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post Dec 1 2023, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(PerfectZero @ Nov 30 2023, 08:28 PM)
I can see where are you coming from and you are correct. But you are bound to be treated that way if you don't speaks the language of the passport you are holding.
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Rude behavior from civil servant expected but still doesn't mean she deserves to be treated like so
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post Dec 1 2023, 04:51 AM

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The officer is an idiot! But to not know malay as a Malaysian is shameful!

Come in! Even Bangla can learn some Malay in a few months being in Malaysia.

Imagine an Angmo born in China complaining that they don’t want to entertain him in English in his country. Sounds stupid right?
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QUOTE(wasime @ Nov 30 2023, 02:45 PM)
I was insulted once again in my life by doing passport🄺

šŸ“¢Today I want to share with you how miserable it is for people who cannot speak Malay in Malaysia😭 This is the second time I was insulted in UTC Johor!  Last time it was me who was insulted, this time it was my daughter, both in the same place!

Today I took my daughter to UTC Johor (Polow branch) to renew her passport. We are both Malaysian citizens, but we have been studying in Singapore since childhood (my daughter and I are the same), so we are not very fluent in Malay, but we are educated and polite.  And respect still understands!  First of all, I got there around 8 o'clock. I had to sit outside and wait before I went in to get the number. I waited for about an hour before I could go in and get the number. We arrived around 9 o'clock. I happily went in and queued up to get the number, and then we arrived.  , there was a man serving us at the service desk. Because I really don’t speak Malay very well, I might ask in English when I opened my mouth. The male service staff asked me how old my daughter was?  My daughter answered him: 14 years old (answered in English). He looked at my daughter and said: "How do you say 14 years old in Malay? He told my daughter to speak Malay! This is Malaysia, are you a Malaysian? You are Malaysian  People must speak Malay!" His tone was very fierce, and then he continued to talk about me and my daughter: "Do you know this is Malaysia? You don't know Malay? It is very important to speak Malay when going abroad to Taiwan (I was suddenly very scared😰),  You still can’t speak it? Are you a PR? PR or a Malaysian citizen. You can’t speak Malay with a Malaysian IC. If you can’t speak Malay, you can consider becoming a Singaporean citizen! Not in Malaysia! English is not spoken here!ā€  (I tried to explain: Sorry abang, we studied in Singapore since we were young, so we really don’t understand... Before he finished speaking, he started to curse again: And then? Do you still want to do it? If you don’t want to do it, you can leave immediately.  !😄I was really helpless at the moment, but I held it in😄tears were about to flow out😣) We, mother and daughter, stood there and scolded him stupidly... We didn’t dare to contradict him because we were afraid that getting up so early would be a waste of time.  time, and then I said to him in a low voice: Sorry, we really have to renew our passports. Can you give me your number?  He had a very unhappy face and gave me his number with a very unhappy attitude.  .  We found a seat awkwardly and sat down😟

I'm wondering why you bully people like this?  Do we deserve to be insulted like this because we don’t know Malay?  Will he be caught by the police?  This is the second time I have been to this UTC and I was scolded for not speaking Malay!

After waiting for about 30 minutes, we finally arrived, and what followed was another wonderful momentšŸ˜„

There was a woman at the counter, and she thought she was more polite. As a result, my daughter was taught Malay. She also told her how old she was, her name, her mother’s name, and her father’s name in Malay. Since my daughter was very young, I  She and her father were divorced, so I told the counter girl: Sorry, I am divorced, so my daughter has been with me since she was a child. I don’t know her father’s namešŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøā€¦I’m sorry!  Then came the problemšŸ˜…The woman asked me: Do you have the divorce certificate?  Is the child with you?  So is there proof of child custody?  (Suddenly I was even more annoyed😨) I asked her: "Do I need these when I come to renew my passport? But why didn't I need these when I helped my daughter make a passport for the first time last time? Then when I asked what materials I needed to prepare, why didn't I say yes?  Divorce certificate and custody certificate? In the end, she only answered me: Now the SOP has changed, these documents are needed!😣 I didn’t argue with her, after all, I don’t know Malay😭 I said I was sorry that I didn’t bring it, and she said directly: I didn’t bring it.  ?Can’t do it! (I feel really fucking helpless in my heart) She didn’t let us do it, so we left helplessly)

I really don’t understand why these people are so discriminatory towards us who don’t speak Malay!  I didn’t mean it, I didn’t make things difficult, and I asked politely, but as a result, I was bullied for my kindness!

