I am not expert. But mengandung autism baby can detect or not? If yes, u abort also?

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Can detect.
If confirm, will abort.

CAN CHECK GEH

BUT MAHAL LO

Down syndrome can detect.
Confirm abort.

No need two sides suffer.

autism and down syndrome different

autism difficult to test and cannot abort

This post has been edited by Pain4UrsinZ: Dec 9 2023, 03:46 PM

pity ts mom never abort ts

Do NICC test to detect Down syndrome

Expensive but the test worth it

If detect . About n try again

correct me if im wrong, but if u go KK they will not ask u to check? for private, They will give u this option. whether u wan to test or not, is up to u. but must check early, before 2 months iirc

R3z3k1.
Dug@@n.

Title mentions down syndrome but post written autism instead.

Down syndrome & autism are 2 different things.

conlanfirm abort la dey

if wife no understand..ill abort her too

This post has been edited by poco loco: Dec 9 2023, 03:49 PM

Moral and lifetime suffer dont mix.

mat 7 different things

Lol, abort wife.

the kid might thank you too when they r grown up later

yes abort

Lel

Autism can't detect during pregnancy

Downy can be detected. Can be aborted if you know where.

Later got unborn baby spirit

Very hard to release

medically, its testable and doctors will abort the baby if found

Can. First tri semester

And usually the doctor will advice you to abort the fetus

realeseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


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Down Syndrome is much more worse than Autism.

At least autism usually not a sickness. Your kid will become normal as the grow and mature.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Can really abort it ? Was it legal in Malaysia? I curious, I through is illegal.

Yes.

they wont see the light of day.IF its mine....will not risk it

Honestly if you dont abort even if you get the chance early, you are sort of insane to cause an innocent life born

You're wrong. Depends on where they are on the spectrum.
Some can't speak and communicate for life. Higher chances of mental illnesses like schizophrenia as well.

fak malaysia or which ever country that dont let me abort it.....tell them to bear the cost till they age 99 la...all kecut bola liao

Abort if detected. No need to think.

just punch her in the stomach. or push he down the stairs

but how much we talking about the cost to check this thinggy?if mahal like cb then i also understand y ppl no 1 to check geh

How do you test for autism? Down syndrome can la

Autism or down syndrome?

That one B10 method
M40 still have better options

Your thinking like this, no wonder forever alone lor

No, severe autism can be as bad or worse than downs from the mental perspective, just no physical deformity as well

it is a logical way

This post has been edited by poco loco: Dec 9 2023, 04:19 PM

There is no test for autism. In fact it can't even be diagnosed properly until the child is 1-2 year old

Which country lol? Sure not malaysia

This post has been edited by thkent91: Dec 9 2023, 04:18 PM

Sure a lot of people will say "Deii ... kasi chan".

The reply is ... "My wife didn't give me a chance unless I am the guy she wants ... why should I give a chance to a kid that isn't what I want?"

Interesting how that works ... a lot of people want other people to "kasi chan" ... when they wouldn't do the same

Mine just better than you a bit. It's better for other people to kill than i personally do it myself. Itu saje

u just found the killer on that autism murdered kid liao....now u know who is the hidden suspect (not to spill the beans 1st to the media)

This post has been edited by poco loco: Dec 9 2023, 04:22 PM

Can also get schizophrenia if they like marijuana.

Schizophrenia is an equal opportunity condition

Down Syndrome != Autism
detect with NICC test.. if detected, doctor will advise abort..
yes legal to abort since baby got birth defect

Autism can only detect around 2 years old

legally it's not called abortion, but it's practiced by selective few
those who knows, knows.

When you come to that stage, you will know what to do. If everybody say cannot but it doesn't affect them but you only.
Illegal or not - you come to that stage doctor will advise you. Private will ask u when you and ur wife go do check up. Traditional they measure the neck width from the Xray. U pay is to do actual test - which is much more accurate.

Abortion, like other crimes ... it's only illegal if you get caught.

I repeat what I said elsewhere ...

Nobody in Malaysia with political weight will dare to clearly say "Abortion is illegal in Malaysia" ...
but
- We are an Islamic country
- That polices how people dress
- But doesn't allow virginity testing

Quite confusing really, but that is the story of Malaysia. Avoiding the hard questions and commitment, but muddling through day by day, while basking in social restrictions, that don't apply to the attractive, connected and rich ... while talking about "meritocracy" and "social contract"

m40 non muslim you mean

Nope. I don't think Muslim will agree

It's relative to which religion and upbringing you are bought up

Nobody likes answer that they doesn't want to hear... Addressing the elephant in the room is one thing, taking the elephant out is another.

This post has been edited by thkent91: Dec 9 2023, 04:28 PM

General guideline. No.

You can't commit a murder.

Maybe TS is both.

This is true. You can only abort if the child risk the health of the mom.

Like I mentioned, u guys happy gives answer when you have not even come to this stage.
If u use religion as argument, u will already have answer. If that's the case, don't ever ask the doctor to even test or give u answer. That's why private practice ask you u advance what is your view.

Once u come to this stage u will figure out.

Apples and oranges.

