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Chat Can't speak malay during renew passport and idk ft, K come judge
Chat Can't speak malay during renew passport and idk ft, K come judge
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Dec 1 2023, 03:16 AM
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Marehsial
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Dec 1 2023, 03:56 AM
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QUOTE(PerfectZero @ Nov 30 2023, 08:28 PM) I can see where are you coming from and you are correct. But you are bound to be treated that way if you don't speaks the language of the passport you are holding. Rude behavior from civil servant expected but still doesn't mean she deserves to be treated like so |
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Dec 1 2023, 04:51 AM
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The officer is an idiot! But to not know malay as a Malaysian is shameful!
Come in! Even Bangla can learn some Malay in a few months being in Malaysia. Imagine an Angmo born in China complaining that they donāt want to entertain him in English in his country. Sounds stupid right? |
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Dec 1 2023, 05:37 AM
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QUOTE(wasime @ Nov 30 2023, 02:45 PM) I was insulted once again in my life by doing passportš„ŗ Are you copying this somewhere and google translate or chatgpt?š¢Today I want to share with you how miserable it is for people who cannot speak Malay in Malaysiaš This is the second time I was insulted in UTC Johor! Last time it was me who was insulted, this time it was my daughter, both in the same place! Today I took my daughter to UTC Johor (Polow branch) to renew her passport. We are both Malaysian citizens, but we have been studying in Singapore since childhood (my daughter and I are the same), so we are not very fluent in Malay, but we are educated and polite. And respect still understands! First of all, I got there around 8 o'clock. I had to sit outside and wait before I went in to get the number. I waited for about an hour before I could go in and get the number. We arrived around 9 o'clock. I happily went in and queued up to get the number, and then we arrived. , there was a man serving us at the service desk. Because I really donāt speak Malay very well, I might ask in English when I opened my mouth. The male service staff asked me how old my daughter was? My daughter answered him: 14 years old (answered in English). He looked at my daughter and said: "How do you say 14 years old in Malay? He told my daughter to speak Malay! This is Malaysia, are you a Malaysian? You are Malaysian People must speak Malay!" His tone was very fierce, and then he continued to talk about me and my daughter: "Do you know this is Malaysia? You don't know Malay? It is very important to speak Malay when going abroad to Taiwan (I was suddenly very scaredš°), You still canāt speak it? Are you a PR? PR or a Malaysian citizen. You canāt speak Malay with a Malaysian IC. If you canāt speak Malay, you can consider becoming a Singaporean citizen! Not in Malaysia! English is not spoken here!ā (I tried to explain: Sorry abang, we studied in Singapore since we were young, so we really donāt understand... Before he finished speaking, he started to curse again: And then? Do you still want to do it? If you donāt want to do it, you can leave immediately. !š„I was really helpless at the moment, but I held it inš„tears were about to flow outš£) We, mother and daughter, stood there and scolded him stupidly... We didnāt dare to contradict him because we were afraid that getting up so early would be a waste of time. time, and then I said to him in a low voice: Sorry, we really have to renew our passports. Can you give me your number? He had a very unhappy face and gave me his number with a very unhappy attitude. . We found a seat awkwardly and sat downš I'm wondering why you bully people like this? Do we deserve to be insulted like this because we donāt know Malay? Will he be caught by the police? This is the second time I have been to this UTC and I was scolded for not speaking Malay! After waiting for about 30 minutes, we finally arrived, and what followed was another wonderful momentš There was a woman at the counter, and she thought she was more polite. As a result, my daughter was taught Malay. She also told her how old she was, her name, her motherās name, and her fatherās name in Malay. Since my daughter was very young, I She and her father were divorced, so I told the counter girl: Sorry, I am divorced, so my daughter has been with me since she was a child. I donāt know her fatherās nameš¤·š»āāļøā¦Iām sorry! Then came the problemš The woman asked me: Do you have the divorce certificate? Is the child with you? So is there proof of child custody? (Suddenly I was even more annoyedšØ) I asked her: "Do I need these when I come to renew my passport? But why didn't I need these when I helped my daughter make a passport for the first time last time? Then when I asked what materials I needed to prepare, why didn't I say yes? Divorce certificate and custody certificate? In the end, she only answered me: Now the SOP has changed, these documents are needed!