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Fuel Subsidy CUT: diesel and then RON95, A lot of talk but will we walk the walk?
Mavik
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Dec 4 2023, 08:42 AM
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Patience is a virtue
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Dec 4 2023, 01:28 AM) They should just remove all. Then no need the administration headache to implement, monitor and enforce. Better way to use that manpower on something more productive. Yes, I agree with this. Just need to rip the band-aid off and slowly let the market correct itself.
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TSEnergyAnalyst
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Dec 4 2023, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Dec 4 2023, 01:28 AM) They should just remove all. Then no need the administration headache to implement, monitor and enforce. Better way to use that manpower on something more productive. QUOTE(Mavik @ Dec 4 2023, 08:42 AM) Yes, I agree with this. Just need to rip the band-aid off and slowly let the market correct itself. That would be political suicides, unity government would not have the guts. They have been operating on a similar mode via re- distributing wealth by taxing more on the rich and big company and going more easy or even helping on the smaller guys....and smaller businesses An example will be when luxury tax is announced, RM2500 e bike incentive is announced for those who earns less than 'RM120,000 per year
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TSEnergyAnalyst
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Dec 4 2023, 12:26 PM
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babisotong
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Dec 5 2023, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Dec 1 2023, 11:08 PM) No.. this is from GOV survey "Kumpulan isi rumah B80 (Pendapatan di bawah RM11,819)"
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TSEnergyAnalyst
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Oct 19 2024, 12:34 AM
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https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/a...a-s-budget-2025Datuk Seri Anwar on Oct 18 said that the government will remove fuel subsidies for RON 95, a heavily subsidised petrol, by the middle of 2025.
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Roman Catholic
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Oct 20 2024, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(pcdoctor_my @ Dec 1 2023, 08:16 PM) I've said this before. Malaysia should had followed what Singapore did - Introduce COE . Zero fuel subsidy in Singapore. Yes its cruel, but thats how Singapore control its car population in the country. Can't afford COE, means cant afford a car. However their bus and MRT is fabulous. Buses are on time unlike our RapidKL "Guess what time they arrive" . Here - Zero downpayment and 9 years car loan. Any tomdick and harry without salary slip, can be kawtim. Thats how bad our citizens are pampered. So what stopping them from making public transport system as fabulous as Singapore's ?
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Roman Catholic
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Oct 20 2024, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Dec 2 2023, 03:37 PM) https://mier.org.my/rafizi-govt-to-roll-out...0subsidy%20card. IF I decipher this correctly, government may just do take away all if not a big portion of the subsidy and provide subsidy car only to targeted group. So my take is subsidy card will be issued like how they issue diesel subsidy car to fisherman....To whomever they deemed still need help Wait till the targeted group slowly becomes the forgotten group from the kaki kuat kencing. 🤣🤣🤣
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ayamxxx
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Oct 21 2024, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Oct 19 2024, 12:34 AM) https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/a...a-s-budget-2025Datuk Seri Anwar on Oct 18 said that the government will remove fuel subsidies for RON 95, a heavily subsidised petrol, by the middle of 2025. Lets assume the price of Ron 95 are at rm2.76, my car will need additional rm34 per full tank (rm100 full tank now). Based on last time, its not the fuel price that just taking hit to us, its the others dominos effect, everything will price up. Foresee nasi lemak basic at roadside will sell at rm7-8 later.
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TSEnergyAnalyst
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Nov 6 2024, 01:40 AM
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Mid 2025 Ron 95 next
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littlefire
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Nov 6 2024, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 21 2024, 05:40 PM) Lets assume the price of Ron 95 are at rm2.76, my car will need additional rm34 per full tank (rm100 full tank now). Based on last time, its not the fuel price that just taking hit to us, its the others dominos effect, everything will price up. Foresee nasi lemak basic at roadside will sell at rm7-8 later. Well, why our neighbour country (Thailand/Indonesia) can still survive, sell cheap food even their fuel price are higher than us?