‼  ļøRemind everyone who does not speak Malay to go to such a place to find someone who can speak Malay to accompany you!  Don't let these people ruin the mood of a beautiful day like ours 7 a.m. 8 a.m.‼  ļøReally disappointed and sad😫😫😫

Ending: In the end, I found a friend for help (someone who knew the department) and finally succeeded in getting the passportāœŒšŸ»I also bought a bag of rice for him to eat and thanked him for his help🄹 So what is the so-called need for a divorce certificate and custody certificate?  They are just making things difficult for us and not letting us do it!  There are so many people in the world who fart!  Wait until God takes you!
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Are you copying this somewhere and google translate or chatgpt?

My English is bad enough, this writing English is worse than me though
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post Dec 1 2023, 05:45 AM

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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Nov 30 2023, 03:00 PM)
I kinda disagree, my privileges as a Malaysian are not determined by whether I know BM or not, if I am a citizen, then I should be able to get a passport, an IC, etc.

Do IRB tax me based on my knowledge of BM (no because the tax laws are not made like that, same argument - is passport/IC eligibility based on mastery of BM or based on citizenship/PR status?)? If govt can tax me, then govt should provide services due to me as a taxpayer and citizen.
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is passport/IC eligibility based on mastery of BM or based on citizenship/PR status?)
The answer is YES for citizenship application by PR or Foreigner

that applying Malaysia citizen , one of requirements: can converse and understand Malay

You’re born and raised in malaysia by biological Malaysian parent, so you have so called ā€œPrivilegeā€ even though you can’t speak Malay
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post Dec 1 2023, 08:25 AM

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TS, i am sympathetic to your situation but my sincere advise is perhaps to attend Bahasa Malaysia speaking courses

as long as you want to hold a Malaysian Ic/Passport and don't speak the language, you're going to face such problems and worse in future

and just to digfrss, if the situation was a USA citizen wanting to renew the passport but can't speak English cos he was educated in Mexico as a child and grew up his adulthood in Mexico, the USA citizen would face similar situations as you or worse

not judging but merely suggesting a long term solution for you and your child

and the immigration officer was just following the rules when she asked for the detail document such as divorce papers

they need to be sure everything is in order cos a lapse could have happened when the passport was issued so each renewal must also follow the protocol

you're a good man to take care of a child that is not biological related to you


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post Dec 1 2023, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Dec 1 2023, 08:25 AM)
TS, i am sympathetic to your situation but my sincere advise is perhaps to attend Bahasa Malaysia speaking courses

as long as you want to hold a Malaysian Ic/Passport and don't speak the language, you're going to face such problems and worse in future

and just to digfrss, if the situation was a USA citizen wanting to renew the passport but can't speak English cos he was educated in Mexico as a child and grew up his adulthood in Mexico, the USA citizen would face similar situations as you or worse

not judging but merely suggesting a long term solution for you and your child

and the immigration officer was just following the rules when she asked for the detail document such as divorce papers

they need to be sure everything is in order cos a lapse could have happened when the passport was issued so each renewal must also follow the protocol

you're a good man to take care of a child that is not biological related to you
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That's where you are horribly wrong, TS is a racist son of a bitch who enjoy and act smug when nons are troubled by overhanded Sharia fuckery.