š£ I didnāt argue with her, after all, I donāt know Malayš I said I was sorry that I didnāt bring it, and she said directly: I didnāt bring it. ?Canāt do it! (I feel really fucking helpless in my heart) She didnāt let us do it, so we left helplessly) I really donāt understand why these people are so discriminatory towards us who donāt speak Malay! I didnāt mean it, I didnāt make things difficult, and I asked politely, but as a result, I was bullied for my kindness! ā¼ ļøRemind everyone who does not speak Malay to go to such a place to find someone who can speak Malay to accompany you! Don't let these people ruin the mood of a beautiful day like ours 7 a.m. 8 a.m.ā¼ ļøReally disappointed and sadš«š«š« Ending: In the end, I found a friend for help (someone who knew the department) and finally succeeded in getting the passportāš»I also bought a bag of rice for him to eat and thanked him for his helpš„¹ So what is the so-called need for a divorce certificate and custody certificate? They are just making things difficult for us and not letting us do it! There are so many people in the world who fart! Wait until God takes you! My English is bad enough, this writing English is worse than me though Bossku_Johor liked this post
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Dec 1 2023, 05:45 AM
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Nov 30 2023, 03:00 PM) I kinda disagree, my privileges as a Malaysian are not determined by whether I know BM or not, if I am a citizen, then I should be able to get a passport, an IC, etc. is passport/IC eligibility based on mastery of BM or based on citizenship/PR status?)Do IRB tax me based on my knowledge of BM (no because the tax laws are not made like that, same argument - is passport/IC eligibility based on mastery of BM or based on citizenship/PR status?)? If govt can tax me, then govt should provide services due to me as a taxpayer and citizen. The answer is YES for citizenship application by PR or Foreigner that applying Malaysia citizen , one of requirements: can converse and understand Malay Youāre born and raised in malaysia by biological Malaysian parent, so you have so called āPrivilegeā even though you canāt speak Malay |
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Dec 1 2023, 08:25 AM
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TS, i am sympathetic to your situation but my sincere advise is perhaps to attend Bahasa Malaysia speaking courses
as long as you want to hold a Malaysian Ic/Passport and don't speak the language, you're going to face such problems and worse in future and just to digfrss, if the situation was a USA citizen wanting to renew the passport but can't speak English cos he was educated in Mexico as a child and grew up his adulthood in Mexico, the USA citizen would face similar situations as you or worse not judging but merely suggesting a long term solution for you and your child and the immigration officer was just following the rules when she asked for the detail document such as divorce papers they need to be sure everything is in order cos a lapse could have happened when the passport was issued so each renewal must also follow the protocol you're a good man to take care of a child that is not biological related to you |
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Dec 1 2023, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Dec 1 2023, 08:25 AM) TS, i am sympathetic to your situation but my sincere advise is perhaps to attend Bahasa Malaysia speaking courses That's where you are horribly wrong, TS is a racist son of a bitch who enjoy and act smug when nons are troubled by overhanded Sharia fuckery.as long as you want to hold a Malaysian Ic/Passport and don't speak the language, you're going to face such problems and worse in future and just to digfrss, if the situation was a USA citizen wanting to renew the passport but can't speak English cos he was educated in Mexico as a child and grew up his adulthood in Mexico, the USA citizen would face similar situations as you or worse not judging but merely suggesting a long term solution for you and your child and the immigration officer was just following the rules when she asked for the detail document such as divorce papers they need to be sure everything is in order cos a lapse could have happened when the passport was issued so each renewal must also follow the protocol you're a good man to take care of a child that is not biological related to you Look at his post history, look at the bigotry crap it spewed. this fucker just blatantly stole story from Facebook and pretended as its own This post has been edited by overlimit: Dec 1 2023, 10:21 AM |
