM

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Ya, I saw my basket items already 10% higher in price than when I put them in. I wonder how taobao orders will be handled? Also, when items are returned/cancelled, will the 10% charge also be refunded?

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yeah.. i saw all the AAA copy ori from china also increased 10%.. haha
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Previously, was it a 10% tax if goods value exceed rm500?

Now goods imported from overseas valued at RM500 will be subject to a 10% online sales tax. So essentially it's a flat rate regardless of value?

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Dec 15 2023, 01:07 PM)
Free Malaysia Today
10% sales tax on online goods to apply from Jan 1
Story by FMT Reporters  •
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PETALING JAYA: A 10% sales tax will be imposed from Jan 1 on online sales of goods costing below RM500, according to a recent customs guide.

The low-value goods tax will apply on goods bought online and delivered to Malaysia by vendors registered with the finance ministry.

The tax was introduced in an amendment to the Sales Tax Act passed by the Dewan Rakyat in August last year and was to have been imposed from April 1 this year but was postponed.

The Dewan Rakyat was told last year that the government expects to collect RM200 million a year from the tax.

The deputy finance minister then, Shahar Abdullah, said the tax would level the playing field between online sellers both inside and outside Malaysia, and would empower local markets and businessmen.
The tax was first mooted by former finance minister Tengku Zafrul Aziz when tabling the 2022 budget.
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This is what happen when people rejected the GST at 6%. Many people prefer to pay more taxes.


 

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