Look at his post history, look at the bigotry crap it spewed.
this fucker just blatantly stole story from Facebook and pretended as its own

This post has been edited by overlimit: Dec 1 2023, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(wasime @ Nov 30 2023, 01:45 PM)
I was insulted once again in my life by doing passport🄺

šŸ“¢Today I want to share with you how miserable it is for people who cannot speak Malay in Malaysia😭 This is the second time I was insulted in UTC Johor!  Last time it was me who was insulted, this time it was my daughter, both in the same place!

Today I took my daughter to UTC Johor (Polow branch) to renew her passport. We are both Malaysian citizens, but we have been studying in Singapore since childhood (my daughter and I are the same), so we are not very fluent in Malay, but we are educated and polite.  And respect still understands!  First of all, I got there around 8 o'clock. I had to sit outside and wait before I went in to get the number. I waited for about an hour before I could go in and get the number. We arrived around 9 o'clock. I happily went in and queued up to get the number, and then we arrived.  , there was a man serving us at the service desk. Because I really don’t speak Malay very well, I might ask in English when I opened my mouth. The male service staff asked me how old my daughter was?  My daughter answered him: 14 years old (answered in English). He looked at my daughter and said: "How do you say 14 years old in Malay? He told my daughter to speak Malay! This is Malaysia, are you a Malaysian? You are Malaysian  People must speak Malay!" His tone was very fierce, and then he continued to talk about me and my daughter: "Do you know this is Malaysia? You don't know Malay? It is very important to speak Malay when going abroad to Taiwan (I was suddenly very scared😰),  You still can’t speak it? Are you a PR? PR or a Malaysian citizen. You can’t speak Malay with a Malaysian IC. If you can’t speak Malay, you can consider becoming a Singaporean citizen! Not in Malaysia! English is not spoken here!ā€  (I tried to explain: Sorry abang, we studied in Singapore since we were young, so we really don’t understand... Before he finished speaking, he started to curse again: And then? Do you still want to do it? If you don’t want to do it, you can leave immediately.  !😄I was really helpless at the moment, but I held it in😄tears were about to flow out😣) We, mother and daughter, stood there and scolded him stupidly... We didn’t dare to contradict him because we were afraid that getting up so early would be a waste of time.  time, and then I said to him in a low voice: Sorry, we really have to renew our passports. Can you give me your number?  He had a very unhappy face and gave me his number with a very unhappy attitude.  .  We found a seat awkwardly and sat down😟

I'm wondering why you bully people like this?  Do we deserve to be insulted like this because we don’t know Malay?  Will he be caught by the police?  This is the second time I have been to this UTC and I was scolded for not speaking Malay!

After waiting for about 30 minutes, we finally arrived, and what followed was another wonderful momentšŸ˜„

There was a woman at the counter, and she thought she was more polite. As a result, my daughter was taught Malay. She also told her how old she was, her name, her mother’s name, and her father’s name in Malay. Since my daughter was very young, I  She and her father were divorced, so I told the counter girl: Sorry, I am divorced, so my daughter has been with me since she was a child. I don’t know her father’s namešŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøā€¦I’m sorry!  Then came the problemšŸ˜…The woman asked me: Do you have the divorce certificate?  Is the child with you?  So is there proof of child custody?  (Suddenly I was even more annoyed😨) I asked her: "Do I need these when I come to renew my passport? But why didn't I need these when I helped my daughter make a passport for the first time last time? Then when I asked what materials I needed to prepare, why didn't I say yes?  Divorce certificate and custody certificate? In the end, she only answered me: Now the SOP has changed, these documents are needed!😣 I didn’t argue with her, after all, I don’t know Malay😭 I said I was sorry that I didn’t bring it, and she said directly: I didn’t bring it.  ?Can’t do it! (I feel really fucking helpless in my heart) She didn’t let us do it, so we left helplessly)

I really don’t understand why these people are so discriminatory towards us who don’t speak Malay!  I didn’t mean it, I didn’t make things difficult, and I asked politely, but as a result, I was bullied for my kindness!