Downs is a genetic condition that can be detected thru genetic testing of the amniotic fluid, though it’s a risky procedure to get the fluid.

Autism is a developmental and neurological condition that cannot be tested for in utero.

Abortion not illegal here, doctors are empowered to do so if they judge that health and life of the mother is at risk from carrying on with the pregnancy. Mothers who have a second pregnancy too soon after a C section birth do abort.

Down syndrome and autism lain la

yes

Can detect.

Will abort.

My cousin did that in the late 90s, not in My though.

This post has been edited by SammyMan: Dec 9 2023, 05:23 PM

abort, its act of mercy for both the kid and parents. both don't need to suffer for life.

Dont pancut awal first, its legal in Malaysia provided fullfil certain condition.

Some may find the following info useful:

About abortion in Malaysia
https://www.moh.gov.my/moh/images/gallery/G...%20in%20MOH.pdf

About detecting autism during pregnancy
https://www.medicoexperts.com/signs-of-auti...ring-pregnancy/

make of it what you will.

100% abort

pls spend a little extra to get tested during pregnancy

FUIYOH

Autism cannot be detected until 2 years of age

But dont mean once detect autism can kill

Oops, Down syndrome

I am just asking on behalf of my innocence on this.
now alr 2023, why does the gov did not encourage all parents with potential disable baby go for abortion? Why go extra length and wait for parents initiative to take the bullet then only do it?

I mean it will do good for everyone also right?

depend on u whether u can handle or not lor

Autism can’t detect during pregnancy la
Downy yes, one the purpose doc monitor your baby length because it’s one the indicator.
Start with the cheaper option which is detail scan.
The doc will refer u to HKL if they found ur baby have all the downy criteria.

Autism =/= Down Syndrome

Will abort as i do not want everyone to suffer and not dictated by relegion

When is elon musk going to come out with genetic engineered baby ??
BTW elon also autistic. There goes a genius. Maybe more....

This post has been edited by Singh_Kalan: Dec 9 2023, 07:32 PM

This, noneed bring him to this world surfer

Really? Source?

The question is how accurate the test is?

Do you potentially kill a normal human to be?

Is fetus consider human/life by your moral book?

Saikopek syndrome can't be detect

Autism cannot be detected during pregnancy, autism can be managed if detected early in the kid’s life.

Down syndrome can be tested during pregnancy

AFAIK, both down syndrome and autism will bring parents and kids disaster for life. I might say nightmares hunting you for life.

Your life as couples will be broken for life.
Your life as parents will be broken for life.
Your career and hobbies will be end road.
You will have sleepness nights for the rest of your life.
Both husband and wife couldn't travel abroad and leave your child alone at home even if your child reaches 18.
Both mum and dad will need to take care of your kid for the rest of your life even during your retirement life as your kid is unable to take care of himself/herself
Results in more and more arguments between child, parents, spouse, parents-in-law etc
Results in hate more than love between parents and your child.
The worst part is... your kid doesn't even know you are his dad/mum even if your kid matures. THINK ABOUT IT

Basically is like taking care of a very ill patient on bed for the rest of your life without having any time for rests.

You will eventually think that if can turn back time, I rather not having any child or even getting married in the first place.

I heard if proven before birthday that the baby have any issue like down sydrome or mother have health issue, it is allowed

If confirmed. Confirm abort. Don't make his life hard and yours as well.

Why u no do poll

you say test then people must test ah? you take the god for what?

nothing is 100% accurate anyway

a detection of down syndrome DNA/marker is just a number, a result for couple & doc to discuss and decide best course of action

yeah, definition of a foetus varies, whether considered a human or still considered basic cell organism still in development.

this portion need the couple to work out and decide.

if to abort, doc can legally do the procedure (I guess it's called ERPOC) with test results, doc assessment, and consent from couple.

Yes can detect to a degree if I remember correctly, I not a dr myself

Yes I will abort but I will let wife have final say because her body

1000% abort deport

Down syndrome can detect but autism cannot

*touch wood*

if < certain month to consider as "life" then yes

thats why NICC test need to as early as possible

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Dec 9 2023, 08:14 PM

if u take the test earlier ..then u can go "seek for second opinion"

if few report from different source also claim that

ultimately it's your choice to choose to believe or not


from doc perspective ..if fetus > 16 weeks they will only consider as "life"

and NICC can take as early as 12 weeks

so u got 1 month to think n decide

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Dec 9 2023, 08:17 PM

terminate

its not opinion anymore if tasted positive down syndrome

he/she is questioning on the accuracy of the test ma

then he/she can go different place to take n confirm lor


if not then he/she can just choose to ignore and move on to deliver the baby

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Dec 9 2023, 08:20 PM

very accurate

cb TS ask to discuss but never bother to replied any or discuss any

During my time, there weren't any accurate test that could 100% determine that. From what my brother and cousin told me, right now nicc test can achieve 99%... I think the reason they put 99% is to avoid being sued

Got karma one.

TS is retarded with down syndrome because he can't differentiate between down syndrome and autism.

No diff

Ktard oledi fap the child into toilet daily