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Dec 1 2023, 10:21 AM
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Ban ts bodo
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Dec 1 2023, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(wasime @ Nov 30 2023, 01:45 PM) I was insulted once again in my life by doing passportš„ŗ Lol stay malaysia dunno malayš¢Today I want to share with you how miserable it is for people who cannot speak Malay in Malaysiaš This is the second time I was insulted in UTC Johor! Last time it was me who was insulted, this time it was my daughter, both in the same place! Today I took my daughter to UTC Johor (Polow branch) to renew her passport. We are both Malaysian citizens, but we have been studying in Singapore since childhood (my daughter and I are the same), so we are not very fluent in Malay, but we are educated and polite. And respect still understands! First of all, I got there around 8 o'clock. I had to sit outside and wait before I went in to get the number. I waited for about an hour before I could go in and get the number. We arrived around 9 o'clock. I happily went in and queued up to get the number, and then we arrived. , there was a man serving us at the service desk. Because I really donāt speak Malay very well, I might ask in English when I opened my mouth. The male service staff asked me how old my daughter was? My daughter answered him: 14 years old (answered in English). He looked at my daughter and said: "How do you say 14 years old in Malay? He told my daughter to speak Malay! This is Malaysia, are you a Malaysian? You are Malaysian People must speak Malay!" His tone was very fierce, and then he continued to talk about me and my daughter: "Do you know this is Malaysia? You don't know Malay? It is very important to speak Malay when going abroad to Taiwan (I was suddenly very scaredš°), You still canāt speak it? Are you a PR? PR or a Malaysian citizen. You canāt speak Malay with a Malaysian IC. If you canāt speak Malay, you can consider becoming a Singaporean citizen! Not in Malaysia! English is not spoken here!ā (I tried to explain: Sorry abang, we studied in Singapore since we were young, so we really donāt understand... Before he finished speaking, he started to curse again: And then? Do you still want to do it? If you donāt want to do it, you can leave immediately. !š„I was really helpless at the moment, but I held it inš„tears were about to flow outš£) We, mother and daughter, stood there and scolded him stupidly... We didnāt dare to contradict him because we were afraid that getting up so early would be a waste of time. time, and then I said to him in a low voice: Sorry, we really have to renew our passports. Can you give me your number? He had a very unhappy face and gave me his number with a very unhappy attitude. . We found a seat awkwardly and sat downš I'm wondering why you bully people like this? Do we deserve to be insulted like this because we donāt know Malay? Will he be caught by the police? This is the second time I have been to this UTC and I was scolded for not speaking Malay! After waiting for about 30 minutes, we finally arrived, and what followed was another wonderful momentš There was a woman at the counter, and she thought she was more polite. As a result, my daughter was taught Malay. She also told her how old she was, her name, her motherās name, and her fatherās name in Malay. Since my daughter was very young, I She and her father were divorced, so I told the counter girl: Sorry, I am divorced, so my daughter has been with me since she was a child. I donāt know her fatherās nameš¤·š»āāļøā¦Iām sorry! Then came the problemš The woman asked me: Do you have the divorce certificate? Is the child with you? So is there proof of child custody? (Suddenly I was even more annoyedšØ) I asked her: "Do I need these when I come to renew my passport? But why didn't I need these when I helped my daughter make a passport for the first time last time? Then when I asked what materials I needed to prepare, why didn't I say yes? Divorce certificate and custody certificate? In the end, she only answered me: Now the SOP has changed, these documents are needed!š£ I didnāt argue with her, after all, I donāt know Malayš I said I was sorry that I didnāt bring it, and she said directly: I didnāt bring it. ?Canāt do it! (I feel really fucking helpless in my heart) She didnāt let us do it, so we left helplessly) I really donāt understand why these people are so discriminatory towards us who donāt speak Malay! I didnāt mean it, I didnāt make things difficult, and I asked politely, but as a result, I was bullied for my kindness! ā¼ ļøRemind everyone who does not speak Malay to go to such a place to find someone who can speak Malay to accompany you! Don't let these people ruin the mood of a beautiful day like ours 7 a.m. 8 a.m.ā¼ ļøReally disappointed and sadš«š«š« Ending: In the end, I found a friend for help (someone who knew the department) and finally succeeded in getting the passportāš»I also bought a bag of rice for him to eat and thanked him for his helpš„¹ So what is the so-called need for a divorce certificate and custody certificate? They are just making things difficult for us and not letting us do it! There are so many people in the world who fart! Wait until God takes you! Might as well migrate sg je |