‼  ļøRemind everyone who does not speak Malay to go to such a place to find someone who can speak Malay to accompany you!  Don't let these people ruin the mood of a beautiful day like ours 7 a.m. 8 a.m.‼  ļøReally disappointed and sad😫😫😫

Ending: In the end, I found a friend for help (someone who knew the department) and finally succeeded in getting the passportāœŒšŸ»I also bought a bag of rice for him to eat and thanked him for his help🄹 So what is the so-called need for a divorce certificate and custody certificate?  They are just making things difficult for us and not letting us do it!  There are so many people in the world who fart!  Wait until God takes you!
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Lol stay malaysia dunno malay
Might as well migrate sg je

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QUOTE(overlimit @ Dec 1 2023, 10:20 AM)
That's where you are horribly wrong, TS is a racist son of a bitch who enjoy and act smug when nons are troubled by overhanded Sharia fuckery.

Look at his post history, look at the bigotry crap it spewed.
this fucker just blatantly stole story from Facebook and pretended as its own
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What the fuck wrong with you
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QUOTE(overlimit @ Dec 1 2023, 03:56 AM)
Rude behavior from civil servant expected but still doesn't mean she deserves to be treated  like so
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Whether you like it or not. This is Malaysia, civil servants are the king here. It's either change yourself or change your environment. Don't expect the them to change for you.
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google translate kan ade
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AA ex ceo how ar.. He is Malaysian but cannot speak Malay.
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Dec 1 2023, 05:42 PM)
AA ex ceo how ar.. He is Malaysian but cannot speak Malay.
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He kena like last ketua peguam negaralah

Woi cakap lah bahasa melayu!

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QUOTE(tolongking @ Dec 1 2023, 05:38 PM)
google translate kan ade
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Ini artikel Google translate

Original link is in Chinese
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post Dec 5 2023, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Dec 1 2023, 12:02 AM)
Hanya orang yang mempunyai otak taliban fikir benang basah kalau tak boleh cakap BM.

It's just a fucking language, stop gatekeeping on how to be Malaysian bodo
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Generational trauma from decades of discrimination and unfair policies led by a Malay-majority gov (UMNO) is not something to overlook. I can't count the no. of times I've met uncles and aunties who want nothing to do with anything Malay because experiences such as May 13th. 2/6

So what does someone who has been mistreated/ignored/judged/attacked/discriminated against do? In a country like Malaysia, where racial privilege is very real and retaliation is not really in the cards of the minorities, they retreat into the safety of their own spaces. 3/6

Generational trauma like this is not easy to heal from, and ministers who fail to understand this, but rather double down without empathy, is part of the problem. Of course, the current gen has it in their cards to step up and move on, but it's not an overnight thing. 4/6

Some aren't fluent because of a lack of access to learning. Some simply choose to disengage simply because they don't see a future for themselves here. Regardless, no one should be mistreated for the languages they speak. Yelling at them about it isn't the answer either. 5/6

As usual, everything is so intertwined here that no single solution will solve this, and this is a mere symptom of the larger issues.

When šŸ‡²šŸ‡¾ becomes a country where unity is built on acceptance rather than tolerance, perhaps we may see a way out of this mess. 6/6

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Dec 5 2023, 05:24 PM)
Malaysia is a failed country. Simple as that
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Nov 30 2023, 01:50 PM)
I hope aunty improves, Malaysians should know malay full stop

Look at TS. Arab who improved his malay from pigdin to above rempit

It's doable. Take TS as an inspiration
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Malay so easy to learn also tabuleh.

I see nepali guard also can learn.

Apa singkie education ni? I thought they have BM in their schools also.
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then can speak BM fluently dapat beli bumi lot? bumi loan? bumi rights?

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Dec 5 2023, 05:37 PM)
Malay so easy to learn also tabuleh.

I see nepali guard also can learn.

Apa singkie education ni? I thought they have BM in their schools also.
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In Singkapoh, the students can choose either mandarin or malay as the second language.
Sure Mandarin is better choice la.. even the Maleis are sending their children to study in chinese school.



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