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Rafizi confirms new RON95 subsidy programme will be announced next year to address inequity
This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Dec 4 2023, 09:02 AM
Fuel Subsidy CUT: diesel and then RON95, A lot of talk but will we walk the walk?
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Dec 1 2023, 04:17 PM, updated 4h ago
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This seems to come on and off. Here is the latest notice.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...inequity/104433 QUOTE Rafizi confirms new RON95 subsidy programme will be announced next year to address inequity This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Dec 4 2023, 09:02 AM |
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Dec 1 2023, 04:41 PM
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sure will implement, but next GE tukar gomen lagi then u-turn lagi daniel_lyw liked this post
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Dec 1 2023, 05:02 PM
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U take away subsidy. U need to put back to make free toll highway and car tax. U cant have both.
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Dec 1 2023, 05:19 PM
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Dec 1 2023, 05:22 PM
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The issues is how do they define the T20? I was told as long household income is over 12k per mth, then will be defined as T20, if there is true, pls ask rubbishzi to come Bukit Bintang after he implement his stupid policy, see how would ppl spit on his face.
Any couple who work in Klang valley can easily earn over 12k a mth, but a household with 12k is still consider poor in Klang valley as we need to pay for inflated groceries, house loan, and education fees. |
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Dec 1 2023, 05:25 PM
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So in conclusion, mat rampit no need to work so hard as long they are above 18 years old as voter, and should be entitled to pump cheap petrol with T20 tax payers money, for them to continue be superman on highway. It is SUBSIDIZED by rubbishzi. Even wan to lick their balls for vote also lick in nicer way la pls This post has been edited by Jingle91: Dec 1 2023, 05:27 PM mango27 and RalphRatedR liked this post
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Dec 1 2023, 06:17 PM
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How would they differentiate T20 from the B/M40 at petrol stations?
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Dec 1 2023, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Dec 1 2023, 05:25 PM) So in conclusion, mat rampit no need to work so hard as long they are above 18 years old as voter, and should be entitled to pump cheap petrol with T20 tax payers money, for them to continue be superman on highway. It is SUBSIDIZED by rubbishzi. Mat rempit have no intention to work hard. They are born this way.Even wan to lick their balls for vote also lick in nicer way la pls 4WD_er and RalphRatedR liked this post
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Dec 1 2023, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(qsub @ Dec 1 2023, 05:02 PM) A lot of angry T20 but the government wants to win mainly the B40 Group vote because they are predominant in this country. SleeplessEyes liked this post
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Dec 1 2023, 06:23 PM
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The government should consider eliminating all fuel subsidies altogether, rather than implementing selective subsidies for specific groups of people. The current subsidy system encourages private transport ownership, but if redirected wisely, the funds saved from these subsidies could be invested in enhancing public transportation infrastructure. babisotong, RalphRatedR, and 1 other liked this post
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Dec 1 2023, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Dec 1 2023, 06:23 PM) The government should consider eliminating all fuel subsidies altogether, rather than implementing selective subsidies for specific groups of people. The current subsidy system encourages private transport ownership, but if redirected wisely, the funds saved from these subsidies could be invested in enhancing public transportation infrastructure. I've said this before. Malaysia should had followed what Singapore did - Introduce COE . Zero fuel subsidy in Singapore. Yes its cruel, but thats how Singapore control its car population in the country. Can't afford COE, means cant afford a car. However their bus and MRT is fabulous. Buses are on time unlike our RapidKL "Guess what time they arrive" . Here - Zero downpayment and 9 years car loan. Any tomdick and harry without salary slip, can be kawtim. Thats how bad our citizens are pampered. Mysagavvt and RalphRatedR liked this post