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Dec 1 2023, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(overlimit @ Dec 1 2023, 10:20 AM) That's where you are horribly wrong, TS is a racist son of a bitch who enjoy and act smug when nons are troubled by overhanded Sharia fuckery. What the fuck wrong with youLook at his post history, look at the bigotry crap it spewed. this fucker just blatantly stole story from Facebook and pretended as its own |
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Dec 1 2023, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(overlimit @ Dec 1 2023, 03:56 AM) Whether you like it or not. This is Malaysia, civil servants are the king here. It's either change yourself or change your environment. Don't expect the them to change for you. |
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Dec 1 2023, 05:38 PM
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google translate kan ade
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Dec 1 2023, 05:42 PM
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AA ex ceo how ar.. He is Malaysian but cannot speak Malay.
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Dec 1 2023, 06:20 PM
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Dec 2 2023, 01:48 PM
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Dec 5 2023, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Dec 1 2023, 12:02 AM) Hanya orang yang mempunyai otak taliban fikir benang basah kalau tak boleh cakap BM. It's just a fucking language, stop gatekeeping on how to be Malaysian bodo QUOTE Generational trauma from decades of discrimination and unfair policies led by a Malay-majority gov (UMNO) is not something to overlook. I can't count the no. of times I've met uncles and aunties who want nothing to do with anything Malay because experiences such as May 13th. 2/6 So what does someone who has been mistreated/ignored/judged/attacked/discriminated against do? In a country like Malaysia, where racial privilege is very real and retaliation is not really in the cards of the minorities, they retreat into the safety of their own spaces. 3/6 Generational trauma like this is not easy to heal from, and ministers who fail to understand this, but rather double down without empathy, is part of the problem. Of course, the current gen has it in their cards to step up and move on, but it's not an overnight thing. 4/6 Some aren't fluent because of a lack of access to learning. Some simply choose to disengage simply because they don't see a future for themselves here. Regardless, no one should be mistreated for the languages they speak. Yelling at them about it isn't the answer either. 5/6 As usual, everything is so intertwined here that no single solution will solve this, and this is a mere symptom of the larger issues. When š²š¾ becomes a country where unity is built on acceptance rather than tolerance, perhaps we may see a way out of this mess. 6/6 |
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Dec 5 2023, 05:34 PM
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Dec 5 2023, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Nov 30 2023, 01:50 PM) I hope aunty improves, Malaysians should know malay full stop Malay so easy to learn also tabuleh. Look at TS. Arab who improved his malay from pigdin to above rempit It's doable. Take TS as an inspiration I see nepali guard also can learn. Apa singkie education ni? I thought they have BM in their schools also. |
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Dec 5 2023, 06:08 PM
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then can speak BM fluently dapat beli bumi lot? bumi loan? bumi rights?
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Dec 5 2023, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Dec 5 2023, 05:37 PM) Malay so easy to learn also tabuleh. In Singkapoh, the students can choose either mandarin or malay as the second language.I see nepali guard also can learn. Apa singkie education ni? I thought they have BM in their schools also. Sure Mandarin is better choice la.. even the Maleis are sending their children to study in chinese school. |
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