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TSEnergyAnalyst
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Nov 6 2024, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Nov 6 2024, 09:27 AM) Well, why our neighbour country (Thailand/Indonesia) can still survive, sell cheap food even their fuel price are higher than us? Because they smuggle our cheap and subsidized fuel, etc.? 😂
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littlefire
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Nov 6 2024, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 6 2024, 11:46 AM) Because they smuggle our cheap and subsidized fuel, etc.? 😂 If nearboring border maybe yes, but overall country still cheaper than us.
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TSEnergyAnalyst
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Nov 6 2024, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Nov 6 2024, 10:48 AM) If nearboring border maybe yes, but overall country still cheaper than us. How about because Malaysian like to contribute to their country? https://www.bernama.com/en/news.php?id=2359848
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tomato people
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Nov 6 2024, 11:09 AM
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Cut here...add somewhere....business as usual
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littlefire
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Nov 6 2024, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 6 2024, 11:59 AM) How about because Malaysian like to contribute to their country? https://www.bernama.com/en/news.php?id=2359848They are cheap at first somemore more "freedom", that why most Malaysian like to visit them. This post has been edited by littlefire: Nov 6 2024, 11:13 AM
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ayamxxx
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Nov 6 2024, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Nov 6 2024, 10:48 AM) If nearboring border maybe yes, but overall country still cheaper than us. Because they are agriculture country or agriculture as main economy driver. So that end up the food in particular cheaper by a lot vs us who I believe need to do some import. Especially the basic as flour, rice, sugar.
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ayamxxx
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Nov 6 2024, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(tomato people @ Nov 6 2024, 11:09 AM) Cut here...add somewhere....business as usual Put more newer tax, cut some area subsidy for the sake of not implementing the GST. Scared for backlash from big player behind PH?
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TSEnergyAnalyst
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Nov 6 2024, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Nov 6 2024, 11:13 AM) Yeah Amazing Thailand
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V3000
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Nov 6 2024, 01:29 PM
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Alhamdulilah kito dapat tongkat - Hidup BMX!
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TSEnergyAnalyst
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Nov 7 2024, 08:08 PM
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https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/733005Drum rolling..... Ladies and Gentlemen, introducing 2-tier pricing » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Targeted RON95 subsidy to be implemented via two-tier pricing to curb inflation — Rafizi By Choy Nyen Yiau / theedgemalaysia.com 06 Nov 2024, 09:28 pm
KUALA LUMPUR (Nov 6): The government has decided to implement a two-tier pricing mechanism for the targeted RON95 petrol subsidy, Economy Minister Rafizi Ramli told Parliament on Wednesday.
Rafizi said this mechanism poses less risk to potential inflation compared to the cash transfer method, which is currently used by the government to subsidise eligible recipients of diesel-powered vehicles.
"The government's priority is to ensure inflation remains under control. If we used the cash transfer method, where the retail price of RON95 would fluctuate with the market, there is a risk that traders may use this as an excuse to increase prices of goods," the minister said during his winding-up speech on Budget 2025.
Under the two-tier pricing mechanism, the subsidised price for RON95 will be displayed at retail stations for eligible recipients, while those not eligible will have to pay the market price, Rafizi said.
"The mechanism is currently being refined by the Economy Ministry, which will handle backend verification of eligible recipients, while the Finance Ministry will manage the frontend operations at retail stations," he said.
When tabling Budget 2025, Prime Minister and Finance Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim announced that the targeted subsidy for RON95 petrol will be implemented mid-next year.
Anwar had stressed that the government will continue providing subsidies for 85% of Malaysians. This will mean that the top 15% of earners (T15) and foreigners will pay the market rate for RON95 petrol.
Rafizi said the government will use net disposable income, rather than household income, in identifying the T15 group, as this provides a fairer assessment.
"The Economy Ministry and Finance Ministry are finalising details of the T15 group, which will be presented to the Cabinet for approval before being announced to the public," he said.
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