i always thought the deck of card in the shuffler is randomly placed, how the heck calculation work?
Malaysian won $433K in SG casino via Excel formula
Malaysian won $433K in SG casino via Excel formula
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Nov 22 2023, 04:59 PM
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i always thought the deck of card in the shuffler is randomly placed, how the heck calculation work?
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Nov 22 2023, 05:01 PM
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Why casino so small gas, just let people calculate lah. Then you counter with more advanced technique, cilaka what's wrong to calculate max_cavalera liked this post
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Nov 22 2023, 05:03 PM
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Nov 22 2023, 05:04 PM
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Nov 22 2023, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(Prometric @ Nov 22 2023, 04:58 PM) Because you're using technology to count cards. Which is illegal. That's why even go genting they dont allowed you to use phone at gambling table. I remember bacarat got those cards where you can write down who the winner for each round. Same for roulete. So that is ok but using excel is not? |
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Nov 22 2023, 05:04 PM
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i love singapore reporting
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Nov 22 2023, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Nov 22 2023, 04:52 PM) Even I never step foot in casino, I know that there are bunch of cctv aroynd and high tech sensors that can narrow down a cheater. You are correct. They even track regular customer and how much each one spent. My boss usually get complementary hotel room to stay. Source: ocean eleven |
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Nov 22 2023, 05:07 PM
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Why is this a crime? He can be banned from casions but jail? On what crime?
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Nov 22 2023, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ Nov 22 2023, 04:52 PM) QUOTE(mpyw @ Nov 22 2023, 04:52 PM) QUOTE(MPIK @ Nov 22 2023, 04:53 PM) This is not cheating, it is only using Excel sheet to predict higher chance of winning. Even using Excel sheet, there is still chance of losing money. Section 171 of the Casino Control Act for using a device to count or record cards dealt in a casino game.is a SG law so for SG..is cheating.. |
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Nov 22 2023, 05:08 PM
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Nov 22 2023, 05:08 PM
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Casino win = ok Gamblers win? Sue until the pants off monkeyking918 liked this post
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Nov 22 2023, 05:08 PM
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Yes, they break the rules of using technology to "cheat", the casino can only ban them right? How is it related to any crime?
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Nov 22 2023, 05:08 PM
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Nov 22 2023, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Nov 22 2023, 05:04 PM) I remember bacarat got those cards where you can write down who the winner for each round. Same for roulete. So that is ok but using excel is not? I think their excel formula is to keep track their 8 decks cards output for 2-3 rounds. Then key in the card details with the shuffling calculation to predict the next batch of shuffled cards outcome.Different from roulette |
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Nov 22 2023, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Nov 22 2023, 04:53 PM) This is not cheating, it is only using Excel sheet to predict higher chance of winning. Even using Excel sheet, there is still chance of losing money. If you use the spreadsheet in your head, then I agree with you it's not cheating.If you are sending info to another party to key in to a spreadsheet, and that person relays info back to you at the table.... how is that not cheating? |
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Nov 22 2023, 05:10 PM
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Nov 22 2023, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ Nov 22 2023, 05:52 PM) Because used of technology like bluetooth earphones That consider cheating in casino However, if you can memorise the formula without using excel, you will only be invited politely by the casino security to not come to their casino again, or get get blacklisted Or Non Persona Ex-gratia against you by casino |
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Nov 22 2023, 05:11 PM
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