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post Dec 10 2023, 12:45 AM

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Other than that, the ref today is shit
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post Dec 10 2023, 12:49 AM

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Santa ETH giving early xmas gift to opponent
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post Dec 10 2023, 12:52 AM

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4-0

Dun even have the brain for game management
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post Dec 10 2023, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(Ask.Property @ Dec 10 2023, 12:53 AM)
There are reasons why reguilon cant start at any club he at... Sevilla real madrid spurs... His defending capabilities worse than malacia lol
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well ... ETH have the option to play varane + maguire at the back ...

but he didn't

all for the "philosophy" that doesn't even take shape after so long


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post Dec 13 2023, 10:37 AM

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joke goalkeeping by Onana on that goal

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post Dec 13 2023, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Dec 13 2023, 12:22 PM)
So u guys prepare 7 up? LOL
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I'm prepared to see ppl still back ETH when that happens tongue.gif

maybe klopp will just ask the players to give mercy so that ETH can stay longer in EPL cool2.gif
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post Dec 14 2023, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 13 2023, 04:37 PM)
Jomo tried the method and it doesnt work and even get himself sacked, so is it wrong for ETH try the otherwise? housekeeping all done internally, rubbish dont simply say to outside le... as you know, players must be protected so they can focus solely on playing and training...... gua...... lol
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yet he mentioned bout Sancho to the media dry.gif
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post Dec 14 2023, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(tontolou @ Dec 14 2023, 03:58 PM)
I don't know why some section of the fans thinks what ETH said is out of line. He told them the media the truth, if you don't train well enough, you're not getting in the 1st team.

If SAF was still managing Utd, I can bet players like Sancho, or past players like Lingard will not even be in the 1st team. Probably will be crying everyday kena hairdryer.

I still remembered SAF called out Nani after one of the cup competition, that he costed the game against Chelsea when Utd was leading, then Hazard scored, which went to penalties and loss. Did Nani cry and throw a hissy fit? No, but he was left out for a number of matches after that.
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I didn't say ETH was out of the line

I just responded that ETH didn't handle all the housekeeping internally

As for SAF's hairdryer treatment, this is different era/generation of players, what works back then doesn't mean it will still work now

also I absolutely refuse to compare these bunch of players and managers to SAF's standard

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 14 2023, 04:33 PM)
yea, until now i feel the sancho comment is very normal... JM comment on shaw reli way worse off... i wont support sancho at all in this case... I feel ETH very diplomatic dy... he could have give worse comment like JM but he didnt... he still protecting sancho...

but alot fans feel that SAF way of doing things doesnt work anymore in modern days... but i dont see this at the current man city, liverpool or arsenal squad... players not performing u can gtfo and the manager wont bat an eyelid... lol
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Klopp and Pep are proven winners, and able to deliver results

For Arteta, he has the backing of the board to slowly implement his blueprint and he bought young players that fit to his playing style while removing old players

ETH, at the moment, fulfill none of the above factors

p/s: for the first few season, Arteta's team played with clear football identity while didn't always get result so the fans have the patient to wait for rival fans like us will mock them

but currently ETH's team doesn't even have the clear football identity which is not acceptable to some ppl (including me). You can use injury as valid reason why we're not getting result ... but u can't also use injury as excuse why the team cant play with a clear identity, no team is going to be injury free imo

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post Dec 14 2023, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(tontolou @ Dec 14 2023, 04:56 PM)
are you sure or not, that the fans waited patiently for Arteta? Piers was running a campaign against him, AFTV was running against him, the English media was mocking him.

But you are correct when the club clearly backed Arteta, that's for sure.

Can we see this in this football club? I don't think so, now that their commercials has hit, they would want a quick fix.
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AFTV oso against Wenger last time and they are the more vocal bunch, but it doesn't mean all fans think the same of them

and pls dun bring the joker Piers Morgan into discussion lol

English media always like to report crisis and also to hype up english players


to me, my criteria for a manager, whether ETH or others, is "simple"-

- implement a clear team identity/play style over time
- start players based on merit

result will come when the above 2 points are done properly ...

as for the board, this is ntg any manager can interfere sad.gif

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post Dec 14 2023, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 14 2023, 05:03 PM)
if u ask me, before the injuries towards end of the last season, we are playing the ETH way and there were structure there... but results not satisfactory... comes into this season, the amount of injuries to the squad, ETH totally cant play his way at all... this season how often we play at high-line with the maguire-evans combo, we cant even utilize the onana passing range as we are playing counter attacking again...

and for ETH, he doesnt have the backing of the board like arteta did also... klopp also not proven winner ya from his time in bundesliga, ETH records are better than him in term of titles won before they come to EPL... the board and fans have alot of patience towards klopp during first two seasons but we didnt, we wanna sack every manager the moment they are doing badly... lol
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the first few matches of this season before we had any injuries, we didnt play well as well

Klopp has the backing of fans because they can see the shape / direction of the team play, thats why fans buy his vision
Bundesliga is basically monopoly by Bayern Munich so I won't compare the titles won with Ajax team

I have not called for ETH sacking yet ... I just want to voice out my criticism on his handling of the team so far, in terms of tactics, substitution, etc
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post Dec 14 2023, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 14 2023, 05:11 PM)
i agree that whoever the manager is, he must get 100% support from the board, otherwise changing manager is like putting a plaster on a big leak... the leak will still occur again because the plaster cant hold on to it for long... lol... every managers post SAF is basically functioning as a temporary leak plaster... lol
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Mourinho wanted to sell Martial but board dun wan

now he is still here fcking joke

Mourinho wanted to buy Maguire but board dun wan

then the board bought him anyway for next manager

fcking stupid laugh.gif
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post Dec 14 2023, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(tontolou @ Dec 14 2023, 05:15 PM)
LVG had an identity when he came. It was a snorefest, but it somehow worked. But what happened? Oh right, cause hitting the clubs commercial cause it was 'boring'.

Now? What identity can he create with the team he has? Not even 3 seasons to implement, but wants the manager to get sacked.

What about those players that was brought in and want to  ETH? Will they be the next toxic players and undermine the manager after ETH?
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Aston Villa and Tottenham's new managers were able to implement a clear identity for team play in shorter time and lesser budget

the results may not be sustainable for them due to squad depth but at least the fans know the vision

I do feel that this point itself is a very constructive criticism on ETH

and I have not called for ETH to be sacked

I just feel like ETH has more than reasonable immunity to criticism for what happened to the previous managers
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post Dec 23 2023, 08:49 PM

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Nice pass antony :X
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post Dec 23 2023, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 23 2023, 08:51 PM)
duno wtf he doing. like running all over the place je
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West Ham played much better football now than us lol
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post Dec 23 2023, 09:06 PM

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Garnacho .. should have buried that haihz
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post Dec 23 2023, 09:12 PM

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This Antony hogging ball for too long
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post Dec 23 2023, 10:01 PM

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Goal!

Moyes receive xmas present from Santa ETH

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post Dec 23 2023, 10:08 PM

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2-0! Game over
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post Dec 23 2023, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(aa1985 @ Dec 23 2023, 10:09 PM)
not just game over..it is season over..huhu
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Already over months ago la haha

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