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Dec 1 2023, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Dec 1 2023, 05:22 PM) The issues is how do they define the T20? I was told as long household income is over 12k per mth, then will be defined as T20, if there is true, pls ask rubbishzi to come Bukit Bintang after he implement his stupid policy, see how would ppl spit on his face. Lower than 12k, bro.Any couple who work in Klang valley can easily earn over 12k a mth, but a household with 12k is still consider poor in Klang valley as we need to pay for inflated groceries, house loan, and education fees. QUOTE The T20 is defined by the Department of Statistics as a household with a combined income of at least RM10,960 a month. Data in 2020 showed that the median income of households in Malaysia is RM5,209 while the mean is RM7,089. The mean income of households in the Federal Territories of Putrajaya and Kuala Lumpur exceeded the T20 bracket (RM12,322 and RM11,720 respectively). https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...inequity/104433 |
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Dec 2 2023, 04:31 AM
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QUOTE(pcdoctor_my @ Dec 1 2023, 08:16 PM) I've said this before. COE was designed to limit the number of passenger cars.Malaysia should had followed what Singapore did - Introduce COE . Zero fuel subsidy in Singapore. Yes its cruel, but thats how Singapore control its car population in the country. Can't afford COE, means cant afford a car. However their bus and MRT is fabulous. Buses are on time unlike our RapidKL "Guess what time they arrive" . Here - Zero downpayment and 9 years car loan. Any tomdick and harry without salary slip, can be kawtim. Thats how bad our citizens are pampered. It will not work so well in Malaysia because much of the government's income revenue derives from sales of passenger vehicles (Estimated to be around RM 2 Billion+-). pcdoctor_my liked this post
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Dec 2 2023, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Dec 1 2023, 04:41 PM) we had no choice , tukar here tukar there will be the same Mysagavvt liked this post
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Dec 2 2023, 10:57 AM
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and b40s continue to be parasites without tax contribution
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Dec 2 2023, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(pcdoctor_my @ Dec 1 2023, 08:16 PM) I've said this before. You come to rural area and take bus or mrt!Malaysia should had followed what Singapore did - Introduce COE . Zero fuel subsidy in Singapore. Yes its cruel, but thats how Singapore control its car population in the country. Can't afford COE, means cant afford a car. However their bus and MRT is fabulous. Buses are on time unlike our RapidKL "Guess what time they arrive" . Here - Zero downpayment and 9 years car loan. Any tomdick and harry without salary slip, can be kawtim. Thats how bad our citizens are pampered. You think whole Malaysia is like Singapore or KL, got good public transport? Don’t make transportation decisions from metropolitan perspective ! |
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To me, if want to take away subsidy, take all away.. Don't just subsidize a certain segment of the society. Icehart, RalphRatedR, and 3 others liked this post
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Dec 2 2023, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Dec 2 2023, 11:29 AM) To me, if want to take away subsidy, take all away.. agreed, too bad they will never do it out of political reasonsDon't just subsidize a certain segment of the society. Mysagavvt liked this post
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Dec 2 2023, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Dec 2 2023, 11:29 AM) To me, if want to take away subsidy, take all away.. Don't just subsidize a certain segment of the society. QUOTE(bigduck @ Dec 2 2023, 02:41 PM) https://mier.org.my/rafizi-govt-to-roll-out...0subsidy%20card.IF I decipher this correctly, government may just do take away all if not a big portion of the subsidy and provide subsidy car only to targeted group. QUOTE The programme will be implemented using three mechanisms, which are based on individual net disposable income, net disposable household income through social protection or assistance schemes, as well as a combination of household and individual earnings, which will be implemented using a subsidy card. So my take is subsidy card will be issued like how they issue diesel subsidy car to fisherman....To whomever they deemed still need help |
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Dec 2 2023, 03:37 PM) https://mier.org.my/rafizi-govt-to-roll-out...0subsidy%20card. They should just remove all. IF I decipher this correctly, government may just do take away all if not a big portion of the subsidy and provide subsidy car only to targeted group. So my take is subsidy card will be issued like how they issue diesel subsidy car to fisherman....To whomever they deemed still need help Then no need the administration headache to implement, monitor and enforce. Better way to use that manpower on something more productive. RalphRatedR and Mysagavvt liked this post
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