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 A 10% sales tax will be imposed from Jan 1, on online goods costing below RM500

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narf03
post Dec 16 2023, 01:30 PM

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how the gov going to collect these small amount ? like i purchase something worth rm10 from shopee, shopee charge direct ?
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post Dec 16 2023, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 16 2023, 02:51 PM)
there's transaction record, same concept as buying from supermarket i guess
that's why fahmi is busy with tiktok shop because tiktok shop don't have transaction record
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whos going to pay ? like if i online buy from a website then transfer money direct then the item ship to malaysia, it will get stuck in custom until i pay the 10% tax ? omfg.
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post Dec 16 2023, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 16 2023, 03:23 PM)
we're paying it all at the website

the news did mention "delivered to Malaysia by vendors registered with the finance ministry"
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what if they didnt register ?

for example, i make a website and sell underwear, with payment gateway anybody on the planet can make transaction and pay me, once i collected the money, i ship out the item to their address, who cares its in israel or ukraine, i just ship, do i need to register to ukraine or israel gov for shipping things to their country ?
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post Dec 16 2023, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 16 2023, 03:27 PM)
taxed at customs i guess
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thats the problem i purchase something low value, maybe rm10, ship in envelop or small package, how the custom trace the item value and tax me RM1 and how do i pay that RM1 ? the manpower cost of tracing and collecting payment far exceed the tax they gain.
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post Dec 16 2023, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 16 2023, 03:31 PM)
i think all parcel have to mention the value of the object inside
even if u go send stuff at J&T, they'll also ask u to fill in the value of the stuff inside
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that is not a world standard, you do that here, doesnt mean entire world do that, and even its written, in japanese, korean, manafaskar, and currency in all different currency, how u gonna handle ?

thats why the current system in place, custom only stop expensive package and tax kao kao, ignore all the sardine, cause the manpower to handle all the sardines completely not worth it, its like 10x more work(far more small packages), and 10x smaller income.
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post Dec 16 2023, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Dec 16 2023, 03:44 PM)
since need more manpower to check the RM20 underwear package, will need to recruit another 10K government workers like greece, argentina, venezuale and zimbabwe?
ayam konopuis on this.
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my common sense tell me its not going to work and custom will just open 1 eye close 1 eye, not stopping anything, cause they dont have the capacity to trace/keep/store that many small package per day.
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post Dec 16 2023, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Dec 16 2023, 07:57 PM)
it has been that way since I bought amazon stuff back in late 90s
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so if you dont pay that 10% tax, what will happen ? items will be confiscated or ship back to seller ?
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post Dec 16 2023, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Dec 16 2023, 08:04 PM)
I already paid for the stuff, of course I am aware of the taxes, but sometimes they can charge u more on diff categories.

can nego a bit at the custom officer, depends on the custom officer mood too-have to tipu a bit say lah this item is second hand, less a bit lah boss.

otherwise just pay the tax to the dhl/local courier upon receiving the stuff that u have ordered

those days many stuff like some import cds are not available locally, so have to bite the bullet lah
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lets say u buy something worth rm5, they claim it worth 500, want me to pay 50, i say f it, im not going to collect, what will happen to that rm5/500 item ?
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post Dec 17 2023, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(tea_tree_oil @ Dec 16 2023, 08:38 PM)
pile up on customs warehouse (highly possible charge with warehouse fees and not claim), after a while, custom held a back yard sale to public. like container auction in youtube?
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auction of things that worth RM100 and below ? the cost of house keeping something like that for over a period of 1 year already far exceed the value of the item itself, and who going to bit something that has been in the storage for years, no warranty, no idea if it still work, its just a waste of man power, should just scrap after 1 month.

 

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